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What is the source of the English and Hebrew spelling for the location name? I can't find any English source or map that says anything about this location, but the first word should probably be Marsa. In Hebrew, one source I have says מארסה תלמאת. Not a big difference, but I hope someone introduces the Arabic spelling so we can judge for ourselves what is correct. -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 12:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I agree, the Hebrew name can be removed. -- Omrim ( talk) 15:42, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Ras Sudr is nearly 40 kilometers from the Suez. What I understand from the Yom Kippur War article is that the MIM-23 HAWK, the AA system used by the Israelis, had a range of 25 kilometers, and knowing that Egyptian commandos held the Ras Sudr Pass throughout the war (preventing Israeli units from advancing north). Now could it be explained how the Israelis managed to deprive the Egyptian Third Army of air support? Sherif9282 ( talk) 22:21, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
The furthest south Third Army got was Uyun Musa. When an infantry brigade tried to advance further south, it left the protection of the SAM missiles, and was hit by the Israeli Air Force, forcing it to retreat. The thing is, Uyun Musa is still more than 30 kilometers away from Ras Sudr, which keeps it considerably out of Israeli SAM range. There must be a mistake with the information stated on the article.
Even if, somehow, some of the Third Army's southern units were under Israeli SAM range and hence deprived of air support, what about the rest of Third Army's units, some positioned more than a hundred kilometers north of Ras Sudr. If you do manage to prove that a portion of Third Army was deprived of air support as a result of Israeli SAMs, you have to be specific about the position of the Third Army units. Sherif9282 ( talk) 06:19, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Shazly is my reference. Goerge Gawrych says the same thing more or less, but I don't have the page number right now. How shall I include my point in the article? Sherif9282 ( talk) 20:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I am a native speaker of Arabic. The first part should read Marsa. Just replace the e for an a. As for the second part of the name, I'm not sure, I never heard of that place before, but I would go for Talamat. That's what I think it should be: Marsa Talamat. I'll make my own changes to the article later. Thanks. Sherif9282 ( talk) 21:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
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What is the source of the English and Hebrew spelling for the location name? I can't find any English source or map that says anything about this location, but the first word should probably be Marsa. In Hebrew, one source I have says מארסה תלמאת. Not a big difference, but I hope someone introduces the Arabic spelling so we can judge for ourselves what is correct. -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 12:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I agree, the Hebrew name can be removed. -- Omrim ( talk) 15:42, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Ras Sudr is nearly 40 kilometers from the Suez. What I understand from the Yom Kippur War article is that the MIM-23 HAWK, the AA system used by the Israelis, had a range of 25 kilometers, and knowing that Egyptian commandos held the Ras Sudr Pass throughout the war (preventing Israeli units from advancing north). Now could it be explained how the Israelis managed to deprive the Egyptian Third Army of air support? Sherif9282 ( talk) 22:21, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
The furthest south Third Army got was Uyun Musa. When an infantry brigade tried to advance further south, it left the protection of the SAM missiles, and was hit by the Israeli Air Force, forcing it to retreat. The thing is, Uyun Musa is still more than 30 kilometers away from Ras Sudr, which keeps it considerably out of Israeli SAM range. There must be a mistake with the information stated on the article.
Even if, somehow, some of the Third Army's southern units were under Israeli SAM range and hence deprived of air support, what about the rest of Third Army's units, some positioned more than a hundred kilometers north of Ras Sudr. If you do manage to prove that a portion of Third Army was deprived of air support as a result of Israeli SAMs, you have to be specific about the position of the Third Army units. Sherif9282 ( talk) 06:19, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Shazly is my reference. Goerge Gawrych says the same thing more or less, but I don't have the page number right now. How shall I include my point in the article? Sherif9282 ( talk) 20:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I am a native speaker of Arabic. The first part should read Marsa. Just replace the e for an a. As for the second part of the name, I'm not sure, I never heard of that place before, but I would go for Talamat. That's what I think it should be: Marsa Talamat. I'll make my own changes to the article later. Thanks. Sherif9282 ( talk) 21:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
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