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I remember when these were called "Benny" hats after the character who wore one all the time in the (predominantly) 1970s soap Crossroads. Is "beanie" a coruption of "benny"? Dainamo 20:41, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Is this article about a cloth cap, like a baseball or cyclist's cap without a brim, or is it about a knit hat, like a tuque? It looks mixed-up to me. — Michael Z. 2005-12-6 01:44 Z
A Beanie cap is a rigid little hat with a set of 2 propellers on top of it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.70.8.194 ( talk) 21:10, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
I find this usage of "beanie" to mean a "ski hat" or a "knit cap" to be very odd. I've never heard that usage here in the Pacific Northwest where I grew up; to me, a "beanie" is a skull cap with a propeller. Knit caps are something entirely different from beanies in my dialect. -- ManekiNeko | Talk 08:09, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Here in the American Mid-South, we refer to the cap being described as a "sock cap," a "stocking cap," or more colloquially a "toboggan." A beanie is, to me, similar to a yarmulke, or a brimless baseball cap, with or without propeller! Iamvered 05:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I am from Northwest Georgia, where the dialect and word choices reflect that of the greater Tennessee valley region. I grew up hearing "toboggan" for a brimless knit hat (with or without eye holes). Only once I got a little older did I hear Northerners speak of toboggans as sleds. I have never in my life heard them called "beanies", except perhaps at a department store. More recently, I have used the word "skullcap" because less and less people know what I mean by "toboggan". Jetimms ( talk) 18:58, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
==Did beanies really fall out of favor by the 1950's? In the June 29th, 1949 episode of The Martin and Lewis Show (radio: http://www.archive.org/download/MartinAndLewis_OldTimeRadio/MartinLewisShow490628_013_JohnCarradine.mp3), Jerry gives a propeller beanie to a precocious boy he and his date agreed to babysit. When the boy asks why he should be interested in a beanie hat, Jerry and his date struggle to explain the hats' appeal for kids saying "they're crazy about them." Jerry goes on to say that beanies with propellers "are a novelty, a new gimmick," suggesting that beanies were still very popular and in fashion--at least with kids. I know radio shows are not necessarily experts on their subjects matter, but they tended to reflect truths about popular culture. alainsane ( talk) 04:36, 12 September 2009 (UTC)alainsane
Beanies refer to knit caps in California dialect. The idea it refers to seamed caps is antiquated there. Clearly, there is nothing so large as a "North American" usage of the term. This should be changed. -- 2601:9:4081:7F06:C5F5:1C0A:1B33:ECEA ( talk) 19:54, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
I've seen people play it at campus, but I cannot seem to find any rules for it. Anyone know anyhting about it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.167.220.130 ( talk • contribs) 01:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC).
Definitely not a good idea. This is one of the few specific references for toboggan. I use the term toboggan to call a winter hat; I do not ever call them a beanie. Grace Lane
Yes, there are many synonyms for this type of hat. However, some of them given are unrefrenced or vague, and are removed. They are knit hat, knit cap - refers to method of making rather than type of hat. ski capor, chook - no refrences found on web. boggan - no refrences found, and sounds like slang. warm winter hat - numerous head-warmers are not beanies. Sipple cap, monkey cap - please provide refrences to these reigon-specific terms not easily verified on the internet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.194.98.45 ( talk) 23:13, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
John Tenniel's drawing of Tweedledee & Tweedledum, published in Lewis Carroll's "Through the Looking Glass", in 1872, has the brothers wearing beanies. It would appear that they were already a symbol of some sort, perhaps childish silliness, much early than the 1920's as mentioned in the article. I wonder how far they really go back? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.212.235.154 ( talk) 11:14, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Tweedle-dee & Tweedledum's caps in the picture have brims (like a standard school cap) and so do not fit the description of a 'beanie' in this article. I've removed it. 86.156.119.51 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:13, 20 January 2011 (UTC).
In the early sixties, I attended a Catholic grammar school. All the girls wore little navy blue nylon beanies to church during the week. They matched our uniforms. Other schools with red uniforms had red beanies. That was when women were expected to wear a head cover during Mass. I am surprised to see no one else has mentioned this? 97.83.176.12 ( talk) 07:24, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
I think this section should go if we can't find authoritative sources that indicate these woven hats are regularly called "beanies." It's no more a beanie than a yarmulke or skullcap is... DavidOaks ( talk) 18:37, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
It's ridiculous to say that the beanie is an aspect of grunge/snowboarding fashion. It's a knit cap. No one called it a "beanie".
Actually it's a toque or tuque, but yes, not a beanie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.184.52.157 ( talk) 02:18, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Source it or delete it. 65.30.180.228 ( talk) 22:54, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
A stocking cap is not a beanie. Tbeckett ( talk) 21:43, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Speaking for myself, I couldn't really make out the beanie very well from the first picture.
Primary key ( talk) 14:23, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused about this line "In Canada, New Zealand, Australia, the United States and the United Kingdom, the term "beanie" may also be applied to a knit cap known as a tuque." As far as I know, nobody in Canada calls it a beanie and it is only in Canada that it is ever referred to as a tuque. Canking ( talk) 10:47, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I've tried to make the article a little more clear by moving the picture to the top, added a hatnote to tuque. Also put tuque on the DAB page. Referring to a tuque as a beanie might not be "proper," but it seems pretty common. I also think to put pictures on the DAB page. This is generally against the style guide but I think would help a lot in this case, since they're both types of hats. Thoughts? LRT24 ( talk) 09:21, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
The article does not mention the origin of this significant version, just the geek adaptation of it. There are so many anecdotes that I suggest the normal history should be easy to find and should be inserted before the geek reference.-- John Bessa ( talk) 15:19, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
That's boring, someone else should just put it there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.89.71.42 ( talk) 13:35, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.70.84.80 ( talk) 23:49, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Attention in regard to omission of VTOL flight and hovering capacity inherent to propeller beanie. Rather a critical point to mention on subject, address promptly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.42.104.187 ( talk) 15:42, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
In my opinion 'Beanie' should redirect to Tuque, not vice versa. In fact, it looks like this page used to be Tuque, given that the word 'tuque' is used 23 times to describe the item in question, and 'beanie' a mere 3 times (and one of them, significantly, as the first instance in 'Other names'). Use the name that the people who most use this article of clothing use to refer to it: tuque. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.70.84.80 ( talk) 23:53, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying. I see now that what Americans call a "beanie" (which seems to be like a baseball cap?) is quite different from what Australians for example call a "beanie" (i.e., a tuque).
For the record, I haven't moved/redirected any of these pages, but I did remove the odd redirect from Talk:Beanie to Talk:Beanie (North America) — which, for example, meant being on the Beanie article and clicking on the "Talk" tab and then the "Article" tab ended up on a completely different article!
It should be noted that there is already a disambiguation page at Beanie (disambiguation), so perhaps this needs to be moved to Beanie after the content on that existing page is redistributed appropriately.
My main issues are:
Thoughts? — sroc ( talk) 16:10, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
I suppose what I am proposing, once the content from the current Beanie article is redistributed as User:Reify-tech suggested, is:
Thanks, Reify-tech! I've updated the Beanie (disambiguation) page. I don't have privileges to move over existing pages either, so I think a request is in order. — sroc ( talk) 22:10, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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The Android statue with the beanie is not located at the Googleplex. It is located at a nearby office at 1565 Charleston Ave. In the caption, I suggest "at Googleplex" be changed to "outside a Google office". -- Westwind273 ( talk) 05:34, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Please be aware that Information Masters is maliciously editing this page and adding false information. I do not know the reasons why, but he has repeatedly now added the red and black comment with a term that has no sourcing, and the most recent version is clearly wrong. He may need to be blocked from editing this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.165.224.14 ( talk) 02:16, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
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I remember when these were called "Benny" hats after the character who wore one all the time in the (predominantly) 1970s soap Crossroads. Is "beanie" a coruption of "benny"? Dainamo 20:41, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Is this article about a cloth cap, like a baseball or cyclist's cap without a brim, or is it about a knit hat, like a tuque? It looks mixed-up to me. — Michael Z. 2005-12-6 01:44 Z
A Beanie cap is a rigid little hat with a set of 2 propellers on top of it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.70.8.194 ( talk) 21:10, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
I find this usage of "beanie" to mean a "ski hat" or a "knit cap" to be very odd. I've never heard that usage here in the Pacific Northwest where I grew up; to me, a "beanie" is a skull cap with a propeller. Knit caps are something entirely different from beanies in my dialect. -- ManekiNeko | Talk 08:09, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Here in the American Mid-South, we refer to the cap being described as a "sock cap," a "stocking cap," or more colloquially a "toboggan." A beanie is, to me, similar to a yarmulke, or a brimless baseball cap, with or without propeller! Iamvered 05:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I am from Northwest Georgia, where the dialect and word choices reflect that of the greater Tennessee valley region. I grew up hearing "toboggan" for a brimless knit hat (with or without eye holes). Only once I got a little older did I hear Northerners speak of toboggans as sleds. I have never in my life heard them called "beanies", except perhaps at a department store. More recently, I have used the word "skullcap" because less and less people know what I mean by "toboggan". Jetimms ( talk) 18:58, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
==Did beanies really fall out of favor by the 1950's? In the June 29th, 1949 episode of The Martin and Lewis Show (radio: http://www.archive.org/download/MartinAndLewis_OldTimeRadio/MartinLewisShow490628_013_JohnCarradine.mp3), Jerry gives a propeller beanie to a precocious boy he and his date agreed to babysit. When the boy asks why he should be interested in a beanie hat, Jerry and his date struggle to explain the hats' appeal for kids saying "they're crazy about them." Jerry goes on to say that beanies with propellers "are a novelty, a new gimmick," suggesting that beanies were still very popular and in fashion--at least with kids. I know radio shows are not necessarily experts on their subjects matter, but they tended to reflect truths about popular culture. alainsane ( talk) 04:36, 12 September 2009 (UTC)alainsane
Beanies refer to knit caps in California dialect. The idea it refers to seamed caps is antiquated there. Clearly, there is nothing so large as a "North American" usage of the term. This should be changed. -- 2601:9:4081:7F06:C5F5:1C0A:1B33:ECEA ( talk) 19:54, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
I've seen people play it at campus, but I cannot seem to find any rules for it. Anyone know anyhting about it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.167.220.130 ( talk • contribs) 01:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC).
Definitely not a good idea. This is one of the few specific references for toboggan. I use the term toboggan to call a winter hat; I do not ever call them a beanie. Grace Lane
Yes, there are many synonyms for this type of hat. However, some of them given are unrefrenced or vague, and are removed. They are knit hat, knit cap - refers to method of making rather than type of hat. ski capor, chook - no refrences found on web. boggan - no refrences found, and sounds like slang. warm winter hat - numerous head-warmers are not beanies. Sipple cap, monkey cap - please provide refrences to these reigon-specific terms not easily verified on the internet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.194.98.45 ( talk) 23:13, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
John Tenniel's drawing of Tweedledee & Tweedledum, published in Lewis Carroll's "Through the Looking Glass", in 1872, has the brothers wearing beanies. It would appear that they were already a symbol of some sort, perhaps childish silliness, much early than the 1920's as mentioned in the article. I wonder how far they really go back? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.212.235.154 ( talk) 11:14, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Tweedle-dee & Tweedledum's caps in the picture have brims (like a standard school cap) and so do not fit the description of a 'beanie' in this article. I've removed it. 86.156.119.51 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:13, 20 January 2011 (UTC).
In the early sixties, I attended a Catholic grammar school. All the girls wore little navy blue nylon beanies to church during the week. They matched our uniforms. Other schools with red uniforms had red beanies. That was when women were expected to wear a head cover during Mass. I am surprised to see no one else has mentioned this? 97.83.176.12 ( talk) 07:24, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
I think this section should go if we can't find authoritative sources that indicate these woven hats are regularly called "beanies." It's no more a beanie than a yarmulke or skullcap is... DavidOaks ( talk) 18:37, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
It's ridiculous to say that the beanie is an aspect of grunge/snowboarding fashion. It's a knit cap. No one called it a "beanie".
Actually it's a toque or tuque, but yes, not a beanie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.184.52.157 ( talk) 02:18, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Source it or delete it. 65.30.180.228 ( talk) 22:54, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
A stocking cap is not a beanie. Tbeckett ( talk) 21:43, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Speaking for myself, I couldn't really make out the beanie very well from the first picture.
Primary key ( talk) 14:23, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused about this line "In Canada, New Zealand, Australia, the United States and the United Kingdom, the term "beanie" may also be applied to a knit cap known as a tuque." As far as I know, nobody in Canada calls it a beanie and it is only in Canada that it is ever referred to as a tuque. Canking ( talk) 10:47, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I've tried to make the article a little more clear by moving the picture to the top, added a hatnote to tuque. Also put tuque on the DAB page. Referring to a tuque as a beanie might not be "proper," but it seems pretty common. I also think to put pictures on the DAB page. This is generally against the style guide but I think would help a lot in this case, since they're both types of hats. Thoughts? LRT24 ( talk) 09:21, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
The article does not mention the origin of this significant version, just the geek adaptation of it. There are so many anecdotes that I suggest the normal history should be easy to find and should be inserted before the geek reference.-- John Bessa ( talk) 15:19, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
That's boring, someone else should just put it there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.89.71.42 ( talk) 13:35, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.70.84.80 ( talk) 23:49, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Attention in regard to omission of VTOL flight and hovering capacity inherent to propeller beanie. Rather a critical point to mention on subject, address promptly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.42.104.187 ( talk) 15:42, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
In my opinion 'Beanie' should redirect to Tuque, not vice versa. In fact, it looks like this page used to be Tuque, given that the word 'tuque' is used 23 times to describe the item in question, and 'beanie' a mere 3 times (and one of them, significantly, as the first instance in 'Other names'). Use the name that the people who most use this article of clothing use to refer to it: tuque. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.70.84.80 ( talk) 23:53, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying. I see now that what Americans call a "beanie" (which seems to be like a baseball cap?) is quite different from what Australians for example call a "beanie" (i.e., a tuque).
For the record, I haven't moved/redirected any of these pages, but I did remove the odd redirect from Talk:Beanie to Talk:Beanie (North America) — which, for example, meant being on the Beanie article and clicking on the "Talk" tab and then the "Article" tab ended up on a completely different article!
It should be noted that there is already a disambiguation page at Beanie (disambiguation), so perhaps this needs to be moved to Beanie after the content on that existing page is redistributed appropriately.
My main issues are:
Thoughts? — sroc ( talk) 16:10, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
I suppose what I am proposing, once the content from the current Beanie article is redistributed as User:Reify-tech suggested, is:
Thanks, Reify-tech! I've updated the Beanie (disambiguation) page. I don't have privileges to move over existing pages either, so I think a request is in order. — sroc ( talk) 22:10, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
I have requested the following moves:
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The Android statue with the beanie is not located at the Googleplex. It is located at a nearby office at 1565 Charleston Ave. In the caption, I suggest "at Googleplex" be changed to "outside a Google office". -- Westwind273 ( talk) 05:34, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Please be aware that Information Masters is maliciously editing this page and adding false information. I do not know the reasons why, but he has repeatedly now added the red and black comment with a term that has no sourcing, and the most recent version is clearly wrong. He may need to be blocked from editing this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.165.224.14 ( talk) 02:16, 25 August 2020 (UTC)