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This article was a direct copy/paste from the BART police homepage. I did a lot of editing, adding, and moving around of the information, but more info should definitely be added to make this a more informative article rather than just repeated information from their original website. I also wikified a bunch of links and updated the infobox DLPanther 21:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
BART's disruption of cell service happened and a riot did not, the disruption didn't necessarily stop the riot as the text of the page suggests. This should be edited to reflect this. Also the potential illegality of the action might be worth mentioning. Motor.on ( talk) 06:09, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
To demonstrate to Luciferwildcat that it is appropriate to remove his text "BART has not published any evidence to support the claim that the protest planned for August 11 constituted a danger to anyone", I present this image from the event. http://www.lee.org/blog/2011/09/23/concerning-bart-protests/ -- Gadlen ( talk) 04:46, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
LuciferWildCat, have fun in your fantasy world. You have won your idiotic war against me. Nearly every sentence you wrote is bunk, but you obviously have more time on your hands and more bats in your belfry than I. -- Gadlen ( talk) 01:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Luciferwildcat, why did you remove my request for a citation of your "worldwide condemnation" post? "Condemnation" is a very strong word. If you can find any reasonable non-San Francisco source that, as you said, "garnered worldwide condemnation of BART", then fine. But I haven't found any. It'd be even more legitimate if you found an article more than a month after the event happened, so that it is clear it is looked at with the eyes of history.-- Gadlen ( talk) 01:38, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Right, I did not deliberatelly remove any particular citation. Rather I rolled back all your edits to a previous version due to the fact that you clear cut sections of the article with a particular POV in mind, including statements that were sourced reliably, that you simply disagreed with on a personal basis. Since the majority of your edits were not helpful, I could only restore the article to previous version. I highly suggest you don't make similar edits. Edits should be done as if with a scalpel especially if there is controversy, disagreement, or a editor such as yourself that is unfamiliar with Wikipedia policy. This is not Facebook nor is it a social network of any sort that a fan, enemy, or employee of BART may have free reign over. Part of what Wikipedia does is remain neutral and report the good, bad, exciting, boring, and everything else for the sake of posterity. As to your request of a "non San Francisco source", simply NO. It doesn't matter where the reliable source comes from, we don't need a source from Mali or France. The San Francisco Chronicle, SF Weekly, Oakland Tribune, San Jose Mercury News, even the East Bay Express, Bayview Newspaper, and LGBT papers are reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Indepdendent means they are not writing about themselves, so the Chronicle cannot be considered a reliable source about itself or it's parent company for example, but every other imaginable subject such as BART or any other local affair is perfectly okay. It is unreasonable to only include information that has sources after an event, and we are an encyclopedia, we cover history, we in fact hold "old news" to higher esteem, so again, NO. LuciferWildCat ( talk) 16:32, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
LuciferWildCat, have fun in your fantasy world. You have won your idiotic war against me. Nearly every sentence you wrote is bunk, but you obviously have more time on your hands and more bats in your belfry than I. -- Gadlen ( talk) 01:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Luciferwildcat, you changed my edit to "The cell phone shutdown has generated even more negative publicity than has been generated by Charles Hill's shooting." That is poor English. Please set it back.-- Gadlen ( talk) 01:38, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
I did not write that, if you think it can be phrased better please suggest that here. I don't see how it is poor English at all. However over time people will fix grammar and tense issues. The only change I would make is to make it past tense as this has already occured, however if it is a quote and states kat amerikka bARt Charl3$ H1!!, we would keep it as originally written, I hope this clarifies things. LuciferWildCat ( talk) 16:35, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
LuciferWildCat, have fun in your fantasy world. You have won your idiotic war against me. Nearly every sentence you wrote is bunk, but you obviously have more time on your hands and more bats in your belfry than I. -- Gadlen ( talk) 01:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Luciferwildcat, you removed my reference to BART's cell service interruption policy. This is integral to the story of the cell phone shutdown. Please put it back.-- Gadlen ( talk) 01:38, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
LuciferWildCat, have fun in your fantasy world. You have won your idiotic war against me. Nearly every sentence you wrote is bunk, but you obviously have more time on your hands and more bats in your belfry than I. --
Gadlen (
talk) 01:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
I note that LuciferWildCat has once again removed valid, relevant, impartial edits here by another editor and replaced them with his own incorrect content. I don't know how to proceed with this except to note this poor behavior here. -- Gadlen ( talk) 17:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
The history section is copy&paste from the BART website - I doubt it was the other way round. Ds77 ( talk) 02:54, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
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This article was a direct copy/paste from the BART police homepage. I did a lot of editing, adding, and moving around of the information, but more info should definitely be added to make this a more informative article rather than just repeated information from their original website. I also wikified a bunch of links and updated the infobox DLPanther 21:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
BART's disruption of cell service happened and a riot did not, the disruption didn't necessarily stop the riot as the text of the page suggests. This should be edited to reflect this. Also the potential illegality of the action might be worth mentioning. Motor.on ( talk) 06:09, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
To demonstrate to Luciferwildcat that it is appropriate to remove his text "BART has not published any evidence to support the claim that the protest planned for August 11 constituted a danger to anyone", I present this image from the event. http://www.lee.org/blog/2011/09/23/concerning-bart-protests/ -- Gadlen ( talk) 04:46, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
LuciferWildCat, have fun in your fantasy world. You have won your idiotic war against me. Nearly every sentence you wrote is bunk, but you obviously have more time on your hands and more bats in your belfry than I. -- Gadlen ( talk) 01:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Luciferwildcat, why did you remove my request for a citation of your "worldwide condemnation" post? "Condemnation" is a very strong word. If you can find any reasonable non-San Francisco source that, as you said, "garnered worldwide condemnation of BART", then fine. But I haven't found any. It'd be even more legitimate if you found an article more than a month after the event happened, so that it is clear it is looked at with the eyes of history.-- Gadlen ( talk) 01:38, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Right, I did not deliberatelly remove any particular citation. Rather I rolled back all your edits to a previous version due to the fact that you clear cut sections of the article with a particular POV in mind, including statements that were sourced reliably, that you simply disagreed with on a personal basis. Since the majority of your edits were not helpful, I could only restore the article to previous version. I highly suggest you don't make similar edits. Edits should be done as if with a scalpel especially if there is controversy, disagreement, or a editor such as yourself that is unfamiliar with Wikipedia policy. This is not Facebook nor is it a social network of any sort that a fan, enemy, or employee of BART may have free reign over. Part of what Wikipedia does is remain neutral and report the good, bad, exciting, boring, and everything else for the sake of posterity. As to your request of a "non San Francisco source", simply NO. It doesn't matter where the reliable source comes from, we don't need a source from Mali or France. The San Francisco Chronicle, SF Weekly, Oakland Tribune, San Jose Mercury News, even the East Bay Express, Bayview Newspaper, and LGBT papers are reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Indepdendent means they are not writing about themselves, so the Chronicle cannot be considered a reliable source about itself or it's parent company for example, but every other imaginable subject such as BART or any other local affair is perfectly okay. It is unreasonable to only include information that has sources after an event, and we are an encyclopedia, we cover history, we in fact hold "old news" to higher esteem, so again, NO. LuciferWildCat ( talk) 16:32, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
LuciferWildCat, have fun in your fantasy world. You have won your idiotic war against me. Nearly every sentence you wrote is bunk, but you obviously have more time on your hands and more bats in your belfry than I. -- Gadlen ( talk) 01:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Luciferwildcat, you changed my edit to "The cell phone shutdown has generated even more negative publicity than has been generated by Charles Hill's shooting." That is poor English. Please set it back.-- Gadlen ( talk) 01:38, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
I did not write that, if you think it can be phrased better please suggest that here. I don't see how it is poor English at all. However over time people will fix grammar and tense issues. The only change I would make is to make it past tense as this has already occured, however if it is a quote and states kat amerikka bARt Charl3$ H1!!, we would keep it as originally written, I hope this clarifies things. LuciferWildCat ( talk) 16:35, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
LuciferWildCat, have fun in your fantasy world. You have won your idiotic war against me. Nearly every sentence you wrote is bunk, but you obviously have more time on your hands and more bats in your belfry than I. -- Gadlen ( talk) 01:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Luciferwildcat, you removed my reference to BART's cell service interruption policy. This is integral to the story of the cell phone shutdown. Please put it back.-- Gadlen ( talk) 01:38, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
LuciferWildCat, have fun in your fantasy world. You have won your idiotic war against me. Nearly every sentence you wrote is bunk, but you obviously have more time on your hands and more bats in your belfry than I. --
Gadlen (
talk) 01:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
I note that LuciferWildCat has once again removed valid, relevant, impartial edits here by another editor and replaced them with his own incorrect content. I don't know how to proceed with this except to note this poor behavior here. -- Gadlen ( talk) 17:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
The history section is copy&paste from the BART website - I doubt it was the other way round. Ds77 ( talk) 02:54, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
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