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Per the discussion at Talk:Klaipėda Region#Memelland, this article raises the question of what Memel/Memelland should be called during the period 1939-1944/45. Nazi Germany's expansions/annexations from 1937 on are generally considered to be illegal and were officially reversed in various treaties and conferences towards the end of and after WWII. heqs 18:01, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Best to keep this discussion in one place: See Talk:Klaipėda Region#Memel Territory -- PBS 19:36, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
The heading Aftermath, makes absolutely no sense in the continuum of the article, as its written. It should be renamed or replaced, somewhere before the battle. Dr. Dan 18:57, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Put back Aftermath, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history#Article structure. At the moment this article is a stub. It needs paragraphs on the Battle and then there will be more on the tactical situation after the battle. Three sentences on the strategic results of he battle are not out of place, it is just that at the moment because it is a stub they have a prominence that they would not have if the article had more text and it was not a stub. -- PBS 08:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
You are of course entitled to you POV, but to the victor the spoils --20:37, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't Memel Offensive be enough for a name? Memel Offensive Operation sounds to me a bit like a pleonasm.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 06:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
With respect, I don't think you are justified in moving the article back, for the following reasons:
Anyone else have anything to add? Esdrasbarnevelt ( talk) 17:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
As a counter-argument, both David Glantz (in Soviet Military Deception... and elsewhere) and Grigoriy Krivosheev (in Soviet Casualties and Combat Losses in the Twentieth Century) refer to the offensive as the Memel Offensive Operation.
I'm not sure that many other English-language sources refer to it as anything at all, as it's not been covered in great detail other than to mention that Gollnick's corps was isolated there. Esdrasbarnevelt ( talk) 17:35, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
I have reverted the unilateral move by Mrg3105. As I wrote in the history of the article. This is under discussion on the talk page there is no consensus for the move so use WP:RM to request the move to draw in a larger group of editors. Geographic battle names do not need a source, but in this case as a compromise I would consider the move to the "Memel Offensive" until such time that a English language source can be produced that describes the action as "Battle of Memel" or "Siege of Memel" -- PBS ( talk) 08:58, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Seeing as everyone else appears to have settled on the format X Offensive for other similar articles, it seems lgical that this should be renamed "Memel Offensive". Esdrasbarnevelt ( talk) 10:45, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Not true see for example Battle of Berlin -- PBS ( talk) 16:24, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
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Per the discussion at Talk:Klaipėda Region#Memelland, this article raises the question of what Memel/Memelland should be called during the period 1939-1944/45. Nazi Germany's expansions/annexations from 1937 on are generally considered to be illegal and were officially reversed in various treaties and conferences towards the end of and after WWII. heqs 18:01, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Best to keep this discussion in one place: See Talk:Klaipėda Region#Memel Territory -- PBS 19:36, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
The heading Aftermath, makes absolutely no sense in the continuum of the article, as its written. It should be renamed or replaced, somewhere before the battle. Dr. Dan 18:57, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Put back Aftermath, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history#Article structure. At the moment this article is a stub. It needs paragraphs on the Battle and then there will be more on the tactical situation after the battle. Three sentences on the strategic results of he battle are not out of place, it is just that at the moment because it is a stub they have a prominence that they would not have if the article had more text and it was not a stub. -- PBS 08:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
You are of course entitled to you POV, but to the victor the spoils --20:37, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't Memel Offensive be enough for a name? Memel Offensive Operation sounds to me a bit like a pleonasm.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 06:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
With respect, I don't think you are justified in moving the article back, for the following reasons:
Anyone else have anything to add? Esdrasbarnevelt ( talk) 17:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
As a counter-argument, both David Glantz (in Soviet Military Deception... and elsewhere) and Grigoriy Krivosheev (in Soviet Casualties and Combat Losses in the Twentieth Century) refer to the offensive as the Memel Offensive Operation.
I'm not sure that many other English-language sources refer to it as anything at all, as it's not been covered in great detail other than to mention that Gollnick's corps was isolated there. Esdrasbarnevelt ( talk) 17:35, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
I have reverted the unilateral move by Mrg3105. As I wrote in the history of the article. This is under discussion on the talk page there is no consensus for the move so use WP:RM to request the move to draw in a larger group of editors. Geographic battle names do not need a source, but in this case as a compromise I would consider the move to the "Memel Offensive" until such time that a English language source can be produced that describes the action as "Battle of Memel" or "Siege of Memel" -- PBS ( talk) 08:58, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Seeing as everyone else appears to have settled on the format X Offensive for other similar articles, it seems lgical that this should be renamed "Memel Offensive". Esdrasbarnevelt ( talk) 10:45, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Not true see for example Battle of Berlin -- PBS ( talk) 16:24, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
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