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there is no reoord of buddhabhadra teaching the his disciple martial arts so please quit trying to make the association. records state that his disciples were probably retired soldiers. Kennethtennyson 02:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Dhyana essentially involves exercises which would make one breathless and tired if one has not previously been associated with Yoga.
Source please.
JFD
02:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Not that I have used Dhyana exercises in my edits but Antonov V.V. — Spiritual Practices (Training Aid). “Polus”, St.Petersburg, 1998 should give be a start. Prescriptive and Descriptive Approaches to the Threefold Discipline: A Response to Professor Ishigami by Dr. Carl Bielefeldt. Stanford University would follow closely. [1] Freedom skies Send a message to Freedom skies 11:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
That article says nothing about dhyana entailing vigorous exercise of the type you describe.
JFD
13:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
It is inaccurate to refer to Buddhabhadra as a "patriarch".
In Zen Buddhism, "patriarch" is a term with a very specific meaning which does not apply to Buddhabhadra.
Those who have no idea what they're talking about really should defer to those who are actually knowledgeable about Zen Buddhism and its history and are able to refer to third-party published sources rather than websites.
JFD
15:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
It is inaccurate to refer to Buddhabhadra as a "patriarch".
In Zen Buddhism, "patriarch" is a term with a very specific meaning which does not apply to Buddhabhadra.
Those who have no idea what they're talking about really should defer to those who are actually knowledgeable about Zen Buddhism and its history and are able to refer to third-party published sources rather than websites.
Now. Source please. Freedom skies Send a message to Freedom skies 07:12, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I refer you to either D.T. Suzuki's or Heinrich Dumoulin's works on Zen Buddhism.
Both explain the institution of the patriarchal lineage within Zen Buddhism.
JFD
14:14, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
--- i agree with above. dhyana has nothing to do with physical exercises. Kennethtennyson 00:16, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
The exercises are taxing for a newcomer, as is every exercise. The kind of exercises associated with Dyana are many. take a look
I agree with above. dhyana has nothing to do with physical exercises.
Please Kenny. Again you speak about things you have no idea about.
I refer you to either D.T. Suzuki's or Heinrich Dumoulin's works on Zen Buddhism.
Mention the pages where "In Zen Buddhism, "patriarch" is a term with a very specific meaning which does not apply to Buddhabhadra." is mentioned in either D.T. Suzuki's or Heinrich Dumoulin's works as well, JFD.
Freedom skies 18:26, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Why are there two Buddhabhadra articles when they were the same person? Chinese records show that the Shaolin temple was built for Buddhabhadra to translate Buddhist texts so it's clear that the founder and translator were one and the same. Morinae ( talk) 09:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
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there is no reoord of buddhabhadra teaching the his disciple martial arts so please quit trying to make the association. records state that his disciples were probably retired soldiers. Kennethtennyson 02:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Dhyana essentially involves exercises which would make one breathless and tired if one has not previously been associated with Yoga.
Source please.
JFD
02:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Not that I have used Dhyana exercises in my edits but Antonov V.V. — Spiritual Practices (Training Aid). “Polus”, St.Petersburg, 1998 should give be a start. Prescriptive and Descriptive Approaches to the Threefold Discipline: A Response to Professor Ishigami by Dr. Carl Bielefeldt. Stanford University would follow closely. [1] Freedom skies Send a message to Freedom skies 11:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
That article says nothing about dhyana entailing vigorous exercise of the type you describe.
JFD
13:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
It is inaccurate to refer to Buddhabhadra as a "patriarch".
In Zen Buddhism, "patriarch" is a term with a very specific meaning which does not apply to Buddhabhadra.
Those who have no idea what they're talking about really should defer to those who are actually knowledgeable about Zen Buddhism and its history and are able to refer to third-party published sources rather than websites.
JFD
15:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
It is inaccurate to refer to Buddhabhadra as a "patriarch".
In Zen Buddhism, "patriarch" is a term with a very specific meaning which does not apply to Buddhabhadra.
Those who have no idea what they're talking about really should defer to those who are actually knowledgeable about Zen Buddhism and its history and are able to refer to third-party published sources rather than websites.
Now. Source please. Freedom skies Send a message to Freedom skies 07:12, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I refer you to either D.T. Suzuki's or Heinrich Dumoulin's works on Zen Buddhism.
Both explain the institution of the patriarchal lineage within Zen Buddhism.
JFD
14:14, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
--- i agree with above. dhyana has nothing to do with physical exercises. Kennethtennyson 00:16, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
The exercises are taxing for a newcomer, as is every exercise. The kind of exercises associated with Dyana are many. take a look
I agree with above. dhyana has nothing to do with physical exercises.
Please Kenny. Again you speak about things you have no idea about.
I refer you to either D.T. Suzuki's or Heinrich Dumoulin's works on Zen Buddhism.
Mention the pages where "In Zen Buddhism, "patriarch" is a term with a very specific meaning which does not apply to Buddhabhadra." is mentioned in either D.T. Suzuki's or Heinrich Dumoulin's works as well, JFD.
Freedom skies 18:26, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Why are there two Buddhabhadra articles when they were the same person? Chinese records show that the Shaolin temple was built for Buddhabhadra to translate Buddhist texts so it's clear that the founder and translator were one and the same. Morinae ( talk) 09:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)