Ummm ... shouldn't there be a caption to the photo? Was this fellow in the conflict (which is suggested by his appearance in the article) - I expect it is merely a photo of a soldier. Can someone please add an appropriate caption? Thanks, Hu Gadarn 21:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
It helps us all if reviewers can see who has entered comments in the discussion pages. Just use four tildes (~) at the end of your comment and you will get an automatic name/date/time stamp. Thanks, Hu Gadarn 21:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello everyone, I am attempting to give fresh inputs to this article. -- Bhadani 13:57, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
I have developed the article to some extent. -- Bhadani 18:55, 9 May 2005 (UTC) --- Hello i have verified too that there were 21 sikhs including the hawaldar and found out on other pages too. And this site has almost credible information on indian army and is perhaps the only one with extensive info http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/History/1765/Saragarhi.html
What an interesting article!
I have tidied up the English grammar a little to improve readability.
Am new to wiki. Have changed my original question title to make more specific/reflective of question I asked.(Hope this is OK)
Thank you again for your article. Your article inspired me to read further on the subject. With anything I think worthwhile, I always check sources, and that was what lead me to ask about it.
I had hoped to enhance the article by finding the specific link to the UNESCO quote so that others might be able to appreciate and compare the scale of the event. I spent several hours, searching generally, and specifically on the site, but was not successful.
I will read all of the links you have taken the time to give.
Best wishes.
ryangeary 0845, 13 February 2007
Great to find you around. I welcome you and hope to see more edits from you. I thank you for your comments above as such comments add to enhance value of wikipedia by citing sources and giving references. Your insight as a new editor is really remarkable to start wiki-ing with a serious topic (or perhaps you have been already wiki-ing) - in any case, welcome friend! I think that perhaps you could not find any reference as the facts appear incredible to many and so people may not try to search sufficiently. I am giving some links, and in case you have a large library nearby, you may try to locate some books on military history to read a little more than what wikipedia tells about this Battle - several books are available on this Battle :)
And, still there are many other resources including books and magazine in the printed media too. In case, you are interested in the topic and if you have time and inclination, please try to locate few of them and please try to update this wikipedia page. We certainly require editors like you to make this encyclopedia still better. Regards. -- Bhadani 04:39, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
The article seems a bit one sided (not exactly Neutral Point of View) but I've refrained from making any changes to this aspect of it. Redgrittybrick 22:54, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
I agree. For example, this claim should be referenced in the article: "The world received the details of the battle of Saragarhi with awe and admiration." If the world had such a response there must be some sort of record, no? I believe that this sacrifice is worthy or proper referencing otherwise it will be discounted as bumph. Thanks, Hu Gadarn 21:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Also this line, "When the heroic deeds of these valiant soldiers was recounted" hardly seems to be neutral. BTerran 14:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the article. It was a truly heroic effort on the part of the defenders.
I am unable to verify the claim that: "UNESCO has described the Battle of Saragarhi as one of eight stories of collective bravery". Can this be cited?
Similarly, is anybody able to cite at least one respected source to substantiate: "The battle has been ranked as one of very few events of such bravery and has been compared to Thermopylae, where a small Greek force faced a large and mighty Persian army of Xerxes (480 BC)."
ryangeary 10:00, 12 February 2007
Ummm ... shouldn't there be a caption to the photo? Was this fellow in the conflict (which is suggested by his appearance in the article) - I expect it is merely a photo of a soldier. Can someone please add an appropriate caption? Thanks, Hu Gadarn 21:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
It helps us all if reviewers can see who has entered comments in the discussion pages. Just use four tildes (~) at the end of your comment and you will get an automatic name/date/time stamp. Thanks, Hu Gadarn 21:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello everyone, I am attempting to give fresh inputs to this article. -- Bhadani 13:57, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
I have developed the article to some extent. -- Bhadani 18:55, 9 May 2005 (UTC) --- Hello i have verified too that there were 21 sikhs including the hawaldar and found out on other pages too. And this site has almost credible information on indian army and is perhaps the only one with extensive info http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/History/1765/Saragarhi.html
What an interesting article!
I have tidied up the English grammar a little to improve readability.
Am new to wiki. Have changed my original question title to make more specific/reflective of question I asked.(Hope this is OK)
Thank you again for your article. Your article inspired me to read further on the subject. With anything I think worthwhile, I always check sources, and that was what lead me to ask about it.
I had hoped to enhance the article by finding the specific link to the UNESCO quote so that others might be able to appreciate and compare the scale of the event. I spent several hours, searching generally, and specifically on the site, but was not successful.
I will read all of the links you have taken the time to give.
Best wishes.
ryangeary 0845, 13 February 2007
Great to find you around. I welcome you and hope to see more edits from you. I thank you for your comments above as such comments add to enhance value of wikipedia by citing sources and giving references. Your insight as a new editor is really remarkable to start wiki-ing with a serious topic (or perhaps you have been already wiki-ing) - in any case, welcome friend! I think that perhaps you could not find any reference as the facts appear incredible to many and so people may not try to search sufficiently. I am giving some links, and in case you have a large library nearby, you may try to locate some books on military history to read a little more than what wikipedia tells about this Battle - several books are available on this Battle :)
And, still there are many other resources including books and magazine in the printed media too. In case, you are interested in the topic and if you have time and inclination, please try to locate few of them and please try to update this wikipedia page. We certainly require editors like you to make this encyclopedia still better. Regards. -- Bhadani 04:39, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
The article seems a bit one sided (not exactly Neutral Point of View) but I've refrained from making any changes to this aspect of it. Redgrittybrick 22:54, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
I agree. For example, this claim should be referenced in the article: "The world received the details of the battle of Saragarhi with awe and admiration." If the world had such a response there must be some sort of record, no? I believe that this sacrifice is worthy or proper referencing otherwise it will be discounted as bumph. Thanks, Hu Gadarn 21:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Also this line, "When the heroic deeds of these valiant soldiers was recounted" hardly seems to be neutral. BTerran 14:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the article. It was a truly heroic effort on the part of the defenders.
I am unable to verify the claim that: "UNESCO has described the Battle of Saragarhi as one of eight stories of collective bravery". Can this be cited?
Similarly, is anybody able to cite at least one respected source to substantiate: "The battle has been ranked as one of very few events of such bravery and has been compared to Thermopylae, where a small Greek force faced a large and mighty Persian army of Xerxes (480 BC)."
ryangeary 10:00, 12 February 2007