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The Encyclopaedia of Islam states that Köse Dağ is a “land-corridor some 50 miles/80 km. to the north-west of Sīwās” and, under “Kaykhusraw II” in the same work, “between Erzindjan and Sivas.” Cahen in Pre-Ottoman Turkey locates the battle in “the defile of Köse Dagh, in the province of Erzinjān.” My cherished Turkish atlas, Köy Köy Türkiye: Yol atlası (Istanbul 2006), puts Kösedağ Geçidi (Köse Dağ Pass) to the south of Gümüşhane and well to the north of Erzincan. In 13th century terms, this would be close to the lands of the Empire of Trebizond and nowhere near the caravan route between Sivas and Erzincan. Can anyone produce a credible source in any language that offers more precision? Thanks Aramgar 16:25, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I have removed this section from the article. If someone can adduce a source, it can be easily restored. Aramgar 18:49, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Source is Larousse as i have also read it. I will find more and complete the topic as i remember the forces were 30 000 sultanate of rum against 15 000 tatars —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.100.208.79 ( talk) 17:10, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Ensured that the article is within project scope, tagged for task forces, and assessed for class. -- Rosiestep ( talk) 21:29, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
The source "Л.Н.Гумилев - Чёрная легенда" added by User:Enerelt ( diff) seems to be the following: Gumilev, L. N. (Lev Nikolaevich), Chernai'a' legenda : druz'i'a' i nedrugi Velikoĭ stepi (Moscow: Aĭris Press, 2003). I am not so parochial as to expect every source on en.wikipedia to be in English but would like a second opinion on this one. Lev Gumilev seems to have had some strange ideas, and I am curious to know how he came to the numbers he does, as the primary sources say very little about troop strength. Aramgar ( talk) 16:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Anatolian turks had raided Georgia and Armenia first before 1242.-- Enerelt ( talk) 01:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Ok. As you wish. -- Enerelt ( talk) 00:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Is the Armenian name of the site relevant in some significant way? I propose the removal of it for the sake of brevity.-- Eleman ( talk) 19:51, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
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The Encyclopaedia of Islam states that Köse Dağ is a “land-corridor some 50 miles/80 km. to the north-west of Sīwās” and, under “Kaykhusraw II” in the same work, “between Erzindjan and Sivas.” Cahen in Pre-Ottoman Turkey locates the battle in “the defile of Köse Dagh, in the province of Erzinjān.” My cherished Turkish atlas, Köy Köy Türkiye: Yol atlası (Istanbul 2006), puts Kösedağ Geçidi (Köse Dağ Pass) to the south of Gümüşhane and well to the north of Erzincan. In 13th century terms, this would be close to the lands of the Empire of Trebizond and nowhere near the caravan route between Sivas and Erzincan. Can anyone produce a credible source in any language that offers more precision? Thanks Aramgar 16:25, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I have removed this section from the article. If someone can adduce a source, it can be easily restored. Aramgar 18:49, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Source is Larousse as i have also read it. I will find more and complete the topic as i remember the forces were 30 000 sultanate of rum against 15 000 tatars —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.100.208.79 ( talk) 17:10, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Ensured that the article is within project scope, tagged for task forces, and assessed for class. -- Rosiestep ( talk) 21:29, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
The source "Л.Н.Гумилев - Чёрная легенда" added by User:Enerelt ( diff) seems to be the following: Gumilev, L. N. (Lev Nikolaevich), Chernai'a' legenda : druz'i'a' i nedrugi Velikoĭ stepi (Moscow: Aĭris Press, 2003). I am not so parochial as to expect every source on en.wikipedia to be in English but would like a second opinion on this one. Lev Gumilev seems to have had some strange ideas, and I am curious to know how he came to the numbers he does, as the primary sources say very little about troop strength. Aramgar ( talk) 16:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Anatolian turks had raided Georgia and Armenia first before 1242.-- Enerelt ( talk) 01:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Ok. As you wish. -- Enerelt ( talk) 00:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Is the Armenian name of the site relevant in some significant way? I propose the removal of it for the sake of brevity.-- Eleman ( talk) 19:51, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
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