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Checked the footnote on Tom Mix's participation. It describes him as a 'future' Hollywood star. The IMDB lists him in at least two movies in 1912. Doubt he commuted between Hollywood and the Mexican Revolution. Unless challenged/refuted intend to remove picture and citation Tapered ( talk) 08:28, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Someone is going to need to go McLynn's book, research his bibliography, and get back to the article. This strikes me as a waste of time. Mix did have the opportunity to visit Juarez. Documented. He had a history of self-invention and fabrication. Documented. Given his peripheral importance to the battle, the effort to verify his participation seems like a lot of effort. Perhaps the author of the article will be so kind as to remove the reference to Mix. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tapered ( talk • contribs) 21:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
To paraphrase what I said @ radek ( talk), Archive 3, the citation that McLynn uses to include Mix in his book would not be acceptable as any sort of historical verification. Since McLynn is accepted here @ Wikipedia as a reliable source, Mix's inclusion in the article will remain. I've actually corresponded w/ one of the leading experts on Mix, and there is not enough information available to pinpoint Mix's location during the battle. I'm not going to THINK about contacting McLynn on this matter--I'm sure he'd be glad to admit that he's made a mistake to an ordinary Wikipedia editor. (-;(-; HOWEVER, I do propose to delete Mix's PICTURE from the article. All the other pictures are scenes from the battle or major players in the battle, or both. Mix's photo is tangential to the main topic, and can be considered off-topic--diverting attention from the main narrative. Tapered ( talk) 00:43, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps there is relevant information available at the Tom Mix Museum? (Note the last paragraph of that piece, for what it's worth.) See also here. Newyorkbrad ( talk) 04:33, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
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Did you know?" column on
February 21, 2010. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that
the grandson of
Giuseppe Garibaldi, the
Boer general
Ben Viljoen, and future
Hollywood
Western star
Tom Mix (pictured) fought for the rebel army in the
Battle of Ciudad Juárez, part of the
Mexican Revolution? |
This article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Checked the footnote on Tom Mix's participation. It describes him as a 'future' Hollywood star. The IMDB lists him in at least two movies in 1912. Doubt he commuted between Hollywood and the Mexican Revolution. Unless challenged/refuted intend to remove picture and citation Tapered ( talk) 08:28, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Someone is going to need to go McLynn's book, research his bibliography, and get back to the article. This strikes me as a waste of time. Mix did have the opportunity to visit Juarez. Documented. He had a history of self-invention and fabrication. Documented. Given his peripheral importance to the battle, the effort to verify his participation seems like a lot of effort. Perhaps the author of the article will be so kind as to remove the reference to Mix. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tapered ( talk • contribs) 21:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
To paraphrase what I said @ radek ( talk), Archive 3, the citation that McLynn uses to include Mix in his book would not be acceptable as any sort of historical verification. Since McLynn is accepted here @ Wikipedia as a reliable source, Mix's inclusion in the article will remain. I've actually corresponded w/ one of the leading experts on Mix, and there is not enough information available to pinpoint Mix's location during the battle. I'm not going to THINK about contacting McLynn on this matter--I'm sure he'd be glad to admit that he's made a mistake to an ordinary Wikipedia editor. (-;(-; HOWEVER, I do propose to delete Mix's PICTURE from the article. All the other pictures are scenes from the battle or major players in the battle, or both. Mix's photo is tangential to the main topic, and can be considered off-topic--diverting attention from the main narrative. Tapered ( talk) 00:43, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps there is relevant information available at the Tom Mix Museum? (Note the last paragraph of that piece, for what it's worth.) See also here. Newyorkbrad ( talk) 04:33, 10 December 2012 (UTC)