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I'll take this review, though I might not have most of the comments up till the weekend. On first look the article looks to be good quality, so it shouldn't be a terribly long review.
Pi.1415926535 (
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18:41, 22 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Infobox and lede
My chief complaint with the infobox is that it's very long - on my screen, it reaches well into the history section. Not all of my suggestions here are essential, but shortening the infobox a bit should be a goal.
Five lines of text for the location is a lot. I would recommend using a street address (or reducing the number of streets listed), and moving Bayswater to the |borough= field along with Western Australia.
For platforms, "2 (1 island)" is a bit confusing. Are both sides of that single island counted as separate "platform"s? I would definitely link
island platform.
Are counts of parking spots and bicycle spots available?
The number of parking spots listed
here seems to be from before the upgrade commenced. There is less than 100 bays there now, but I have no reference which says the actual number. No reference that says the number of bicycle bays either.
Steelkamp (
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09:30, 26 September 2021 (UTC)reply
The text seems to imply that the station is only partially accessible, but the infobox just says "yes".
Are daily passenger counts (rather than annual) available? Daily counts are much easier to wrap one's head around.
No. It was quite hard to find even the yearly count. Transperth/the government does not publish individual station patronages. Only reason we even have the yearly patronage from 2013-14 is that a question was asked by a politican during
question time in parliament.
Steelkamp (
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09:30, 26 September 2021 (UTC)reply
The Morley–Ellenbrook line appears to be in active construction - it should go under the same subheader as the Airport line then, no?
I don't see a need to mention the adjacent stations in the lede; they don't have much relevant to the station itself, only for navigation purposes in the infobox.
this time to the south of the station as an elevated station is awkwardly phrased. Perhaps something like A reconstruction of the station began in January 2021 as part of the state government's Metronet project, with the new station located slightly to the south.
I don't see a need to mention the complaints during construction - those occur with any construction project, and don't seem noteworthy enough for the lede.
Reword to The station is planned to become a junction station again when the Airport railway line opens in 2022; the Morley–Ellenbrook railway line will also split at Bayswater when it opens in 2024. or something similar.
Several sentences (The railway line reduced... and This advertisement was also... imply that there was stopping service to Bayswater before 1896. Is this correct?
Given that Wikipedia is explicitly not a travel guide, I don't think including stop numbers is necessary here. Both the rail and bus stop tables seem like more detail than needed. Something like Route 48, 998, and 999 use bus stops on Coode Street; route 48 diversions and route 91 (rail replacement service) use stops on Railway Parade should be sufficient.
I couldn't remove stop numbers from the platforms table, as that uses a specific template which would have to be changed. I removed the bus routes table and added the text you suggested to the paragraph.
Steelkamp (
talk)
02:29, 29 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Reword to ...with bus interchanges – Midland and Bassendean – are at capacity, it is...
Most references are live links. Unless you need a specific version of a page that has or is likely to change, preemptive archiving just adds to the page size and scroll length. (You can always archive all the links using IAbot, and then self-revert, to ensure they're all saved should they go offline.
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that the platform shelters in the Bayswater railway station, Perth redevelopment concept design were criticised for looking like a
trestle table? Source:
[1] "Angry Bayswater residents are calling for a redesign of the suburb's soon-to-be-built train station after the plans were mocked on social media over their resemblance to a Bunnings trestle table."
A fact from Bayswater railway station, Perth appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 26 October 2021 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Bayswater railway station, Perth is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of
Australia and
Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the
project page.AustraliaWikipedia:WikiProject AustraliaTemplate:WikiProject AustraliaAustralia articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Trains, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to
rail transport on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can visit the
project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the
discussion. See also:
WikiProject Trains to do list and the
Trains Portal.TrainsWikipedia:WikiProject TrainsTemplate:WikiProject Trainsrail transport articles
I'll take this review, though I might not have most of the comments up till the weekend. On first look the article looks to be good quality, so it shouldn't be a terribly long review.
Pi.1415926535 (
talk)
18:41, 22 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Infobox and lede
My chief complaint with the infobox is that it's very long - on my screen, it reaches well into the history section. Not all of my suggestions here are essential, but shortening the infobox a bit should be a goal.
Five lines of text for the location is a lot. I would recommend using a street address (or reducing the number of streets listed), and moving Bayswater to the |borough= field along with Western Australia.
For platforms, "2 (1 island)" is a bit confusing. Are both sides of that single island counted as separate "platform"s? I would definitely link
island platform.
Are counts of parking spots and bicycle spots available?
The number of parking spots listed
here seems to be from before the upgrade commenced. There is less than 100 bays there now, but I have no reference which says the actual number. No reference that says the number of bicycle bays either.
Steelkamp (
talk)
09:30, 26 September 2021 (UTC)reply
The text seems to imply that the station is only partially accessible, but the infobox just says "yes".
Are daily passenger counts (rather than annual) available? Daily counts are much easier to wrap one's head around.
No. It was quite hard to find even the yearly count. Transperth/the government does not publish individual station patronages. Only reason we even have the yearly patronage from 2013-14 is that a question was asked by a politican during
question time in parliament.
Steelkamp (
talk)
09:30, 26 September 2021 (UTC)reply
The Morley–Ellenbrook line appears to be in active construction - it should go under the same subheader as the Airport line then, no?
I don't see a need to mention the adjacent stations in the lede; they don't have much relevant to the station itself, only for navigation purposes in the infobox.
this time to the south of the station as an elevated station is awkwardly phrased. Perhaps something like A reconstruction of the station began in January 2021 as part of the state government's Metronet project, with the new station located slightly to the south.
I don't see a need to mention the complaints during construction - those occur with any construction project, and don't seem noteworthy enough for the lede.
Reword to The station is planned to become a junction station again when the Airport railway line opens in 2022; the Morley–Ellenbrook railway line will also split at Bayswater when it opens in 2024. or something similar.
Several sentences (The railway line reduced... and This advertisement was also... imply that there was stopping service to Bayswater before 1896. Is this correct?
Given that Wikipedia is explicitly not a travel guide, I don't think including stop numbers is necessary here. Both the rail and bus stop tables seem like more detail than needed. Something like Route 48, 998, and 999 use bus stops on Coode Street; route 48 diversions and route 91 (rail replacement service) use stops on Railway Parade should be sufficient.
I couldn't remove stop numbers from the platforms table, as that uses a specific template which would have to be changed. I removed the bus routes table and added the text you suggested to the paragraph.
Steelkamp (
talk)
02:29, 29 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Reword to ...with bus interchanges – Midland and Bassendean – are at capacity, it is...
Most references are live links. Unless you need a specific version of a page that has or is likely to change, preemptive archiving just adds to the page size and scroll length. (You can always archive all the links using IAbot, and then self-revert, to ensure they're all saved should they go offline.
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that the platform shelters in the Bayswater railway station, Perth redevelopment concept design were criticised for looking like a
trestle table? Source:
[1] "Angry Bayswater residents are calling for a redesign of the suburb's soon-to-be-built train station after the plans were mocked on social media over their resemblance to a Bunnings trestle table."