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sources: [1] [2] [3] Dafranca ( talk) 14:26, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
This article says that according to "Arab diplomatic sources", there are 20,000 rebels fighting in Aleppo. I have no idea about this site, is it reliable? Has that been mentioned anywhere else? If it's reliable, the infobox should be updated. Esn ( talk) 04:51, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
The rebels casualties shouldn't be marked with flags as now... There is FSA flag, but reports aren't specific. For example, vast majority says rebels were killed, and rebels are the jihadists as well, so it is impossible to separate jihadist from FSA casualties. The number of jihadist casualties is simply unrealistic considering their presence in Aleppo. We should remove those flags. -- Wüstenfuchs 21:00, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Now, at this exact moment, heavy clashes are going on between the FSA and the armed groups of the Kurdish PKK in the Ashrafiyeh and Syriac quarters.... I wander how some editors are still insisting to classify the Kurds as a pro-FSA power!-- Preacher lad ( talk) 10:24, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
I checked Preacher Lads' photos on Commons. A lot of the recent photos seem that he claimed to have taken are pictures of places in Armenia, not Aleppo. Care to explain? -- FutureTrillionaire ( talk) 15:28, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Please check out: I took the photos on the spot earlier today, during the offensive of the Jabhat al-Nusra in the New Syriac quarter (al-Zuhoor). Early morning offencive civilian killed by the militants-- Preacher lad ( talk) 16:25, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Well it looks like Preacher lad was telling the truth despite the hostility toward him. Well according to Joshua Landis the guy who broke the story yesterday about the rebel advances. The government has taken back the neighbourhoods by the evening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhvfRJ43JLE&sns=tw
There is also video of people in Aleppo celebrating the arrival of the Syrian Soldiers. The fact that this many civilians are out at this time of the day without fear suggests that the rebels were kicked out and never had full control of these areas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1-RGIWMLlU&feature=plcp 62.31.145.100 ( talk) 11:16, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Its clear today that the army intervened and relatively easily pushed out the rebels from districts that the residents are clearly proAssad. Its also clear that Kurdish militia clash directly with the rebels and push them back, under their doctrine of neutrality for their areas. Also the Armenian area was confirmed clear as Preacher told us. It will be nice if we have more reports from him, even if they are not verified immediately, to have the picture.-- Dimitrish81 ( talk) 13:53, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
By the facts uts clear that we are not talking about a rebel assault but for an infiltration of rebels throw the unguarded kurdish areas to the back of the government held areas. After the response of the army and the awake of kurdish militia in a few hours the rebels backed from the gov areas including of course the armenian Zukoor(as Preacher accurately wrote last night).-- Dimitrish81 ( talk) 17:19, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
I think it's time to create the third column for the Kurdish militia... Now they are fighting the FSA. It's not about only 3 killed Kurdish soldiers anymore. -- Wüstenfuchs 17:22, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
I think if we keep this PYD phrase in the article, we should have the third column: "We have chosen to remain neutral, and we will not take sides in a war that will only bring suffering and destruction to our country". If they are neutral, there is no way they can be on the same side of the Syrian opposition.-- Andres arg ( talk) 23:37, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
Agree. Their stand until this day, saw that they are the third power in Aleppo.-- Dimitrish81 ( talk) 11:19, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
First of all, PYD seems to clash far more often with the FSA than with the regime, still they are included on the FSA side of the infobox for some reason. Now, the thing is, PYD has released a statement declaring neutrality in the Battle of Aleppo: “We have chosen to remain neutral, and we will not take sides in a war that will only bring suffering and destruction to our country,” the statement said. So why were they still included in the side of the rebels? Kermanshahi ( talk) 14:15, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
I moved a discussion about the PKK that was going on at my talk page to here:
This is not a general forum. EllsworthSK ( talk) 01:33, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
I brought this up on FT's talkpage, but I want to point out here to y'all that you should link to the specific post from SOHR's facebook by clicking the timestamp. Otherwise, there is no relevant context for verifiability.
In the future, I will revert on sight any additions using the SOHR mainpage as a bare link, as this fails WP:V. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ( talk) 16:54, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
This the new version of the map that was used before for the one in the infobox, please make needed changes [8] New map should show offensive from the western suburbs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.52.81.202 ( talk) 17:28, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
It's the same map as the one used before for maps in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.52.81.202 ( talk) 17:53, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
I heard another story diametrically opposed in connection with the events of October 25th. The frontline would not have really moved. They would be 200 men who deeply advanced in districts held by regular army but without succeeding in making them rising up and who thus would have been pushed back rather quickly. On the other hand it is possible indeed that regular army benefits from the truce to forward reinforcements weapons and ammunition to its troops downtown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.202.245.44 ( talk) 06:40, 26 October 2012 (UTC) To the guy who started this topic , do you know any other maps like the one you gave us? Situation seems to be shifting again today, in reverse. Government tanks seemed to have moved into the main street running along those two Christian areas forcing the rebels to retreat to the Kurdish area they took. Also seems the rebels opened fire on a Kurdish protest in that districts, killing one protester and wounding five, leading to the Kurds warning the FSA fighters they could come into conflict. Sources in the article. EkoGraf ( talk) 16:22, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
To the guy that started this topic : do you know any other maps like the one you gave us? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 18:12, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
I think that the actual map should be upgraded. western area is under rebel control and rebel gained checkpoints in salahedine. But the army regained control over bostan al pasha. Can you please upgrade the map? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 10:29, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Well i'm new here so i don't know how to do this but for salahedine you write like 2 weeks ago that rebel claimed capturing salahedine again.Now for bustan al basha preacher wrote that it was at 80% under army control so i would like you to please upgrade the map from my or your sources. Oh and i've got some news about rebel attacking the army airbase at Taftanaz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 19:47, 3 November 2012 (UTC) You can also add to news that rebel excuted army personel in Saraqib 2 days ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvp1HXjXWIs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 19:54, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Taftanaz and Saraqib are totally different battles that are separate from the Battle for Aleppo. So we don't include that info. As for Salahadine, I am aware of that specific report, however at this point its unreliable. Because one week after that claim was made, the rebels again claimed to had captured Salahadine, but was not confirmed, and also around 10 days before that report they also claimed to had captured it. So you see, in just a month the rebels claimed on three separate occasions to had captured Salahadine, which was never confirmed by AFP reporters who are on the ground. As for Bostan Pasha, 80 percent doesn't make it government-held. It makes it contested, which is already indicated on the map. EkoGraf ( talk) 01:53, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
The battle of Taftanaz like you say is different because it hapened 7 months ago. But i am talking about an OFFENSIVE not a battle which is different. The rebel are attacking it because it is a key airbase and it is where helicopters and jets that are supporting army in Damascus and Aleppo come from.
And if rebel take this key airbase it will become harder for army to send jets to Aleppo and Damascus— Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk • contribs)
I didn't say that Taftanaz is close or far away of Aleppo. I said that the rebel attacked its airbase because it is where planes that are bombing Aleppo come from. Seriously guys am I the only one that thinks this map needs a little update? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 15:28, 4 November 2012 (UTC) No replies? ok... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 16:22, 5 November 2012 (UTC) Only Zahraa area unclear? you should make the extreme western area green and then unclear til Zahraa. Military research center and the other important places should stay red — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 16:26, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Lets be cautious about area control. Taftanaz and Zahraa cases are out of the newswire for some reason. Fireworks are not real in many cases and the thing is that situation is becoming always clear in 24 hours. The notorious October assault of rebels was nothing more than an infiltration of rebels using the unguarded(in the start) areas of the Kurds into the back of government areas, where army didnt have manpower mainly because it wasn't the front-line. It wasnt a real takeover so we must sometimes wait until everything clears.-- Dimitrish81 ( talk) 18:53, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Well it seems like we're not right with each other. I think the best thing to do is waiting for some news for updating the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 22:14, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Residents told AFP reporters that Liramun at the northwest entrance of Aleppo has been bombed by warplanes and shelled by tanks [9]. There has been fighting reported at the roundabout at the northwestern entrance of the city and on the Aleppo airport road on the southeastern side [10] [11] 138.123.80.61 ( talk) 16:11, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Okay , i'm 78.232.100 etc etc... i created an acc to discuss with you guys . As for the leramoon district i suggest to bring a satellite view of aleppo where we could see the oustskirts of aleppo like leramoon. this map would also have rebel and army controlled zones — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amedjay ( talk • contribs) 16:52, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
What do you guys think about that? Amedjay ( talk) 17:08, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
I also suggest to add the artillery faculty on the map. It is situated on south west direction from sukkari Amedjay ( talk) 18:54, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
You can also add the rebel assaults on the aiport. You should make Nairab unclear because of the clashes Amedjay ( talk) 18:59, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
There are constant reports from SANA of army operating in specific areas in Bustan al Basha for some days now. How it is possible the army not to control Midan and however operate daily in Basha area?? Not a single report by rebels os fighting in Midan area is not accidental. -- Dimitrish81 ( talk) 20:37, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
Where is the source? I'm reverting this edit https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Battle_of_Aleppo_(2012)&diff=prev&oldid=521661738 till we find a reliable source stating that, because all I found was only one tweet.-- Andres arg ( talk) 17:23, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Video with her alive from 10.11.2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9zlPQPz5mo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rebell44 ( talk • contribs) 02:07, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Addounia TV News Bulletin saws video footage(from 0830 minutes) from Zahraa area secured by the Army.Confirm it from other sources.-- Dimitrish81 ( talk) 14:40, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Sorry but showing one angle at one street from Syrian state tv doesn't prove that clashes don't occur there daily. Addounia is not even reliable (UTC) Sopher99 ( talk) 15:26, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
agree with you sopher99, syrian state tv is spreading false propaganda information,worse than the nazi propaganda in the last days of ww2 Alhanuty ( talk) 16:59, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. Anyway , dimitrish come to my talkpage to discuss about battle for aleppo. If you want to of course :D . Sopher you can come too Amedjay ( talk) 19:09, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Oh ok. Amedjay ( talk) 20:18, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Ok then come please discuss with me on my talk page. I am new here so i need to meet the people. Amedjay ( talk) 21:13, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Expect news soon. Numerous videos of capture now available including take over of tanks, artillery, prisoners and plundering of ammo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.169.81.226 ( talk) 23:13, 18 November 2012 (UTC) Confirmed. http://www.aljazeera.com/video/middleeast/2012/11/20121119155411532198.html 76.99.169.45 ( talk) 19:39, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
I agree with EkoGraf... some users have double standards. When Army captures an important place outside the city - it's outside the city; however, when rebels do such thing it's strategically important to the battle and thus it can not be erased from the article. That's rubbish. It's outside the city. -- Wüstenfuchs 14:27, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
by the way wustenfuchs and ekograf,what the army has captured has no strategic importance,and i doubt that they made any progress in these last weeks, meanwhile the rebels has make big stategic progress,including capturing Regiment 46 base , as long as Maarat al-Numan is under rebel control,the regime has zero chances to make important or stategic progress,and if the rebels cut the m4 road,the regime will be doomed in Aleppo,and by the way i have realized that wustenfuchs is pro-regime editor and his neutrality is doubted in editing in this article,every has to be neutral while writing in this article . Alhanuty ( talk) 21:12, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
a neutral perspective of the events is what has to be written, not with regime or the opposition side and by reading wustenfuchs current and former comments I find him very biased to the syrian regime, i am not attacking him him,I am informing that he can't be that a lot biased toward the syrian regime . Alhanuty ( talk) 22:23, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
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Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | Archive 6 | → | Archive 8 |
sources: [1] [2] [3] Dafranca ( talk) 14:26, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
This article says that according to "Arab diplomatic sources", there are 20,000 rebels fighting in Aleppo. I have no idea about this site, is it reliable? Has that been mentioned anywhere else? If it's reliable, the infobox should be updated. Esn ( talk) 04:51, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
The rebels casualties shouldn't be marked with flags as now... There is FSA flag, but reports aren't specific. For example, vast majority says rebels were killed, and rebels are the jihadists as well, so it is impossible to separate jihadist from FSA casualties. The number of jihadist casualties is simply unrealistic considering their presence in Aleppo. We should remove those flags. -- Wüstenfuchs 21:00, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Now, at this exact moment, heavy clashes are going on between the FSA and the armed groups of the Kurdish PKK in the Ashrafiyeh and Syriac quarters.... I wander how some editors are still insisting to classify the Kurds as a pro-FSA power!-- Preacher lad ( talk) 10:24, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
I checked Preacher Lads' photos on Commons. A lot of the recent photos seem that he claimed to have taken are pictures of places in Armenia, not Aleppo. Care to explain? -- FutureTrillionaire ( talk) 15:28, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Please check out: I took the photos on the spot earlier today, during the offensive of the Jabhat al-Nusra in the New Syriac quarter (al-Zuhoor). Early morning offencive civilian killed by the militants-- Preacher lad ( talk) 16:25, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Well it looks like Preacher lad was telling the truth despite the hostility toward him. Well according to Joshua Landis the guy who broke the story yesterday about the rebel advances. The government has taken back the neighbourhoods by the evening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhvfRJ43JLE&sns=tw
There is also video of people in Aleppo celebrating the arrival of the Syrian Soldiers. The fact that this many civilians are out at this time of the day without fear suggests that the rebels were kicked out and never had full control of these areas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1-RGIWMLlU&feature=plcp 62.31.145.100 ( talk) 11:16, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Its clear today that the army intervened and relatively easily pushed out the rebels from districts that the residents are clearly proAssad. Its also clear that Kurdish militia clash directly with the rebels and push them back, under their doctrine of neutrality for their areas. Also the Armenian area was confirmed clear as Preacher told us. It will be nice if we have more reports from him, even if they are not verified immediately, to have the picture.-- Dimitrish81 ( talk) 13:53, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
By the facts uts clear that we are not talking about a rebel assault but for an infiltration of rebels throw the unguarded kurdish areas to the back of the government held areas. After the response of the army and the awake of kurdish militia in a few hours the rebels backed from the gov areas including of course the armenian Zukoor(as Preacher accurately wrote last night).-- Dimitrish81 ( talk) 17:19, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
I think it's time to create the third column for the Kurdish militia... Now they are fighting the FSA. It's not about only 3 killed Kurdish soldiers anymore. -- Wüstenfuchs 17:22, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
I think if we keep this PYD phrase in the article, we should have the third column: "We have chosen to remain neutral, and we will not take sides in a war that will only bring suffering and destruction to our country". If they are neutral, there is no way they can be on the same side of the Syrian opposition.-- Andres arg ( talk) 23:37, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
Agree. Their stand until this day, saw that they are the third power in Aleppo.-- Dimitrish81 ( talk) 11:19, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
First of all, PYD seems to clash far more often with the FSA than with the regime, still they are included on the FSA side of the infobox for some reason. Now, the thing is, PYD has released a statement declaring neutrality in the Battle of Aleppo: “We have chosen to remain neutral, and we will not take sides in a war that will only bring suffering and destruction to our country,” the statement said. So why were they still included in the side of the rebels? Kermanshahi ( talk) 14:15, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
I moved a discussion about the PKK that was going on at my talk page to here:
This is not a general forum. EllsworthSK ( talk) 01:33, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
I brought this up on FT's talkpage, but I want to point out here to y'all that you should link to the specific post from SOHR's facebook by clicking the timestamp. Otherwise, there is no relevant context for verifiability.
In the future, I will revert on sight any additions using the SOHR mainpage as a bare link, as this fails WP:V. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ( talk) 16:54, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
This the new version of the map that was used before for the one in the infobox, please make needed changes [8] New map should show offensive from the western suburbs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.52.81.202 ( talk) 17:28, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
It's the same map as the one used before for maps in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.52.81.202 ( talk) 17:53, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
I heard another story diametrically opposed in connection with the events of October 25th. The frontline would not have really moved. They would be 200 men who deeply advanced in districts held by regular army but without succeeding in making them rising up and who thus would have been pushed back rather quickly. On the other hand it is possible indeed that regular army benefits from the truce to forward reinforcements weapons and ammunition to its troops downtown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.202.245.44 ( talk) 06:40, 26 October 2012 (UTC) To the guy who started this topic , do you know any other maps like the one you gave us? Situation seems to be shifting again today, in reverse. Government tanks seemed to have moved into the main street running along those two Christian areas forcing the rebels to retreat to the Kurdish area they took. Also seems the rebels opened fire on a Kurdish protest in that districts, killing one protester and wounding five, leading to the Kurds warning the FSA fighters they could come into conflict. Sources in the article. EkoGraf ( talk) 16:22, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
To the guy that started this topic : do you know any other maps like the one you gave us? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 18:12, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
I think that the actual map should be upgraded. western area is under rebel control and rebel gained checkpoints in salahedine. But the army regained control over bostan al pasha. Can you please upgrade the map? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 10:29, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Well i'm new here so i don't know how to do this but for salahedine you write like 2 weeks ago that rebel claimed capturing salahedine again.Now for bustan al basha preacher wrote that it was at 80% under army control so i would like you to please upgrade the map from my or your sources. Oh and i've got some news about rebel attacking the army airbase at Taftanaz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 19:47, 3 November 2012 (UTC) You can also add to news that rebel excuted army personel in Saraqib 2 days ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvp1HXjXWIs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 19:54, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Taftanaz and Saraqib are totally different battles that are separate from the Battle for Aleppo. So we don't include that info. As for Salahadine, I am aware of that specific report, however at this point its unreliable. Because one week after that claim was made, the rebels again claimed to had captured Salahadine, but was not confirmed, and also around 10 days before that report they also claimed to had captured it. So you see, in just a month the rebels claimed on three separate occasions to had captured Salahadine, which was never confirmed by AFP reporters who are on the ground. As for Bostan Pasha, 80 percent doesn't make it government-held. It makes it contested, which is already indicated on the map. EkoGraf ( talk) 01:53, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
The battle of Taftanaz like you say is different because it hapened 7 months ago. But i am talking about an OFFENSIVE not a battle which is different. The rebel are attacking it because it is a key airbase and it is where helicopters and jets that are supporting army in Damascus and Aleppo come from.
And if rebel take this key airbase it will become harder for army to send jets to Aleppo and Damascus— Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk • contribs)
I didn't say that Taftanaz is close or far away of Aleppo. I said that the rebel attacked its airbase because it is where planes that are bombing Aleppo come from. Seriously guys am I the only one that thinks this map needs a little update? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 15:28, 4 November 2012 (UTC) No replies? ok... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 16:22, 5 November 2012 (UTC) Only Zahraa area unclear? you should make the extreme western area green and then unclear til Zahraa. Military research center and the other important places should stay red — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 16:26, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Lets be cautious about area control. Taftanaz and Zahraa cases are out of the newswire for some reason. Fireworks are not real in many cases and the thing is that situation is becoming always clear in 24 hours. The notorious October assault of rebels was nothing more than an infiltration of rebels using the unguarded(in the start) areas of the Kurds into the back of government areas, where army didnt have manpower mainly because it wasn't the front-line. It wasnt a real takeover so we must sometimes wait until everything clears.-- Dimitrish81 ( talk) 18:53, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Well it seems like we're not right with each other. I think the best thing to do is waiting for some news for updating the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.232.100.63 ( talk) 22:14, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Residents told AFP reporters that Liramun at the northwest entrance of Aleppo has been bombed by warplanes and shelled by tanks [9]. There has been fighting reported at the roundabout at the northwestern entrance of the city and on the Aleppo airport road on the southeastern side [10] [11] 138.123.80.61 ( talk) 16:11, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Okay , i'm 78.232.100 etc etc... i created an acc to discuss with you guys . As for the leramoon district i suggest to bring a satellite view of aleppo where we could see the oustskirts of aleppo like leramoon. this map would also have rebel and army controlled zones — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amedjay ( talk • contribs) 16:52, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
What do you guys think about that? Amedjay ( talk) 17:08, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
I also suggest to add the artillery faculty on the map. It is situated on south west direction from sukkari Amedjay ( talk) 18:54, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
You can also add the rebel assaults on the aiport. You should make Nairab unclear because of the clashes Amedjay ( talk) 18:59, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
There are constant reports from SANA of army operating in specific areas in Bustan al Basha for some days now. How it is possible the army not to control Midan and however operate daily in Basha area?? Not a single report by rebels os fighting in Midan area is not accidental. -- Dimitrish81 ( talk) 20:37, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
Where is the source? I'm reverting this edit https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Battle_of_Aleppo_(2012)&diff=prev&oldid=521661738 till we find a reliable source stating that, because all I found was only one tweet.-- Andres arg ( talk) 17:23, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Video with her alive from 10.11.2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9zlPQPz5mo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rebell44 ( talk • contribs) 02:07, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Addounia TV News Bulletin saws video footage(from 0830 minutes) from Zahraa area secured by the Army.Confirm it from other sources.-- Dimitrish81 ( talk) 14:40, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Sorry but showing one angle at one street from Syrian state tv doesn't prove that clashes don't occur there daily. Addounia is not even reliable (UTC) Sopher99 ( talk) 15:26, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
agree with you sopher99, syrian state tv is spreading false propaganda information,worse than the nazi propaganda in the last days of ww2 Alhanuty ( talk) 16:59, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. Anyway , dimitrish come to my talkpage to discuss about battle for aleppo. If you want to of course :D . Sopher you can come too Amedjay ( talk) 19:09, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Oh ok. Amedjay ( talk) 20:18, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Ok then come please discuss with me on my talk page. I am new here so i need to meet the people. Amedjay ( talk) 21:13, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Expect news soon. Numerous videos of capture now available including take over of tanks, artillery, prisoners and plundering of ammo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.169.81.226 ( talk) 23:13, 18 November 2012 (UTC) Confirmed. http://www.aljazeera.com/video/middleeast/2012/11/20121119155411532198.html 76.99.169.45 ( talk) 19:39, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
I agree with EkoGraf... some users have double standards. When Army captures an important place outside the city - it's outside the city; however, when rebels do such thing it's strategically important to the battle and thus it can not be erased from the article. That's rubbish. It's outside the city. -- Wüstenfuchs 14:27, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
by the way wustenfuchs and ekograf,what the army has captured has no strategic importance,and i doubt that they made any progress in these last weeks, meanwhile the rebels has make big stategic progress,including capturing Regiment 46 base , as long as Maarat al-Numan is under rebel control,the regime has zero chances to make important or stategic progress,and if the rebels cut the m4 road,the regime will be doomed in Aleppo,and by the way i have realized that wustenfuchs is pro-regime editor and his neutrality is doubted in editing in this article,every has to be neutral while writing in this article . Alhanuty ( talk) 21:12, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
a neutral perspective of the events is what has to be written, not with regime or the opposition side and by reading wustenfuchs current and former comments I find him very biased to the syrian regime, i am not attacking him him,I am informing that he can't be that a lot biased toward the syrian regime . Alhanuty ( talk) 22:23, 22 November 2012 (UTC)