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This title seems kinda frivolous and inappropriate. Could we get something more encyclopedic? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.59.128.48 ( talk) 23:55, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
The description of the battle does use emotionally descriptive terms. Is this the accepted style? --
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-- Diablorex 16:39, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
??? UberCryxic 19:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
The 'Aftermath' states there were 180 cannons captured, yet Napoleon's speech states they captured 120 artillery pieces. Which is it?
-- 24.72.119.125 21:19, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Perhaps Napoleon's speech would have been more percise; It placed the number lower. NapoleonAlanparte 11:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
why does the article say "American" general Kutuzov?
Just check the history - it happened several times in past days. Now - 10/12 at 14.09 GMT - it is OK, it is repaired. User:Radoneme
From the article "Austerldiitz (the modern town of Slavkov u Brna in the Czech Republic)...". Is this vandalization too? Saigon from europe 18:44, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
There are some myths and stories about the battle included in the article - one of which is:
"Another story features an unfortunate French soldier running from Cossacks; apparently, the soldier climbed through a chimney trying to hide, but the Cossacks found and killed him anyway."
Is something missing from this? It seems like a pretty ordinary event from a battle at this time - a guy runs away, tries to hide, gets killed. Ok, it's a chimney - but still it seems a bit pointless Gardar Rurak 00:43, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I've heard a few legends about the Coalition defeat causing the fervently anti-Bonaparte British PM William Pitt the Younger to die of a broken heart. In reality, the stress of the defeat did contribute to Pitt's failing health. Would it be worth mentioning this in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.31.7.6 ( talk) 01:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I made some minor changes, inserting the Czech name Slavkov u Brno and the German name Brünn, clarifying historic and modern place names. Sca 14:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
The naming should be consistent, It should be Slavkov u Brna(Austerlitz) and Brno(Brünn). First being an official name in Czech and English language. Austerlitz and Brunn is in German. The name of the battle shouldn't be changed as "Battle of Austerlitz" is a common name. Also the place of the battle should be "Slavkov u Brna, Czech Republic" to conform with contemporary English name for the place. (the same case as for battles which took place in contemporary Germany for instance) ( 194.212.194.194 16:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC))
I second the above comment. It looks absolutely bizarre to me to see all these German place names. It's like seeing an article in English in which the US is referred to as "Die Vereinigten Staten" Does wikipedia have a place naming standard? I don't even see why it should be necessary to include the germanized names at all, except for cases like 'Austerlitz' and 'Brünn'. 209.6.22.185 ( talk) 19:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Wow....that vandal is funny and has an active imagination.-- 64.121.1.55 23:41, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I couldnt revert it, could some one please revert the obvious vandalism.-- 64.121.1.55 05:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Someone already fixed it.-- 64.121.1.55 23:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I cite from article: "The battle took place at Austerlitz (Slavkov u Brna) about 6.5 km (four miles) east of Brünn (Brno) in Moravia." If you look at the map, you see the battle took place between Brno and Slavkov. In fact, centers of Brno and Slavkov are more than 20 kms far away (I guess some 28 kms, but I do not remember precisely). As the military actions took place on large area, this characterization (6.5 km from Brno) seems to be very unprecise and perhaps even wrong. -- Ruziklan 21:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Wasn't Kutuzov commander of coalition forces at Austerlitz?-- Staberinde 12:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Why did the battle occur in the first place??
Someone answer. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.42.21.81 ( talk) 04:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC).
I live in the village of Prace, below the Pratzen Heights, and I can assure you it is much more than 40 feet high ! I will find out it's true height as soon as I can and get back to you.
62.92.82.7 15:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry dude, but look at Google Earth. The Prätzen height is not really high.
In battles back then, some minor hills could be the difference between victory or defeat.
-- Arsaces ( talk) 11:43, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
"Napoleon redirected his gunners to fire at the ice. The men drowned in the viciously cold ponds... Many regard this incident as one of Napoleon's cruelest acts in war."
It's a referenced statement so I'm not disputing it or anything (not sure about the "many" part though, who?)... just found it rather an odd point of view, that drowning fleeing enemies is somehow more cruel than shooting them in the back and leaving them to bleed to death or tearing them apart with shrapnel. One way to look at it is that both drowning and freezing are relatively peaceful ways to go, their bodies would have been releasing endorphins. Not that I'm suggesting it was in any way merciful, just, doesn't really seem more cruel than regular war, just a tad more creative. 121.45.189.3 15:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Well I guess the cruelty is that all these soldiers on pond were just fleeing the battle trying to save their lives as the battle was basicly over. Interesting is that according to official report of Austrian army only two soldiers drowned there and same states local chronicles ( 3 soldiers ), when the pond was cleaned afterwads they found only horses and cannons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.100.4.188 ( talk) 18:16, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
I haven't looked at the discussions here, but could we not put "End of Holy Roman Empire" as a Result in the campaign box? Also, under combatants, the Holy Roman Empire could be placed, couldn't it? Tourskin 23:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
The number of troops in artical is different from the number in the map. Which one is correct? Also I thought Napoleon was outnumbered in this battle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NineBlade ( talk • contribs) 22:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
the wikisource link (in the 'aftermath' section) is broken... might i recommend changing to 'Proclamation after the Battle of Austerlitz' 24.224.147.37 ( talk) 23:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Someone who knows what horse artillery is and what it does may want to fix this sentence in the "One Sharp Blow" section: "The horse artillery of the Guard also unlimbered a deadly toll on the Russian cavalry and fusiliers." The dictionary says you can unlimber a gun, whatever that means, and you can exact a toll of course. I'd change the sentence myself but I don't think I could guess what the author wants to say. Wegesrand ( talk) 10:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
The WIKIPEDIA article on comissions purchase states that Russian Prussian armies never had custom of comissions purchasing - therefore corrections are needed.....
Andrey —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.138.40.173 ( talk) 06:03, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
A PBS Special, made by David Machullah, can be found on youtube @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e34HS6cmneA&feature=related, says that it was over 9,000.... SteveSmithIIV ( talk) 15:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes this is ridiculous. This number is out of the imagination Francophobe (many in the United Kingdom and the United States or one like it "break" in French) - Swax, 01:02 09/02/2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.67.81.143 ( talk) 00:03, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Official French army report says 1389 dead and 7260 wounded soldiers that is in total loss of 8649 (as among losses are usually counted all dead and wounded), but than French propaganda says only around 1800 wounded, dont forget that history is written by winners so most of the numbers and statistics are coming from French side sometime directly from Napoleon himself. There is legend that one of the French officers asked Wienna citizens why they are preparing so many beds after battle (10000 by order of French army) and he was given reply "these 10000 beds are for your 1800 wounded soldiers"
Can somone explain this conversation:
Alexander I: What are you doing, Kutuzov !? Kutuzov: I am waiting for the other units to gathered in full number. Alexander I: This place is not the Tsaritsyn Square where the units gathered in full number in a military parade ! Kutuzov: Your Majesty, because this is not the Tsaritsyn Square that I am waiting for the other units to gathered in full number. And if Your Majesty ordered...
I'm missing a point...-- VuXman talk 14:01, 4 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serbianboy ( talk • contribs)
Somewhere in the article, before the battle commences, Murat is introduced rather abruptly:
...instructed the Allied Army to accept Murat's ceasefire proposal so that the allied army could have more time to retreat. Napoleon soon realized Murat's mistakes ...
Perhaps someone could explain what Murat had proposed and where he blundered? Right now, the allusion is a bit incomprehensible. -- Syzygy ( talk) 08:54, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Does any user know which units of the second (Langeron's) and fourth (Miloradovich and Kollowrath's) columns were engaged in the firefight on the Pratzen heights, at the moment when Soult's corps attacked the Russian centre? Guard Chasseur ( talk) 17:51, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
"The battle was a tactical masterpiece of the same stature as the ancient battles of Gaugamela and Cannae, in the 4th and 3rd centuries BC" - the citation for this doesn't give a page number, and seems to be stating it as fact when I believe that such a statement is the assessment of a certain historian, and likely to be a matter of much debate - therefore shouldn't it read "the battle has been cited by X, Y [et al.] to be a tactical masterpiece of the same stature as the ancient battles of Gaugamela and Cannae, in the 4th and 3rd centuries BC." What is more, the citation is for something called "Encyclopedia of warfare"... is there a better citation or a more renowned historian/source to quote? I didn't want to spoil a FA by sprinkling "attribution needed" tags all over it. Any thoughts? -- S.G.(GH) ping! 15:00, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
If the article is going to refer to the 'legendary Sun of Austerlitz', shouldn't it at least explain what that is and why it's so legendary? -- 2.105.139.62 ( talk) 16:01, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
As it's written on the main article the Allies had four columns to attack the French right flank. But when Soult's IV Corps assaulted the Pratzen hights they fought some of the delayed detatchments of the Russian IV Corps and destroyed them. As you let us to understand the IV Corps was the fourth attacking column and after its destruction it is written that the French also enacountered some of the detatchments of the Second Column which forced them to withdraw to the slopes. How is that possible? I mean those Allied forces that forced the French back before they were counter-attacked by Saint-Hilaire's division must be logically detatchments of the THIRD column or I have misunderstood something with their deployment. Can somone give me a specific explanation about this?
What does "This battle is one of four that Napoleon never awarded a victory title, the others being Marengo, Jena, and Friedland" mean? Myrvin ( talk) 18:43, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
This [1] says that N gave his marshals titles of many of his other battles, but kept Austerlitz for himself. Not that I understand what that means either. I can't see the other battles mentioned. Myrvin ( talk) 18:51, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
The article victory title makes some sense of this. The present article seems to be saying that, for each of his victories apart from the four named ones, he gave a title, based on the battle, to one of his marshals. Myrvin ( talk) 19:09, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
The lede has been vandalized. Carlotm ( talk) 21:42, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
It is quite bizarre to not include Davout's III corps in the table especially as they contributed significantly to the battle. The actual number should be 75,000 men as accurately estimated by Robert Goetz in his dedicated military history of the battle of Austerlitz. So why on earth are Davout's men not included in the count? Parsa1993 ( talk) 05:26, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Why does it list the Coalition dead and wounded as one big number, "16,000", but then gives the French dead and wounded separately, "1,305 dead, 6,940 wounded". I gives the impression of smaller numbers then simply writing "8,245 dead and wounded", which the reader can instantly see is roughly half the number, without having to do mental arithmetic. Giving two numbers, one in the "1,000" range and one in the "6,000" range seems to have a similar effect as writing "$9.99" instead of "$10.00" (a tactic which is proven to work). The only time the total numbers are given is when the captured are included into the count as well, which gives an even greater impression of disparity. Which, undoubtedly there was, I just think it should be as transparent as possible. AnnaGoFast ( talk) 14:01, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
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This Featured article was promoted in 2006, and is not at FA standards. There is a good deal of uncited text, unresolved questions on talk, and a MOS review is needed. Unless someone is willing/able to bring this article to standard, it should be submitted to Featured article review. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 00:19, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Is there any reason why the infobox uses a non-standard term ("decisive")?
Template:Infobox military conflict says the result field that this parameter may use one of two standard terms: "X victory" or "Inconclusive" . . . Do not introduce non-standard terms like "decisive", "marginal" or "tactical", or contradictory statements like "decisive tactical victory but strategic defeat"
. I can't see any reason why this should be ignored, so perhaps some consensus can be formed so any future disruption can be nipped in the bud.
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There is simply no reason to not include it since the term is inconsistent and judging from the accomplishments, it should be considered a decisive considering the fact that many similar articles use said non-standard terms. Then again, I'm still new so maybe I'm missing something. SuperSkaterDude45 ( talk) 10:06, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
As everyone else's ranks are given, Horace Sébastiani looks a bit lonely. Based on the chronology on his page, he would have pretty unambiguously been a général de brigade; he'd received that grade in 1803, and was promoted to général de division immediately after Austerlitz. I can't see that this edit is contested, so I'm going ahead and adding it in. ThirdEchelon ( talk) 03:07, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
I believe that the ranks of the Generals and leaders should be removed and brought in line with usual representations of battles, by possibly implementing a system similar to
Battle of Leipzig or
Battle of Borodino since it just presents unnecessary information and clutters the infobox.
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Please note that Template:Infobox military conflict#Parameters states against "result" that "this parameter may use one of two standard terms: "X victory" or "Inconclusive"." The infobox has been amended to reflect this. Please read the template "result" guidance in full before amending or reverting. It would probably be best to discuss any proposed change here first to seek consensus. Thanks. Gog the Mild ( talk) 17:29, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
I wonder if Johann I Joseph, Prince of Liechtenstein should be considered under the participants of Liechtenstein, rather than Austria? Given that he was the prince at the time, and Liechtensteiner troops fought in the battle, albeit under the command of Austrian leaders. I just feel as if it should be mentioned somewhere. TheBritinator ( talk) 16:26, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
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This title seems kinda frivolous and inappropriate. Could we get something more encyclopedic? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.59.128.48 ( talk) 23:55, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
The description of the battle does use emotionally descriptive terms. Is this the accepted style? --
Armulwp (
talk)
21:53, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
-- Diablorex 16:39, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
??? UberCryxic 19:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
The 'Aftermath' states there were 180 cannons captured, yet Napoleon's speech states they captured 120 artillery pieces. Which is it?
-- 24.72.119.125 21:19, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Perhaps Napoleon's speech would have been more percise; It placed the number lower. NapoleonAlanparte 11:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
why does the article say "American" general Kutuzov?
Just check the history - it happened several times in past days. Now - 10/12 at 14.09 GMT - it is OK, it is repaired. User:Radoneme
From the article "Austerldiitz (the modern town of Slavkov u Brna in the Czech Republic)...". Is this vandalization too? Saigon from europe 18:44, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
There are some myths and stories about the battle included in the article - one of which is:
"Another story features an unfortunate French soldier running from Cossacks; apparently, the soldier climbed through a chimney trying to hide, but the Cossacks found and killed him anyway."
Is something missing from this? It seems like a pretty ordinary event from a battle at this time - a guy runs away, tries to hide, gets killed. Ok, it's a chimney - but still it seems a bit pointless Gardar Rurak 00:43, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I've heard a few legends about the Coalition defeat causing the fervently anti-Bonaparte British PM William Pitt the Younger to die of a broken heart. In reality, the stress of the defeat did contribute to Pitt's failing health. Would it be worth mentioning this in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.31.7.6 ( talk) 01:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I made some minor changes, inserting the Czech name Slavkov u Brno and the German name Brünn, clarifying historic and modern place names. Sca 14:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
The naming should be consistent, It should be Slavkov u Brna(Austerlitz) and Brno(Brünn). First being an official name in Czech and English language. Austerlitz and Brunn is in German. The name of the battle shouldn't be changed as "Battle of Austerlitz" is a common name. Also the place of the battle should be "Slavkov u Brna, Czech Republic" to conform with contemporary English name for the place. (the same case as for battles which took place in contemporary Germany for instance) ( 194.212.194.194 16:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC))
I second the above comment. It looks absolutely bizarre to me to see all these German place names. It's like seeing an article in English in which the US is referred to as "Die Vereinigten Staten" Does wikipedia have a place naming standard? I don't even see why it should be necessary to include the germanized names at all, except for cases like 'Austerlitz' and 'Brünn'. 209.6.22.185 ( talk) 19:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Wow....that vandal is funny and has an active imagination.-- 64.121.1.55 23:41, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I couldnt revert it, could some one please revert the obvious vandalism.-- 64.121.1.55 05:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Someone already fixed it.-- 64.121.1.55 23:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I cite from article: "The battle took place at Austerlitz (Slavkov u Brna) about 6.5 km (four miles) east of Brünn (Brno) in Moravia." If you look at the map, you see the battle took place between Brno and Slavkov. In fact, centers of Brno and Slavkov are more than 20 kms far away (I guess some 28 kms, but I do not remember precisely). As the military actions took place on large area, this characterization (6.5 km from Brno) seems to be very unprecise and perhaps even wrong. -- Ruziklan 21:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Wasn't Kutuzov commander of coalition forces at Austerlitz?-- Staberinde 12:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Why did the battle occur in the first place??
Someone answer. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.42.21.81 ( talk) 04:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC).
I live in the village of Prace, below the Pratzen Heights, and I can assure you it is much more than 40 feet high ! I will find out it's true height as soon as I can and get back to you.
62.92.82.7 15:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry dude, but look at Google Earth. The Prätzen height is not really high.
In battles back then, some minor hills could be the difference between victory or defeat.
-- Arsaces ( talk) 11:43, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
"Napoleon redirected his gunners to fire at the ice. The men drowned in the viciously cold ponds... Many regard this incident as one of Napoleon's cruelest acts in war."
It's a referenced statement so I'm not disputing it or anything (not sure about the "many" part though, who?)... just found it rather an odd point of view, that drowning fleeing enemies is somehow more cruel than shooting them in the back and leaving them to bleed to death or tearing them apart with shrapnel. One way to look at it is that both drowning and freezing are relatively peaceful ways to go, their bodies would have been releasing endorphins. Not that I'm suggesting it was in any way merciful, just, doesn't really seem more cruel than regular war, just a tad more creative. 121.45.189.3 15:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Well I guess the cruelty is that all these soldiers on pond were just fleeing the battle trying to save their lives as the battle was basicly over. Interesting is that according to official report of Austrian army only two soldiers drowned there and same states local chronicles ( 3 soldiers ), when the pond was cleaned afterwads they found only horses and cannons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.100.4.188 ( talk) 18:16, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
I haven't looked at the discussions here, but could we not put "End of Holy Roman Empire" as a Result in the campaign box? Also, under combatants, the Holy Roman Empire could be placed, couldn't it? Tourskin 23:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
The number of troops in artical is different from the number in the map. Which one is correct? Also I thought Napoleon was outnumbered in this battle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NineBlade ( talk • contribs) 22:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
the wikisource link (in the 'aftermath' section) is broken... might i recommend changing to 'Proclamation after the Battle of Austerlitz' 24.224.147.37 ( talk) 23:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Someone who knows what horse artillery is and what it does may want to fix this sentence in the "One Sharp Blow" section: "The horse artillery of the Guard also unlimbered a deadly toll on the Russian cavalry and fusiliers." The dictionary says you can unlimber a gun, whatever that means, and you can exact a toll of course. I'd change the sentence myself but I don't think I could guess what the author wants to say. Wegesrand ( talk) 10:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
The WIKIPEDIA article on comissions purchase states that Russian Prussian armies never had custom of comissions purchasing - therefore corrections are needed.....
Andrey —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.138.40.173 ( talk) 06:03, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
A PBS Special, made by David Machullah, can be found on youtube @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e34HS6cmneA&feature=related, says that it was over 9,000.... SteveSmithIIV ( talk) 15:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes this is ridiculous. This number is out of the imagination Francophobe (many in the United Kingdom and the United States or one like it "break" in French) - Swax, 01:02 09/02/2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.67.81.143 ( talk) 00:03, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Official French army report says 1389 dead and 7260 wounded soldiers that is in total loss of 8649 (as among losses are usually counted all dead and wounded), but than French propaganda says only around 1800 wounded, dont forget that history is written by winners so most of the numbers and statistics are coming from French side sometime directly from Napoleon himself. There is legend that one of the French officers asked Wienna citizens why they are preparing so many beds after battle (10000 by order of French army) and he was given reply "these 10000 beds are for your 1800 wounded soldiers"
Can somone explain this conversation:
Alexander I: What are you doing, Kutuzov !? Kutuzov: I am waiting for the other units to gathered in full number. Alexander I: This place is not the Tsaritsyn Square where the units gathered in full number in a military parade ! Kutuzov: Your Majesty, because this is not the Tsaritsyn Square that I am waiting for the other units to gathered in full number. And if Your Majesty ordered...
I'm missing a point...-- VuXman talk 14:01, 4 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serbianboy ( talk • contribs)
Somewhere in the article, before the battle commences, Murat is introduced rather abruptly:
...instructed the Allied Army to accept Murat's ceasefire proposal so that the allied army could have more time to retreat. Napoleon soon realized Murat's mistakes ...
Perhaps someone could explain what Murat had proposed and where he blundered? Right now, the allusion is a bit incomprehensible. -- Syzygy ( talk) 08:54, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Does any user know which units of the second (Langeron's) and fourth (Miloradovich and Kollowrath's) columns were engaged in the firefight on the Pratzen heights, at the moment when Soult's corps attacked the Russian centre? Guard Chasseur ( talk) 17:51, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
"The battle was a tactical masterpiece of the same stature as the ancient battles of Gaugamela and Cannae, in the 4th and 3rd centuries BC" - the citation for this doesn't give a page number, and seems to be stating it as fact when I believe that such a statement is the assessment of a certain historian, and likely to be a matter of much debate - therefore shouldn't it read "the battle has been cited by X, Y [et al.] to be a tactical masterpiece of the same stature as the ancient battles of Gaugamela and Cannae, in the 4th and 3rd centuries BC." What is more, the citation is for something called "Encyclopedia of warfare"... is there a better citation or a more renowned historian/source to quote? I didn't want to spoil a FA by sprinkling "attribution needed" tags all over it. Any thoughts? -- S.G.(GH) ping! 15:00, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
If the article is going to refer to the 'legendary Sun of Austerlitz', shouldn't it at least explain what that is and why it's so legendary? -- 2.105.139.62 ( talk) 16:01, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
As it's written on the main article the Allies had four columns to attack the French right flank. But when Soult's IV Corps assaulted the Pratzen hights they fought some of the delayed detatchments of the Russian IV Corps and destroyed them. As you let us to understand the IV Corps was the fourth attacking column and after its destruction it is written that the French also enacountered some of the detatchments of the Second Column which forced them to withdraw to the slopes. How is that possible? I mean those Allied forces that forced the French back before they were counter-attacked by Saint-Hilaire's division must be logically detatchments of the THIRD column or I have misunderstood something with their deployment. Can somone give me a specific explanation about this?
What does "This battle is one of four that Napoleon never awarded a victory title, the others being Marengo, Jena, and Friedland" mean? Myrvin ( talk) 18:43, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
This [1] says that N gave his marshals titles of many of his other battles, but kept Austerlitz for himself. Not that I understand what that means either. I can't see the other battles mentioned. Myrvin ( talk) 18:51, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
The article victory title makes some sense of this. The present article seems to be saying that, for each of his victories apart from the four named ones, he gave a title, based on the battle, to one of his marshals. Myrvin ( talk) 19:09, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
The lede has been vandalized. Carlotm ( talk) 21:42, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
It is quite bizarre to not include Davout's III corps in the table especially as they contributed significantly to the battle. The actual number should be 75,000 men as accurately estimated by Robert Goetz in his dedicated military history of the battle of Austerlitz. So why on earth are Davout's men not included in the count? Parsa1993 ( talk) 05:26, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Why does it list the Coalition dead and wounded as one big number, "16,000", but then gives the French dead and wounded separately, "1,305 dead, 6,940 wounded". I gives the impression of smaller numbers then simply writing "8,245 dead and wounded", which the reader can instantly see is roughly half the number, without having to do mental arithmetic. Giving two numbers, one in the "1,000" range and one in the "6,000" range seems to have a similar effect as writing "$9.99" instead of "$10.00" (a tactic which is proven to work). The only time the total numbers are given is when the captured are included into the count as well, which gives an even greater impression of disparity. Which, undoubtedly there was, I just think it should be as transparent as possible. AnnaGoFast ( talk) 14:01, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
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This Featured article was promoted in 2006, and is not at FA standards. There is a good deal of uncited text, unresolved questions on talk, and a MOS review is needed. Unless someone is willing/able to bring this article to standard, it should be submitted to Featured article review. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 00:19, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Is there any reason why the infobox uses a non-standard term ("decisive")?
Template:Infobox military conflict says the result field that this parameter may use one of two standard terms: "X victory" or "Inconclusive" . . . Do not introduce non-standard terms like "decisive", "marginal" or "tactical", or contradictory statements like "decisive tactical victory but strategic defeat"
. I can't see any reason why this should be ignored, so perhaps some consensus can be formed so any future disruption can be nipped in the bud.
FDW777 (
talk)
19:21, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
There is simply no reason to not include it since the term is inconsistent and judging from the accomplishments, it should be considered a decisive considering the fact that many similar articles use said non-standard terms. Then again, I'm still new so maybe I'm missing something. SuperSkaterDude45 ( talk) 10:06, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
As everyone else's ranks are given, Horace Sébastiani looks a bit lonely. Based on the chronology on his page, he would have pretty unambiguously been a général de brigade; he'd received that grade in 1803, and was promoted to général de division immediately after Austerlitz. I can't see that this edit is contested, so I'm going ahead and adding it in. ThirdEchelon ( talk) 03:07, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
I believe that the ranks of the Generals and leaders should be removed and brought in line with usual representations of battles, by possibly implementing a system similar to
Battle of Leipzig or
Battle of Borodino since it just presents unnecessary information and clutters the infobox.
Crecy1346 ( talk) 16:32, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Please note that Template:Infobox military conflict#Parameters states against "result" that "this parameter may use one of two standard terms: "X victory" or "Inconclusive"." The infobox has been amended to reflect this. Please read the template "result" guidance in full before amending or reverting. It would probably be best to discuss any proposed change here first to seek consensus. Thanks. Gog the Mild ( talk) 17:29, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
I wonder if Johann I Joseph, Prince of Liechtenstein should be considered under the participants of Liechtenstein, rather than Austria? Given that he was the prince at the time, and Liechtensteiner troops fought in the battle, albeit under the command of Austrian leaders. I just feel as if it should be mentioned somewhere. TheBritinator ( talk) 16:26, 7 February 2024 (UTC)