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Removed the following:
Merriam-Webster shows 'endorse' as the preferred US spelling.
What about dividend payments - where/how do they go?
I've removed the pop culture references from this article. Completely unencyclopedic. James A. Stewart 04:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
There is a sub-plot in The Scarlatti Inheritance that revolves around stolen BB's. 70.90.174.101 ( talk) 07:53, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
I came to this page specifically looking for pop culture references, thanks for making me go back to 2007. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.31.121.217 ( talk) 01:12, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Several years later. I think since the real-world use of bearer bonds has all but ended, the interesting part of readers of Wikipedia will be how they are used in popular culture - like an alternate universe in which the goverment became indifferent to money laundering. I propose adding a popular culture references section. patsw ( talk) 22:11, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot 11:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Need to work this definition in the article somehow - I removed it from "History":
Also it should be pointed out that governments issue bearer bonds as debt instruments although this practice has been curtailed for reasons I have tried to explain in the article. Ellsworth ( talk)
I also dropped this section, it belongs in negotiable instrument:
While bearer instruments are rarely created as such, a holder of commercial paper with the holder designated as payee can change the instrument to a bearer certificate by an endorsement. In most of the United States, this has been codified in Article 3, Part 2 of the Uniform Commercial Code.
The proper holder simply signs the back of the instrument and the instrument becomes bearer paper. This is most often done with negotiable instruments such as promissory notes or checks.
Alternately, an individual or company may write a check payable to "Cash" or "Bearer" and create a bearer instrument. Great care should be taken with the security of the instrument, as it is legally almost as good as cash. Though in recent years, third party checks are not being honored by most banks unless the original payee has signed a notarized document stating such. -- Ellsworth ( talk)
It should be pointed out that all British bank notes are,in effect,bearer bonds as they carry a promise to pay the bearer the amount stated on the note.This promise is made in the name of,and signed by, The Chief Cashier of The Bank of England. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.196.125.43 ( talk) 19:27, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
For example, if I write on a bit of paper that I owe $50 to the bearer, is that a bearer bond? What if I write it out as an officer of some organisation? Is there (was there) some statutory requirement regarding the information written on the document (serial numbers, amounts, signatures, exact required wording etc.) Maybe the words, "Bearer Bond" have to be written on the document somewhere?
I have seen the term bearer bond mentioned in books, on television, and in films many times. I have also read the Wikipedia article - yet I am still not sure exactly what one would consist of.
The comment about British Banknotes further up this page goes further than the article to explain what a bearer bond actually is (assuming that it is correct). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.233.172 ( talk) 08:16, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't see a key point in the discussion of bearer bonds. How does one redeem bearer bonds for cash or other assets? 170.213.132.253 ( talk) 18:08, 29 December 2010 (UTC)S. Hart
Bearer bonds were not "banned" in the US in 1982, but the tax code was changed to make their use financially impracticable. 26 USC 103(b) requires municipal bonds to be registered in order for the interest payable to be tax-exempt to the payee, and 26 USC 163(j) requires corporate bonds to be registered in order for the interest paid to be tax-deductible by the obligor. Ellsworth ( talk) 03:57, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
https://nypost.com/2012/11/18/billions-in-bearer-bonds-could-be-lost-due-to-hurricane-sandy-sources/
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-billion-dollar-bond-20160824-story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/1984/08/14/business/elements-in-bearer-bond-issue.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/panama-papers-bearer-shares-1.3525434
-- John Broughton (♫♫) 05:24, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
What's with the unattributed Morgenthaus part of this article? I don't see how that's reliable or belongs in the article. 2601:1C2:1A00:150:F840:3A6E:5BE7:7892 ( talk) 05:14, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
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Removed the following:
Merriam-Webster shows 'endorse' as the preferred US spelling.
What about dividend payments - where/how do they go?
I've removed the pop culture references from this article. Completely unencyclopedic. James A. Stewart 04:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
There is a sub-plot in The Scarlatti Inheritance that revolves around stolen BB's. 70.90.174.101 ( talk) 07:53, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
I came to this page specifically looking for pop culture references, thanks for making me go back to 2007. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.31.121.217 ( talk) 01:12, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Several years later. I think since the real-world use of bearer bonds has all but ended, the interesting part of readers of Wikipedia will be how they are used in popular culture - like an alternate universe in which the goverment became indifferent to money laundering. I propose adding a popular culture references section. patsw ( talk) 22:11, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Image:Pyat rublei 1997.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot 11:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Need to work this definition in the article somehow - I removed it from "History":
Also it should be pointed out that governments issue bearer bonds as debt instruments although this practice has been curtailed for reasons I have tried to explain in the article. Ellsworth ( talk)
I also dropped this section, it belongs in negotiable instrument:
While bearer instruments are rarely created as such, a holder of commercial paper with the holder designated as payee can change the instrument to a bearer certificate by an endorsement. In most of the United States, this has been codified in Article 3, Part 2 of the Uniform Commercial Code.
The proper holder simply signs the back of the instrument and the instrument becomes bearer paper. This is most often done with negotiable instruments such as promissory notes or checks.
Alternately, an individual or company may write a check payable to "Cash" or "Bearer" and create a bearer instrument. Great care should be taken with the security of the instrument, as it is legally almost as good as cash. Though in recent years, third party checks are not being honored by most banks unless the original payee has signed a notarized document stating such. -- Ellsworth ( talk)
It should be pointed out that all British bank notes are,in effect,bearer bonds as they carry a promise to pay the bearer the amount stated on the note.This promise is made in the name of,and signed by, The Chief Cashier of The Bank of England. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.196.125.43 ( talk) 19:27, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
For example, if I write on a bit of paper that I owe $50 to the bearer, is that a bearer bond? What if I write it out as an officer of some organisation? Is there (was there) some statutory requirement regarding the information written on the document (serial numbers, amounts, signatures, exact required wording etc.) Maybe the words, "Bearer Bond" have to be written on the document somewhere?
I have seen the term bearer bond mentioned in books, on television, and in films many times. I have also read the Wikipedia article - yet I am still not sure exactly what one would consist of.
The comment about British Banknotes further up this page goes further than the article to explain what a bearer bond actually is (assuming that it is correct). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.233.172 ( talk) 08:16, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't see a key point in the discussion of bearer bonds. How does one redeem bearer bonds for cash or other assets? 170.213.132.253 ( talk) 18:08, 29 December 2010 (UTC)S. Hart
Bearer bonds were not "banned" in the US in 1982, but the tax code was changed to make their use financially impracticable. 26 USC 103(b) requires municipal bonds to be registered in order for the interest payable to be tax-exempt to the payee, and 26 USC 163(j) requires corporate bonds to be registered in order for the interest paid to be tax-deductible by the obligor. Ellsworth ( talk) 03:57, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
https://nypost.com/2012/11/18/billions-in-bearer-bonds-could-be-lost-due-to-hurricane-sandy-sources/
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-billion-dollar-bond-20160824-story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/1984/08/14/business/elements-in-bearer-bond-issue.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/panama-papers-bearer-shares-1.3525434
-- John Broughton (♫♫) 05:24, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
What's with the unattributed Morgenthaus part of this article? I don't see how that's reliable or belongs in the article. 2601:1C2:1A00:150:F840:3A6E:5BE7:7892 ( talk) 05:14, 11 February 2022 (UTC)