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The article seems to have an overtly Vietnamese nationalistic tone. No reliable references have been provided to support some of the opinions in the article and it is clear from the contents of this article that it is designed to promote ethnic hatred. David873 ( talk) 12:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Where exactly is the Bạch Đằng River? Does it still exist today? Where exactly did the battle occur? Badagnani ( talk) 00:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, so, in Quang Ninh Province? Is there a vi:WP article on the river? We should add as much detail as we can to the article, and perhaps make an article on the river. Badagnani ( talk) 00:42, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Sentences just removed need to be evaluated for inclusion:
These would seem to be important, first because dynastic China attacked Vietnam again and again, and the Southern Han perhaps multiple times; and the second, if true, seems important as well.
Badagnani ( talk) 01:31, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
That was quick! Non-English sources may be used, if they're reliable. David873, I agree that your other edits, making the text NPOV, were good. Badagnani ( talk) 01:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
English source here. Badagnani ( talk) 01:59, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Someone went berserk with the "fact/citation/reference needed" insertions. It makes the article almost impossible to read with any fluency at all. The notion at the beginning is more than enough. You don't need to mark every sentence! 85.200.102.184 ( talk) 06:54, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I was just reading this page when I got to the Significance section and was puzzled by this part:
In the first century CE, the population of Han's empire was over 57 million. At the time the population of Vietnam was just over 1 million. After the conquest of Vietnam, the Han Dynasty limited Vietnamese national sovereignty, exploiting the people, scavenging the treasures of Vietnam and sought to assimilate the Vietnamese people, annexing the lands into China. The Chinese assimilation plan is a feature of Han expansionism, was used from the Han's Dynasty to the Tang
I'm not sure whether the assimilation plans of 1st century CE Han Dynasty has anything to do with the Southern Han, a 10th Century Chinese Kingdom that has little to none continuity with the 1st century Han Dynasty and I am quite puzzled by this inclusion here.
70.79.164.194 ( talk) 06:21, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
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@ Laska666:, out of curiosity, could you please explain this edit? Was it factually inaccurate? -- Donald Trung ( talk) 21:17, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
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The article seems to have an overtly Vietnamese nationalistic tone. No reliable references have been provided to support some of the opinions in the article and it is clear from the contents of this article that it is designed to promote ethnic hatred. David873 ( talk) 12:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Where exactly is the Bạch Đằng River? Does it still exist today? Where exactly did the battle occur? Badagnani ( talk) 00:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, so, in Quang Ninh Province? Is there a vi:WP article on the river? We should add as much detail as we can to the article, and perhaps make an article on the river. Badagnani ( talk) 00:42, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Sentences just removed need to be evaluated for inclusion:
These would seem to be important, first because dynastic China attacked Vietnam again and again, and the Southern Han perhaps multiple times; and the second, if true, seems important as well.
Badagnani ( talk) 01:31, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
That was quick! Non-English sources may be used, if they're reliable. David873, I agree that your other edits, making the text NPOV, were good. Badagnani ( talk) 01:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
English source here. Badagnani ( talk) 01:59, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Someone went berserk with the "fact/citation/reference needed" insertions. It makes the article almost impossible to read with any fluency at all. The notion at the beginning is more than enough. You don't need to mark every sentence! 85.200.102.184 ( talk) 06:54, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I was just reading this page when I got to the Significance section and was puzzled by this part:
In the first century CE, the population of Han's empire was over 57 million. At the time the population of Vietnam was just over 1 million. After the conquest of Vietnam, the Han Dynasty limited Vietnamese national sovereignty, exploiting the people, scavenging the treasures of Vietnam and sought to assimilate the Vietnamese people, annexing the lands into China. The Chinese assimilation plan is a feature of Han expansionism, was used from the Han's Dynasty to the Tang
I'm not sure whether the assimilation plans of 1st century CE Han Dynasty has anything to do with the Southern Han, a 10th Century Chinese Kingdom that has little to none continuity with the 1st century Han Dynasty and I am quite puzzled by this inclusion here.
70.79.164.194 ( talk) 06:21, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 03:53, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
@ Laska666:, out of curiosity, could you please explain this edit? Was it factually inaccurate? -- Donald Trung ( talk) 21:17, 18 September 2021 (UTC)