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As it has been released in news outlets, Bavar 373 was unveiled in an official ceremony today (August 22nd, 2019). It's extremely easy to verify that it's a valid edit, yet for unknown reasons my edit was rejected without leaving a comment about why my edit was rejected. Could someone please enlighten me about why a valid edit adding new relevant information to the topic should be rejected?
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These are not sources to make claim directly that Russia is using the system, they are quoting "anonymous sources from the Hashd", the articles also have flaws and says B-373 is similar to the S-300 when they are not but in capabilities only, the whole claim and article is nonsensical but it is not the question there since they are considered as "acceptable outlets", this article does not permit to claim directly that Russia is using it or that Iran sent one to Russia, not even intelligence claims, photos or any source which could make claim Russia is using it, but only an anonymous source who told TheGuardian.
The missiles used by B-373 are not S-300 missiles, this is not an "analogue to the S-300", Iran only talked about capabilities, the claim is supported by no fact or sources by anonymous sources from the Hashd quoting they are "happy to kill Americans" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB04:133:8000:2404:51F7:DB03:66E3 ( talk) 16:05, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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I think we should just mention the Russia thing in the "History" section of the article like it is and remove Russia from "operators" section, Russia in operators is a little misleading, the sources are very vague and are based on anonymous sources only, i do not want to judge but it seems like a propaganda piece with many errors in it such as the missiles and the system, even TheGuardian is a respectable outlet and accepted here as a source, when it comes to Iran or Russia/China they've did many articles like this one before, but that's not the question here.
This is not a "source", but very vague reporting with speculation and based only from an Iraqi militia anonymous source.
Or at least making a subsection "Reported operators" so it gets less misleading. Russia should be in the operator section only if we get a direct, credible source or photos/usage in Ukraine, this is just reporting and speculation here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsunet ( talk • contribs) 17:41, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
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The range and the AESA radar are not fakes, 3rd Khordad uses an AESA radar that has been tested, not pulse dopplers, Bavar uses a variant of it
The problem with this article is that we 100% need western sources to tell us what Iran made instead of adding "claimed by Iran" and not removing the sources or citing them as "unreliable" because they are from Iran, this is bad faith and hypocrisy 2A04:CEC0:100E:81F5:9A31:CB06:1B7:BE36 ( talk) 23:35, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
"One of the radars used in Bavar-373 is Meraj-4 (Ascension), a phased array radar with range of 450 km"
Please note this is the range of detection and not acquisition or fire range, this quote can be confusing, 450km is normal for most radars, acquisition should be 100-300km maximum as it is already mentionned
Instead
"One of the radars used in Bavar-373 is Meraj-4 (Ascension), a phased array radar with a claimed detection range of 450km"
And the dubious template could be removed with it, it is more confusing than dubious 2A01:CB04:60D:EA00:2538:53D2:154B:20C6 ( talk) 21:58, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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As it has been released in news outlets, Bavar 373 was unveiled in an official ceremony today (August 22nd, 2019). It's extremely easy to verify that it's a valid edit, yet for unknown reasons my edit was rejected without leaving a comment about why my edit was rejected. Could someone please enlighten me about why a valid edit adding new relevant information to the topic should be rejected?
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These are not sources to make claim directly that Russia is using the system, they are quoting "anonymous sources from the Hashd", the articles also have flaws and says B-373 is similar to the S-300 when they are not but in capabilities only, the whole claim and article is nonsensical but it is not the question there since they are considered as "acceptable outlets", this article does not permit to claim directly that Russia is using it or that Iran sent one to Russia, not even intelligence claims, photos or any source which could make claim Russia is using it, but only an anonymous source who told TheGuardian.
The missiles used by B-373 are not S-300 missiles, this is not an "analogue to the S-300", Iran only talked about capabilities, the claim is supported by no fact or sources by anonymous sources from the Hashd quoting they are "happy to kill Americans" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB04:133:8000:2404:51F7:DB03:66E3 ( talk) 16:05, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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I think we should just mention the Russia thing in the "History" section of the article like it is and remove Russia from "operators" section, Russia in operators is a little misleading, the sources are very vague and are based on anonymous sources only, i do not want to judge but it seems like a propaganda piece with many errors in it such as the missiles and the system, even TheGuardian is a respectable outlet and accepted here as a source, when it comes to Iran or Russia/China they've did many articles like this one before, but that's not the question here.
This is not a "source", but very vague reporting with speculation and based only from an Iraqi militia anonymous source.
Or at least making a subsection "Reported operators" so it gets less misleading. Russia should be in the operator section only if we get a direct, credible source or photos/usage in Ukraine, this is just reporting and speculation here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsunet ( talk • contribs) 17:41, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
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The range and the AESA radar are not fakes, 3rd Khordad uses an AESA radar that has been tested, not pulse dopplers, Bavar uses a variant of it
The problem with this article is that we 100% need western sources to tell us what Iran made instead of adding "claimed by Iran" and not removing the sources or citing them as "unreliable" because they are from Iran, this is bad faith and hypocrisy 2A04:CEC0:100E:81F5:9A31:CB06:1B7:BE36 ( talk) 23:35, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
"One of the radars used in Bavar-373 is Meraj-4 (Ascension), a phased array radar with range of 450 km"
Please note this is the range of detection and not acquisition or fire range, this quote can be confusing, 450km is normal for most radars, acquisition should be 100-300km maximum as it is already mentionned
Instead
"One of the radars used in Bavar-373 is Meraj-4 (Ascension), a phased array radar with a claimed detection range of 450km"
And the dubious template could be removed with it, it is more confusing than dubious 2A01:CB04:60D:EA00:2538:53D2:154B:20C6 ( talk) 21:58, 15 May 2024 (UTC)