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Shouldn't there be some sort of spoiler warning? I read this page after watching the miniseries and season one and found a few spoilers. Wclapier 05:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
During a showing of new TV series by the m,ajor networks to the TV media in June, 2003. Bonnie Hammer the President of the Sci-Fi Channel was there to show off the mini-series along with the show's star Edward James Olmos. Bonnie Hammer stated that this new version that fans of the original 1978 series will like this new version. Edward James Olmos immediately stepped up and stated, "Actually fans of the original series will hate this new version they are better off buying the DVDs that are coming out." Reporters that attended the news conference there said that Bonnie Hammer had a shocked looked on her face. Some that were closer to the stage reported heard Bonnie Hammer saying something to the effect, "oh, kill me now." As the news conference kept going everytime Bonnie Hammer said something positive about the new version, Edward Olmos kept saying something negative saying the original fans shouldn't watch it.
This occurred to me after seeing the mini-series. The "12 tribes of Kobol" struck me as being somewhat analogous to the "12 tribes of Israel." When they mentioned the "13th tribe" that went to Earth, it also reminded me of Mormonism. Don't the Mormons believe that there was a 13th tribe of Israel that crossed the ocean and settled in North America? If so, is this parallel only coincidence? I never saw the original series, did it contain this same mythology? In any case, is it even worth mentioning in the article? -- Bjsiders 15:50, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Mormons believe that there were 12 tribes of Israel. However, they believe that the "Ten Lost Tribes of Israel" settled in North America. The creator of the original series, Glen A. Larson, is Mormon so this parallel is probably not a coincidence. KitHutch 15:59, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
note: These parallels are explored in more detail at Battlestar Galactica and Mormonism. VigilancePrime 01:29, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
The Quorum of the 12 (a political body in BSG) looks like a direct reference to the Mormon group of the same name. Wclapier 05:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
This is the text of the original press release regarding the announcement of the additional 6 episodes.
"Battlestar Galactica, the update of the classic 1979 television series that is at the center of a war between the studio that produces it and the fans who can't wait for its January, 2005 launch on the US Sci Fi Channel, has been given an extra six-episode pickup. This will bring the total for season one to 19 episodes.
While this doesn't guarantee a second season, it is seen as a good sign. Executive producer David Eick told Sci Fi Magazine, "Just after I finished exhaling, it'll be time to jump right back into it".
The success of the series during its run on the Sky One channel in the UK has been cited as the primary reason to order more episodes before the series has even premiered in the US. The new series has generated a high amount of interest and has been one of the most active downloads in the various file trading groups, something that has worried Galactica's producer, Universal Studios, to the point of taking action against fans who would try to see the series early. This early indicator of the series' success would seem to torpedo some of the studio's own arguments against the file traders that included the possibility of diminished ratings and loss of revenue for the series. Battlestar Galactica will premiere on the US Sci Fi Channel on January 14th, 2005."
Clearly states the additional episodes will be added to the end of series one, and not become part of series two.
I think the opening text before each episode should be removed as it is misleading. It changes throughout the series, and while it is still composed of mainly the same lines, some are added or removed depending on the needs of the individual episode.
Ben W Bell 09:42, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
The opening vocals in the British version are apparently from Hindu sources (the Gayatri Mantra), not Celtic. The words are:
AUM BHOOR BHUWAH SWAHA, TAT SAVITUR VARENYAM BHARGO DEVASAYA DHEEMAHI DHIYO YO NAHA PRACHODAYAT
Translation:
Oh God! Thou art the Giver of Life, Remover of pain and sorrow, The Bestower of happiness, Oh! Creator of the Universe, May we receive thy supreme sin-destroying light, May Thou guide our intellect in the right direction.
from: http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=114327 and: http://www.syfyportal.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2708
As of Season 2, unless I'm misremembering, the US opening titles match the UK opening titles. The three episodes broadcast on NBC also used the UK titles, including the population count.
Cheers,
S
Why is there such a debate on whether or not the original Colonel Tigh was black or not. Tigh was most definitely black, he was played by Terry Carter in the original movie and TV series, and Terry Carter is most definitely black. Check halfway down this page for a photo from the series. http://www.blast.net/hart/bggallery1.htm Ben W Bell 19:48, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Can we please stop this pointless and endless set of reverts? — Neuropedia 00:54, 2005 Mar 1 (UTC)
Can'tStandYa is replacing text I'm trying to move out into Cylon (Battlestar Galactica). Can we resolve this please? I'm not getting into a revert war over it. — Neuropedia 10:45, 2005 Mar 31 (UTC)
I've tidied the article a fair bit; if anyone takes offence that I've deleted / altered some of your text, please don't! I'd love to see this article make TFA, so if we can all work as a pleasant amorphous editing blob instead of a spikey stabby reverting mob, that would rock.
Also, I've removed Boxey from the first season cast list; I don't think he appeared in a single episode. Someone please prove me wrong though! — Neuropedia 20:53, 2005 Apr 11 (UTC)
Much text from this section has been successfully moved and expanded upon in the main 'Cylon' article; please respect this attempt to keep the main BSG2K3 article pared to allow as much central information about the show to remain in this article unimpeded. Thanks! - Neuropedia 20:48, 2005 Apr 11 (UTC)
Now that a new season of Battlestar is coming out; I wonder if the title should be changed from Battlestar Galactica (2003) to something like Battlestar Galactica (mini series) or something similar? The show isn't just a 2003 only and a new page for 2005 would detract from a single article synergy. I would like to hear what other titles would be better or if you think that 2003 is good enough. Supercoop 19:55, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
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How about "Battlestar Galactica (Re-imagining)"? -- ToastyKen
I like (2003) well enough. After all, the mini series leads quite directly into the regular series. Luis Dantas
- - - For now, to be consistent with the Mini series and 2004 tv series, I am going to rename this article Battlestar Galactica (2003 TV series). Any objections? -- Supercoop 17:08, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Should the references to UK instead be U.S.? I don't know as I have not caught myself up on the series or its origins, but if the series is airing first in the U.S., then I imagine the 'overseas' would be the U.K.-airing ones. 12.106.100.92 19:28, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
FRAK:
There is now a listing for frak and it could certainly use some additional information, perspective, etc. I've seen two alternate spellings for frak too, being "frack" and "fraq." While I don't think either is "official" (is there an "official" spelling?), Frak seems to be the universally accepted spelling.
Shouldn't it be feldercarb? 1Winston 17:18, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Crashdown died in 'Fragged', which aired July 29th on SciFi. Should he still be listed as a "Regular Guest"?
Both Grace Park and Katee Sackhoff have the same birth day and birth year, April 8th, 1980. How odd is that? -- Admiral Roo 12:04, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
Why don't you? You seem to know, for instance, that there is an RPG. — Phil Welch 04:50, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Haven't RPG companies learned that a game based off a TV series doesn't do well... lets see, the Star Trek RPG and Babylon 5 RPG's aren't big sellers... The Farscape and Stargate SG-1 RPG's both bombed... I can't see a BSG game doing much better... "Oh you fight a Cylon", "you kill him... roll damage... okey, here comes ANOTHER Cylon..." Thats got excitement like you won't believe. When will they ever learn? Cyberia23 20:15, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
There are several Battlestar RPGs on the net, they are freeform storytelling rpgs. There IS more to an rpg than just using dice rolls... They can be a great exercise in creative writing.
Best one out there can be found by googling Galactica RPG
205.206.25.184
05:53, 22 December 2005 (UTC)Kitera
Hey, I wanted to add to the article couple sentences about unique filming style of the Galactica. Something like What makes Battlestar Galactica so unique is probably the style of filming. The constant shakiness of the camera, close-ups and uncommon shooting angles give the impression that it is more of a documentary than a sci-fi serie. I was pretty impressed by the unique shakiness... i now call it "Shaky camera movie". :) Robert 19:26, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
The only problem is that i couldn't figure out where to add that info. The article doesn't mention anything about filming, about special effects or anything about production in general. That's why i haven't added that. - Robert 23:15, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
I rewrote the opening summary with a link to naturalistic science fiction. — Phil Welch 05:13, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
I don't think it is necessary for there to be episode lists in the main article, since they already exist here: List of Battlestar Galactica (2003) episodes. What does everyone else think? -- Scjessey 12:23, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
{{spoilers}}
Let's look at all models revealed so far:
For humanoids:
For others:
That adds up to 13 total. Clearly, the "12 new models" only applies to humanoids, especially since Ronald D. Moore said that there could be an additional one revealed in the second part of the season. Kuralyov 00:50, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
All that Six confirms is that there are still models around that look like walking chrome toasters, not that they're identical to the one seen in the museum. She's obviously referring to the new Centurions, not the "original" ones. So, even if we assume that there are only twelve Cylon models, all that Six has done has said that one of those models is the Centurion.
People are still confusing the issue, perhaps, because the writers weren't as clear as they could have been, and because the exact wording of Adama's note (or its existence) isn't as distinctly remembered as the more vague dialogue. Secondly, it's a presumption that Baltar left Adama the note. It could have been Boomer (acting under Cylon programming during a blackout, like when she bombs the water tanks or kills Adama). It could have been yet another Cylon agent hiding in the fleet. The purpose of the note and who left it is still a mystery. "There are only 12 Cylon models" is cryptic and not all that helpful to Adama. Even if it's intended to help him, Adama has no reason *not* to count the Centurions as a Cylon model—if the purpose, as you suggest, is to tell Adama how many humanoid infiltrators there are, the note would speak of them specifically and not simply talk about Cylon models in general. "There are only 12 Cylon models" has a very clear, distinct, unambiguous meaning.
As for my BMW argument, it's about the English language, not Earth. If Six, or the note, had said "There have been a total of twelve Cylon models since the creation of the Cylons", then we would know for certain that it included the original Centurion. But they did *not* say that, they said "there are only twelve Cylon models", which is present tense, i.e. presumably not referring to 40 year old models that aren't in operation anymore. It's not impossible that it refers to old models, but we have no reason to conclude definitively and unambiguously that it does, especially in the face of more definite and clear evidence to the contrary. As for the ships—it's never been definitively stated that the ships themselves are Cylons, only that the Raiders appear to be autonomous biological units. There's room for ambiguity there. To me, it makes absolutely no sense to reject clear, unambiguous evidence written into the script by Ron Moore for a mishmash of ambiguity, 3-second references to the original series, and fanon. — Phil Welch 06:16, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
There's misunderstanding, perhaps. But "there are only twelve Cylon models" is not ambiguous by any stretch of the imagination, bizarre fanboy interpretations notwithstanding. — Phil Welch 16:05, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
How do you know Baltar left the note? It could have been Boomer, or another sleeper agent. If the person who left the note meant the humanoid models, then why didn't the note say "there are only 12 humanoid Cylon models" or something to that effect? Why did the note reference Cylon models in general, which as you concede include the Centurion? Finally, counting the Centurions, there are still five Cylon models waiting to be revealed. You're the one who seems set on counting spacecraft as Cylon models, which is a bit of an presumption on your part. — Phil Welch 17:33, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Just want to point out two things. 1) The new Ford Mustang, while not anything like the old Mustang, is still a Mustang Model. So, the new Centurion design may be merely an upgraded or redisigned version of that model. 2) That information "12 models" is very subject to change. After all I can say there are 10 Ford models on the road. Then Ford can go and make 4 new models. And so can the Cylons make new models from the point that the information of 12 models comes into the audienced knowledge. 4.249.132.93 20:57, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Only human-cylons are the models from my understanding. -- ^BuGs^ 08:05, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
At this point these seven talk of "the final 5" the end of season three reveals the following 4:
Granted, there is still a chance that it's wrong, but the season closes wanting the audience thinking that they are indeed Cylons. I'm not sure if the season implied one other (aside from Gaius in the more than obvious way), but I wasn't looking too close. I think it would be good to place these within the main article with a spoiler warning. I'm still new to wikipedia and editing, but I know these 11 to be called cylons withing the context of the show. ~AlvinBlah
In an interview [3], Bear McCreary specifically refers to Gaelic, rather than Irish, for some of the vocals. -- Scjessey 15:52, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
Are we certain that it is Irish gaelic being used in the vocals, instead of one of the other forms? -- Scjessey 12:49, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
Coming before the Table Of Contents, the introductory text seems to be quite long. Shouldn't much of its bulk be integrated into the main article? Also, that article seems quite long - perhaps the Mini Series and the Regular Series should be separated? -- Scjessey 20:01, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
I wonder if it might be worth noting in a trivia item or elsewhere that, while most current TV series have gone out of their way to not have characters smoking, BSG has sort of gone the opposite direction. Of course we have Starbuck who smokes cigars, and we also know Adama does as well. And then we have the ship's doctor who smokes like a chimney. Maybe it's not worth mentioning, but these days it seems to unusual for a show to have smoking -- and in the case of Starbuck make it an endearing part of her character. Thoughts? 23skidoo 04:22, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
I think the cigarette-smoking doctor is just supposed to be a stubborn, curmodgeonly old man. — Phil Welch 05:17, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Question: With the shows trying to maintain a realistic tone in regards to science, isn't smoking a problem. It uses precious oxygen to burn and contaminates the recirulated air. Even if the air is scrubbed clean, the filtering agents would need replacing more frequently. I am surprised that the issue isn't addressed in regards to the nesasity to breathe and to the crew's health. 4.249.132.93 21:05, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
I am guessing that a Battlestar would have industrial-size filters- a few people smoking would probably not affect the whole crew of thousands of people. Anyway, if they used pure oxygen on the Galactica, smoking a cigarette would make the ship explode. They probably just recirculate the air over and over, making that a valid point. However, what if they dont need to replace the scrubbers, but clean them instead? I am anticipating an episode where the Cylons attack the scrubbers, I guarantee that will come sooner or later.-- Zxcvbnm 21:19, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
I wonder if a subsection listing examples of intentional similarities with 21st Century Earth might be interesting? Unlike the original series which strove to introduce "alien" concepts, there are a lot of familiar trappings on the new series, ranging from men wearing ties to graffiti in Caprica City to, as noted above, the use of cigarettes and cigars. The episode "Colonial Day" included a fairly obvious parody of not only Talk Radio (called Talk Wireless here) but also debate-oriented political shows such as Crossfire and the McLaughlin Group. There has even been a couple of examples of (possibly) unintentional references, such as the appearance of a Readers Digest book in Adama's office or a visible Scotiabank logo on one of Caprica's buildings. It's been noted the article is becoming a bit long as it is, but do you think it might be worth starting a separate article to discuss these similarities? 23skidoo 14:46, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
I was watching the episode where the Cylons shut off main power for Galactica, and they had it drifting in space. Then it dawned on me....don't they need power to power the "artificial gravity," it they even have it? Maybe they meant it that way, but that was strange in regards to keeping the show "Realistic."-- Zxcvbnm 21:14, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Would anyone be opposed on moving all the details of reimaging the series to another page? Say create a Battlestar Galactica (Universe) page where it's appropriate to discuss both series. I think this page should be focused on the new series, especially if it continues on for several seasons. Also, since the main page is getting long. -- vossman 20:39, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
I mentioned doing something about that earlier in this talk page, but it was not met with any enthusiasm. I actually think the series of Battlestar Galactica articles needs to be reorganized. The classic series, mini series, and new series should all have their own pages, together with a page that discusses the differences between the classic and reimagined series. So I'm definitely in favor of some sort of change, as you suggest. -- Scjessey 01:05, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
C'mon folks, this is an encyclopedia entry, not a fan site. Do we really need to know every single detail of what is different between the old and new shows? (Who really cares if the original ship called them "scanners" and the new one uses "radar" -- sheesh!) That's the job of an exhaustive fan web site, not Wikipedia. Can't some of this stuff be spun of into separate Wikipedia entries (if not simply axed and left to the fan sites?) I'm sorry, I just I hate to see Wikipedia used as free hosting for fans who are too cheap to set up their own sites. This entry should be much more pithy and to-the-point. Imagine if you knew nothing about either series -- wouldn't this entry bore you to tears? Mecandes 20:07, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
I would have to agree. Really, that should just be cut down to about 2 or 3 entries at the most. Captain Spyro
The Wikipedia FAQ about Article size does not appear to address this issue directly. I am sure similar discussions have taken place about other articles. Can anyone find a precedent either way? Peteresch 18:06, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
The article is now almost 50 kilobytes, which is ridiculous, quite frankly. Wikipedia:Article size suggests that anything in excess of 32 kilobytes should probably be split up. I think we should begin the process of organizing the article into convenient chunks. I'm definitely not in favor of removing content, but I certainly think it needs to be moved around a bit. -- Scjessey 02:43, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
The rank of Lieutenant Colonel has been added and removed 3 times in the past month. Please discuss this before going another round. Peteresch 15:08, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus
I propose we merge at the least 2003 and 2003 miniseries. The mini series article is not long and could easily fit into the 2003 article.
I guess I'd like to see 2003, 2003 miniseries and 2004 tv series all in not... but that is a larger project.
I propose this, because as a go about seeking to read about the new bsg or add info, I have to jump a couple of pages to find it.
Any thoughts? Sethie 23:54, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
The articles were split out on January 3, 2006 because the main article was too large. Let's give it some time before we even consider merging anything. Peteresch 01:05, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I see no reason for this article to exist. If there already is one on the miniseries and one on the series, what precisely is supposed to be the topic of this one? What is distinct about the information on this article? It's completely redundant. Its info should be merged into the other two articles. Nightscream 07:23, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Criminy ... when did this split happen? The split of the single article re. the second production of a BSG show is now three articles filled with cruft. Wouldn't it have been better that the original article covered everything but was removed of cruft? Do we really need a list of ranks in the show? Do we need a huge table of airdates when a simple list would do? I'm really disappointed as to what's happened to this article over the last few months. I'm tempted to just merge everything back into one and clear out the extraneous arse that's accrued. Who's coming with me? :) — Neuropedia 23:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
It has been announced that a spin-off series, about the planet Caprica, is in the works. It is set 50 years before the events of the mini series, but it is in the same universe. The Adama family will be featured. When this airs, it is likely to increase the amount of information about the Battlestar Galactica universe that is available. Any talk of article mergers must take this new information in to account. Frankly, I think it would be madness to merge any of these articles, given the amount of information being presented. Battlestar Galactica could be compared with Star Trek in terms of scope, and Trek has hundreds of articles associated with it. -- Scjessey 20:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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Neuropedia
15:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC)What do you think? Jtmichcock 03:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Photo | Performer | Rank | Role | Call Sign | Position |
File:Edward james olmos.jpg | Edward James Olmos | Commander | William Adama | "Husker" | Commanding officer of the Battlestar Galactica; father of Lee Adama |
Nice that it is, I think it's overkill for the Wikipedia. -- Scjessey 12:11, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
There is some precedent with Star Trek DS9 and CSI but also many without, such as Law & Order, JAG, 24 and ER. At this time I do not support formatting the content in this manner. If a more general discussion concerning all television shows takes place and a template is made then I would support it. Peteresch 18:42, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I vote yeah. Right now it appears it is up to each show to decide. Sethie 18:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I have made the DVD release a subcategory of the Episode list, but it seems more appropriate to move the DVD section to be a "part 2" of the main article. Then the "Episode List" can be changed to "Episodes" with an intro as to how many shows have been produced and what's available on DVD, yadda yadda, followed by a link to the existing main article with the list. This would also address the complaint above that the episode list is rather dull. If there are objections or suggestions, post below. Jtmichcock 03:05, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
I support Lucius1976's addition of Canada to the country of origin. Not only is it filmed in Canada - Vancouver standing in for Caprica - but a number of cast members are Canadian as well. 23skidoo 00:00, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
The answer, of course, is "screw the infobox and provide all useful information as completely as possible". That's the Wikipedia way. — Phil Welch Are you a fan of the band Rush? 18:46, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
LOL. It would seem that the massed ranks of Canadians have managed to get their wish :D As a British citizen, perhaps I should make a case for including the UK in the country of origin, since it stumped up much of the cash for Season One! -- Scjessey 21:45, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I wonder if Battlestar Galactica fulfills Canadian content regulations... — Phil Welch Are you a fan of the band Rush? 23:08, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, actually I don't think it only the funds matter. Many funds of movies in the past came from Germany (stupid German money). So just giving money does make it a production of a country. It more matters where it is produced, not just some shots, but where the bulk of it is produced, edited etc. Therefor it's fair to include Canada.
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Lucius1976
08:08, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Why aren't all the folks clamoring to identify BSG as a (part-)Canadian show also making similar edits to The X-Files, Millennium, etc.? Seems inconsistent. EEMeltonIV 14:29, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Now that you mentioning it :-). Well, I just didn't kept track with all the other series yes, but thats fixable. If it is comparable with this series that I will change it as well. I am to lazy to research it now. -- Lucius1976 14:42, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
-- Lucius1976 19:29, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Aside from keeping the endnote, I don't really care. This gives me discretion to enforce Wikipedia anti-edit-warring policies, so watch out. — Phil Welch Are you a fan of the band Rush? 18:44, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Actually, in the box there is no information about "Country of origin". Just plain "Country". Leaves lot of room for interpretations. -- Lucius1976 19:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
I suggest a Cylon Category comprising of the: Cylons (1970's/80's) model, Cylons (2003) model, Cylon God and the Humano Cylons themselves. - SGCommand
Now that Caprica (TV series) has been announced, will this article be for the TV series and the miniseries only, with lots of stuff repeated between the three pages, or the whole re-imagined universe, with Caprica stuff added? Ausir 10:46, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
I think some mention must be made as to the how there is controversy among fans of the original series. Some fans hate the series and others enjoy it.
This is getting absurd. We can't have this article being renamed back and forth without discussion, as seems to have happened recently. Right now, the Battlestar Galactica name, as it pertains to visual media, encompasses at least the following, to my knowledge:
This article is about the re-imagined universe, not any of the specific TV series. Therefore, in my opinion, naming it by the year in which it was re-imagined is entirely inappropriate. Article name disambiguation should be done based on the disambiguating factor. In this case, it's the fact that this article describes the re-imagined universe that differentiates it from the other "Battlestar Galactica" articles, and therefore, the name "Battlestar Galactica (re-imagining)" seems to be the most appropriate, if a little unwieldy (accuracy is much more important than brevity in article names). A logical name needs to be agreed on and stuck with.
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Fru1tbat
13:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
ron moore said in a season one dvd extra feature that he came up with the idea to film BSG like a documentary. well, firefly actually came out before BSG and was shot the same way, so shouldnt a mention of it be in the article, stating that he didnt actually come up with it?- Xornok 13:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I'd really like to see a section for popular criticisms of the show. Such points as:
Anybody have any good reasons why I shouldn't add these to the main article? It would be interesting to see what people decide to add to it. Transentient
I'm requesting that someone who is familiar with the new series of Battlestar Galactica rewrites this page. As stated in the description at the top of this article, the content is meant to be about the universe of the reimagined series of Battlestar Galactica. As someone who has never watched Battlestar Galactica, I can say unequivocally that this article explains nothing to me. It is overly concerned with production data, and poorly written/organised. LuNatic 07:00, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
This is valid information... please discuss here first rather than just deleting. Thanks. -- Ckatz chat spy 01:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
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Shouldn't there be some sort of spoiler warning? I read this page after watching the miniseries and season one and found a few spoilers. Wclapier 05:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
During a showing of new TV series by the m,ajor networks to the TV media in June, 2003. Bonnie Hammer the President of the Sci-Fi Channel was there to show off the mini-series along with the show's star Edward James Olmos. Bonnie Hammer stated that this new version that fans of the original 1978 series will like this new version. Edward James Olmos immediately stepped up and stated, "Actually fans of the original series will hate this new version they are better off buying the DVDs that are coming out." Reporters that attended the news conference there said that Bonnie Hammer had a shocked looked on her face. Some that were closer to the stage reported heard Bonnie Hammer saying something to the effect, "oh, kill me now." As the news conference kept going everytime Bonnie Hammer said something positive about the new version, Edward Olmos kept saying something negative saying the original fans shouldn't watch it.
This occurred to me after seeing the mini-series. The "12 tribes of Kobol" struck me as being somewhat analogous to the "12 tribes of Israel." When they mentioned the "13th tribe" that went to Earth, it also reminded me of Mormonism. Don't the Mormons believe that there was a 13th tribe of Israel that crossed the ocean and settled in North America? If so, is this parallel only coincidence? I never saw the original series, did it contain this same mythology? In any case, is it even worth mentioning in the article? -- Bjsiders 15:50, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Mormons believe that there were 12 tribes of Israel. However, they believe that the "Ten Lost Tribes of Israel" settled in North America. The creator of the original series, Glen A. Larson, is Mormon so this parallel is probably not a coincidence. KitHutch 15:59, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
note: These parallels are explored in more detail at Battlestar Galactica and Mormonism. VigilancePrime 01:29, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
The Quorum of the 12 (a political body in BSG) looks like a direct reference to the Mormon group of the same name. Wclapier 05:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
This is the text of the original press release regarding the announcement of the additional 6 episodes.
"Battlestar Galactica, the update of the classic 1979 television series that is at the center of a war between the studio that produces it and the fans who can't wait for its January, 2005 launch on the US Sci Fi Channel, has been given an extra six-episode pickup. This will bring the total for season one to 19 episodes.
While this doesn't guarantee a second season, it is seen as a good sign. Executive producer David Eick told Sci Fi Magazine, "Just after I finished exhaling, it'll be time to jump right back into it".
The success of the series during its run on the Sky One channel in the UK has been cited as the primary reason to order more episodes before the series has even premiered in the US. The new series has generated a high amount of interest and has been one of the most active downloads in the various file trading groups, something that has worried Galactica's producer, Universal Studios, to the point of taking action against fans who would try to see the series early. This early indicator of the series' success would seem to torpedo some of the studio's own arguments against the file traders that included the possibility of diminished ratings and loss of revenue for the series. Battlestar Galactica will premiere on the US Sci Fi Channel on January 14th, 2005."
Clearly states the additional episodes will be added to the end of series one, and not become part of series two.
I think the opening text before each episode should be removed as it is misleading. It changes throughout the series, and while it is still composed of mainly the same lines, some are added or removed depending on the needs of the individual episode.
Ben W Bell 09:42, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
The opening vocals in the British version are apparently from Hindu sources (the Gayatri Mantra), not Celtic. The words are:
AUM BHOOR BHUWAH SWAHA, TAT SAVITUR VARENYAM BHARGO DEVASAYA DHEEMAHI DHIYO YO NAHA PRACHODAYAT
Translation:
Oh God! Thou art the Giver of Life, Remover of pain and sorrow, The Bestower of happiness, Oh! Creator of the Universe, May we receive thy supreme sin-destroying light, May Thou guide our intellect in the right direction.
from: http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=114327 and: http://www.syfyportal.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2708
As of Season 2, unless I'm misremembering, the US opening titles match the UK opening titles. The three episodes broadcast on NBC also used the UK titles, including the population count.
Cheers,
S
Why is there such a debate on whether or not the original Colonel Tigh was black or not. Tigh was most definitely black, he was played by Terry Carter in the original movie and TV series, and Terry Carter is most definitely black. Check halfway down this page for a photo from the series. http://www.blast.net/hart/bggallery1.htm Ben W Bell 19:48, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Can we please stop this pointless and endless set of reverts? — Neuropedia 00:54, 2005 Mar 1 (UTC)
Can'tStandYa is replacing text I'm trying to move out into Cylon (Battlestar Galactica). Can we resolve this please? I'm not getting into a revert war over it. — Neuropedia 10:45, 2005 Mar 31 (UTC)
I've tidied the article a fair bit; if anyone takes offence that I've deleted / altered some of your text, please don't! I'd love to see this article make TFA, so if we can all work as a pleasant amorphous editing blob instead of a spikey stabby reverting mob, that would rock.
Also, I've removed Boxey from the first season cast list; I don't think he appeared in a single episode. Someone please prove me wrong though! — Neuropedia 20:53, 2005 Apr 11 (UTC)
Much text from this section has been successfully moved and expanded upon in the main 'Cylon' article; please respect this attempt to keep the main BSG2K3 article pared to allow as much central information about the show to remain in this article unimpeded. Thanks! - Neuropedia 20:48, 2005 Apr 11 (UTC)
Now that a new season of Battlestar is coming out; I wonder if the title should be changed from Battlestar Galactica (2003) to something like Battlestar Galactica (mini series) or something similar? The show isn't just a 2003 only and a new page for 2005 would detract from a single article synergy. I would like to hear what other titles would be better or if you think that 2003 is good enough. Supercoop 19:55, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
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How about "Battlestar Galactica (Re-imagining)"? -- ToastyKen
I like (2003) well enough. After all, the mini series leads quite directly into the regular series. Luis Dantas
- - - For now, to be consistent with the Mini series and 2004 tv series, I am going to rename this article Battlestar Galactica (2003 TV series). Any objections? -- Supercoop 17:08, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Should the references to UK instead be U.S.? I don't know as I have not caught myself up on the series or its origins, but if the series is airing first in the U.S., then I imagine the 'overseas' would be the U.K.-airing ones. 12.106.100.92 19:28, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
FRAK:
There is now a listing for frak and it could certainly use some additional information, perspective, etc. I've seen two alternate spellings for frak too, being "frack" and "fraq." While I don't think either is "official" (is there an "official" spelling?), Frak seems to be the universally accepted spelling.
Shouldn't it be feldercarb? 1Winston 17:18, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Crashdown died in 'Fragged', which aired July 29th on SciFi. Should he still be listed as a "Regular Guest"?
Both Grace Park and Katee Sackhoff have the same birth day and birth year, April 8th, 1980. How odd is that? -- Admiral Roo 12:04, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
Why don't you? You seem to know, for instance, that there is an RPG. — Phil Welch 04:50, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Haven't RPG companies learned that a game based off a TV series doesn't do well... lets see, the Star Trek RPG and Babylon 5 RPG's aren't big sellers... The Farscape and Stargate SG-1 RPG's both bombed... I can't see a BSG game doing much better... "Oh you fight a Cylon", "you kill him... roll damage... okey, here comes ANOTHER Cylon..." Thats got excitement like you won't believe. When will they ever learn? Cyberia23 20:15, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
There are several Battlestar RPGs on the net, they are freeform storytelling rpgs. There IS more to an rpg than just using dice rolls... They can be a great exercise in creative writing.
Best one out there can be found by googling Galactica RPG
205.206.25.184
05:53, 22 December 2005 (UTC)Kitera
Hey, I wanted to add to the article couple sentences about unique filming style of the Galactica. Something like What makes Battlestar Galactica so unique is probably the style of filming. The constant shakiness of the camera, close-ups and uncommon shooting angles give the impression that it is more of a documentary than a sci-fi serie. I was pretty impressed by the unique shakiness... i now call it "Shaky camera movie". :) Robert 19:26, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
The only problem is that i couldn't figure out where to add that info. The article doesn't mention anything about filming, about special effects or anything about production in general. That's why i haven't added that. - Robert 23:15, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
I rewrote the opening summary with a link to naturalistic science fiction. — Phil Welch 05:13, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
I don't think it is necessary for there to be episode lists in the main article, since they already exist here: List of Battlestar Galactica (2003) episodes. What does everyone else think? -- Scjessey 12:23, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
{{spoilers}}
Let's look at all models revealed so far:
For humanoids:
For others:
That adds up to 13 total. Clearly, the "12 new models" only applies to humanoids, especially since Ronald D. Moore said that there could be an additional one revealed in the second part of the season. Kuralyov 00:50, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
All that Six confirms is that there are still models around that look like walking chrome toasters, not that they're identical to the one seen in the museum. She's obviously referring to the new Centurions, not the "original" ones. So, even if we assume that there are only twelve Cylon models, all that Six has done has said that one of those models is the Centurion.
People are still confusing the issue, perhaps, because the writers weren't as clear as they could have been, and because the exact wording of Adama's note (or its existence) isn't as distinctly remembered as the more vague dialogue. Secondly, it's a presumption that Baltar left Adama the note. It could have been Boomer (acting under Cylon programming during a blackout, like when she bombs the water tanks or kills Adama). It could have been yet another Cylon agent hiding in the fleet. The purpose of the note and who left it is still a mystery. "There are only 12 Cylon models" is cryptic and not all that helpful to Adama. Even if it's intended to help him, Adama has no reason *not* to count the Centurions as a Cylon model—if the purpose, as you suggest, is to tell Adama how many humanoid infiltrators there are, the note would speak of them specifically and not simply talk about Cylon models in general. "There are only 12 Cylon models" has a very clear, distinct, unambiguous meaning.
As for my BMW argument, it's about the English language, not Earth. If Six, or the note, had said "There have been a total of twelve Cylon models since the creation of the Cylons", then we would know for certain that it included the original Centurion. But they did *not* say that, they said "there are only twelve Cylon models", which is present tense, i.e. presumably not referring to 40 year old models that aren't in operation anymore. It's not impossible that it refers to old models, but we have no reason to conclude definitively and unambiguously that it does, especially in the face of more definite and clear evidence to the contrary. As for the ships—it's never been definitively stated that the ships themselves are Cylons, only that the Raiders appear to be autonomous biological units. There's room for ambiguity there. To me, it makes absolutely no sense to reject clear, unambiguous evidence written into the script by Ron Moore for a mishmash of ambiguity, 3-second references to the original series, and fanon. — Phil Welch 06:16, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
There's misunderstanding, perhaps. But "there are only twelve Cylon models" is not ambiguous by any stretch of the imagination, bizarre fanboy interpretations notwithstanding. — Phil Welch 16:05, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
How do you know Baltar left the note? It could have been Boomer, or another sleeper agent. If the person who left the note meant the humanoid models, then why didn't the note say "there are only 12 humanoid Cylon models" or something to that effect? Why did the note reference Cylon models in general, which as you concede include the Centurion? Finally, counting the Centurions, there are still five Cylon models waiting to be revealed. You're the one who seems set on counting spacecraft as Cylon models, which is a bit of an presumption on your part. — Phil Welch 17:33, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Just want to point out two things. 1) The new Ford Mustang, while not anything like the old Mustang, is still a Mustang Model. So, the new Centurion design may be merely an upgraded or redisigned version of that model. 2) That information "12 models" is very subject to change. After all I can say there are 10 Ford models on the road. Then Ford can go and make 4 new models. And so can the Cylons make new models from the point that the information of 12 models comes into the audienced knowledge. 4.249.132.93 20:57, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Only human-cylons are the models from my understanding. -- ^BuGs^ 08:05, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
At this point these seven talk of "the final 5" the end of season three reveals the following 4:
Granted, there is still a chance that it's wrong, but the season closes wanting the audience thinking that they are indeed Cylons. I'm not sure if the season implied one other (aside from Gaius in the more than obvious way), but I wasn't looking too close. I think it would be good to place these within the main article with a spoiler warning. I'm still new to wikipedia and editing, but I know these 11 to be called cylons withing the context of the show. ~AlvinBlah
In an interview [3], Bear McCreary specifically refers to Gaelic, rather than Irish, for some of the vocals. -- Scjessey 15:52, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
Are we certain that it is Irish gaelic being used in the vocals, instead of one of the other forms? -- Scjessey 12:49, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
Coming before the Table Of Contents, the introductory text seems to be quite long. Shouldn't much of its bulk be integrated into the main article? Also, that article seems quite long - perhaps the Mini Series and the Regular Series should be separated? -- Scjessey 20:01, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
I wonder if it might be worth noting in a trivia item or elsewhere that, while most current TV series have gone out of their way to not have characters smoking, BSG has sort of gone the opposite direction. Of course we have Starbuck who smokes cigars, and we also know Adama does as well. And then we have the ship's doctor who smokes like a chimney. Maybe it's not worth mentioning, but these days it seems to unusual for a show to have smoking -- and in the case of Starbuck make it an endearing part of her character. Thoughts? 23skidoo 04:22, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
I think the cigarette-smoking doctor is just supposed to be a stubborn, curmodgeonly old man. — Phil Welch 05:17, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Question: With the shows trying to maintain a realistic tone in regards to science, isn't smoking a problem. It uses precious oxygen to burn and contaminates the recirulated air. Even if the air is scrubbed clean, the filtering agents would need replacing more frequently. I am surprised that the issue isn't addressed in regards to the nesasity to breathe and to the crew's health. 4.249.132.93 21:05, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
I am guessing that a Battlestar would have industrial-size filters- a few people smoking would probably not affect the whole crew of thousands of people. Anyway, if they used pure oxygen on the Galactica, smoking a cigarette would make the ship explode. They probably just recirculate the air over and over, making that a valid point. However, what if they dont need to replace the scrubbers, but clean them instead? I am anticipating an episode where the Cylons attack the scrubbers, I guarantee that will come sooner or later.-- Zxcvbnm 21:19, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
I wonder if a subsection listing examples of intentional similarities with 21st Century Earth might be interesting? Unlike the original series which strove to introduce "alien" concepts, there are a lot of familiar trappings on the new series, ranging from men wearing ties to graffiti in Caprica City to, as noted above, the use of cigarettes and cigars. The episode "Colonial Day" included a fairly obvious parody of not only Talk Radio (called Talk Wireless here) but also debate-oriented political shows such as Crossfire and the McLaughlin Group. There has even been a couple of examples of (possibly) unintentional references, such as the appearance of a Readers Digest book in Adama's office or a visible Scotiabank logo on one of Caprica's buildings. It's been noted the article is becoming a bit long as it is, but do you think it might be worth starting a separate article to discuss these similarities? 23skidoo 14:46, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
I was watching the episode where the Cylons shut off main power for Galactica, and they had it drifting in space. Then it dawned on me....don't they need power to power the "artificial gravity," it they even have it? Maybe they meant it that way, but that was strange in regards to keeping the show "Realistic."-- Zxcvbnm 21:14, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Would anyone be opposed on moving all the details of reimaging the series to another page? Say create a Battlestar Galactica (Universe) page where it's appropriate to discuss both series. I think this page should be focused on the new series, especially if it continues on for several seasons. Also, since the main page is getting long. -- vossman 20:39, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
I mentioned doing something about that earlier in this talk page, but it was not met with any enthusiasm. I actually think the series of Battlestar Galactica articles needs to be reorganized. The classic series, mini series, and new series should all have their own pages, together with a page that discusses the differences between the classic and reimagined series. So I'm definitely in favor of some sort of change, as you suggest. -- Scjessey 01:05, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
C'mon folks, this is an encyclopedia entry, not a fan site. Do we really need to know every single detail of what is different between the old and new shows? (Who really cares if the original ship called them "scanners" and the new one uses "radar" -- sheesh!) That's the job of an exhaustive fan web site, not Wikipedia. Can't some of this stuff be spun of into separate Wikipedia entries (if not simply axed and left to the fan sites?) I'm sorry, I just I hate to see Wikipedia used as free hosting for fans who are too cheap to set up their own sites. This entry should be much more pithy and to-the-point. Imagine if you knew nothing about either series -- wouldn't this entry bore you to tears? Mecandes 20:07, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
I would have to agree. Really, that should just be cut down to about 2 or 3 entries at the most. Captain Spyro
The Wikipedia FAQ about Article size does not appear to address this issue directly. I am sure similar discussions have taken place about other articles. Can anyone find a precedent either way? Peteresch 18:06, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
The article is now almost 50 kilobytes, which is ridiculous, quite frankly. Wikipedia:Article size suggests that anything in excess of 32 kilobytes should probably be split up. I think we should begin the process of organizing the article into convenient chunks. I'm definitely not in favor of removing content, but I certainly think it needs to be moved around a bit. -- Scjessey 02:43, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
The rank of Lieutenant Colonel has been added and removed 3 times in the past month. Please discuss this before going another round. Peteresch 15:08, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus
I propose we merge at the least 2003 and 2003 miniseries. The mini series article is not long and could easily fit into the 2003 article.
I guess I'd like to see 2003, 2003 miniseries and 2004 tv series all in not... but that is a larger project.
I propose this, because as a go about seeking to read about the new bsg or add info, I have to jump a couple of pages to find it.
Any thoughts? Sethie 23:54, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
The articles were split out on January 3, 2006 because the main article was too large. Let's give it some time before we even consider merging anything. Peteresch 01:05, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I see no reason for this article to exist. If there already is one on the miniseries and one on the series, what precisely is supposed to be the topic of this one? What is distinct about the information on this article? It's completely redundant. Its info should be merged into the other two articles. Nightscream 07:23, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Criminy ... when did this split happen? The split of the single article re. the second production of a BSG show is now three articles filled with cruft. Wouldn't it have been better that the original article covered everything but was removed of cruft? Do we really need a list of ranks in the show? Do we need a huge table of airdates when a simple list would do? I'm really disappointed as to what's happened to this article over the last few months. I'm tempted to just merge everything back into one and clear out the extraneous arse that's accrued. Who's coming with me? :) — Neuropedia 23:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
It has been announced that a spin-off series, about the planet Caprica, is in the works. It is set 50 years before the events of the mini series, but it is in the same universe. The Adama family will be featured. When this airs, it is likely to increase the amount of information about the Battlestar Galactica universe that is available. Any talk of article mergers must take this new information in to account. Frankly, I think it would be madness to merge any of these articles, given the amount of information being presented. Battlestar Galactica could be compared with Star Trek in terms of scope, and Trek has hundreds of articles associated with it. -- Scjessey 20:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
:)
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Neuropedia
15:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC)What do you think? Jtmichcock 03:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Photo | Performer | Rank | Role | Call Sign | Position |
File:Edward james olmos.jpg | Edward James Olmos | Commander | William Adama | "Husker" | Commanding officer of the Battlestar Galactica; father of Lee Adama |
Nice that it is, I think it's overkill for the Wikipedia. -- Scjessey 12:11, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
There is some precedent with Star Trek DS9 and CSI but also many without, such as Law & Order, JAG, 24 and ER. At this time I do not support formatting the content in this manner. If a more general discussion concerning all television shows takes place and a template is made then I would support it. Peteresch 18:42, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I vote yeah. Right now it appears it is up to each show to decide. Sethie 18:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
I have made the DVD release a subcategory of the Episode list, but it seems more appropriate to move the DVD section to be a "part 2" of the main article. Then the "Episode List" can be changed to "Episodes" with an intro as to how many shows have been produced and what's available on DVD, yadda yadda, followed by a link to the existing main article with the list. This would also address the complaint above that the episode list is rather dull. If there are objections or suggestions, post below. Jtmichcock 03:05, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
I support Lucius1976's addition of Canada to the country of origin. Not only is it filmed in Canada - Vancouver standing in for Caprica - but a number of cast members are Canadian as well. 23skidoo 00:00, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
The answer, of course, is "screw the infobox and provide all useful information as completely as possible". That's the Wikipedia way. — Phil Welch Are you a fan of the band Rush? 18:46, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
LOL. It would seem that the massed ranks of Canadians have managed to get their wish :D As a British citizen, perhaps I should make a case for including the UK in the country of origin, since it stumped up much of the cash for Season One! -- Scjessey 21:45, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I wonder if Battlestar Galactica fulfills Canadian content regulations... — Phil Welch Are you a fan of the band Rush? 23:08, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, actually I don't think it only the funds matter. Many funds of movies in the past came from Germany (stupid German money). So just giving money does make it a production of a country. It more matters where it is produced, not just some shots, but where the bulk of it is produced, edited etc. Therefor it's fair to include Canada.
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Lucius1976
08:08, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Why aren't all the folks clamoring to identify BSG as a (part-)Canadian show also making similar edits to The X-Files, Millennium, etc.? Seems inconsistent. EEMeltonIV 14:29, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Now that you mentioning it :-). Well, I just didn't kept track with all the other series yes, but thats fixable. If it is comparable with this series that I will change it as well. I am to lazy to research it now. -- Lucius1976 14:42, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
-- Lucius1976 19:29, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Aside from keeping the endnote, I don't really care. This gives me discretion to enforce Wikipedia anti-edit-warring policies, so watch out. — Phil Welch Are you a fan of the band Rush? 18:44, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Actually, in the box there is no information about "Country of origin". Just plain "Country". Leaves lot of room for interpretations. -- Lucius1976 19:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
I suggest a Cylon Category comprising of the: Cylons (1970's/80's) model, Cylons (2003) model, Cylon God and the Humano Cylons themselves. - SGCommand
Now that Caprica (TV series) has been announced, will this article be for the TV series and the miniseries only, with lots of stuff repeated between the three pages, or the whole re-imagined universe, with Caprica stuff added? Ausir 10:46, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
I think some mention must be made as to the how there is controversy among fans of the original series. Some fans hate the series and others enjoy it.
This is getting absurd. We can't have this article being renamed back and forth without discussion, as seems to have happened recently. Right now, the Battlestar Galactica name, as it pertains to visual media, encompasses at least the following, to my knowledge:
This article is about the re-imagined universe, not any of the specific TV series. Therefore, in my opinion, naming it by the year in which it was re-imagined is entirely inappropriate. Article name disambiguation should be done based on the disambiguating factor. In this case, it's the fact that this article describes the re-imagined universe that differentiates it from the other "Battlestar Galactica" articles, and therefore, the name "Battlestar Galactica (re-imagining)" seems to be the most appropriate, if a little unwieldy (accuracy is much more important than brevity in article names). A logical name needs to be agreed on and stuck with.
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Fru1tbat
13:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
ron moore said in a season one dvd extra feature that he came up with the idea to film BSG like a documentary. well, firefly actually came out before BSG and was shot the same way, so shouldnt a mention of it be in the article, stating that he didnt actually come up with it?- Xornok 13:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I'd really like to see a section for popular criticisms of the show. Such points as:
Anybody have any good reasons why I shouldn't add these to the main article? It would be interesting to see what people decide to add to it. Transentient
I'm requesting that someone who is familiar with the new series of Battlestar Galactica rewrites this page. As stated in the description at the top of this article, the content is meant to be about the universe of the reimagined series of Battlestar Galactica. As someone who has never watched Battlestar Galactica, I can say unequivocally that this article explains nothing to me. It is overly concerned with production data, and poorly written/organised. LuNatic 07:00, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
This is valid information... please discuss here first rather than just deleting. Thanks. -- Ckatz chat spy 01:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)