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The total claimed sales are 43 million, but the certified sales only sum up to 21.8 million, just over half of that. So, where does the other half come from? There are missing sales figures from Latin America, Asia and most of Europe (all but UK, Germany & Denmark). I don't think they could cover over 20 million of sales. If they would, the album would be in lists like List of best-selling albums in Brazil, List of best-selling albums in France, List of best-selling albums in Italy and List of best-selling albums in Japan, which are among the biggest of those markets. 85.76.71.5 ( talk) 06:18, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Steinman's songs for Bat Out of Hell are personal but not autobiographical: I never thought of them as personal songs in terms of my own life but they were personality songs.
Doesn't the quote directly disprove the claim, says it is personal, then the quote says it is not? Auto98uk ( talk) 02:03, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
How can it be the debut album of Meat Loaf, when he released a album before? It also wasn't the first album Jim Steinman had worked on, since he was involved for example with Yvonne Ellimann's Food for Thought album. 2003:ED:2F0A:E83F:A00A:F0BE:BC54:E59E ( talk) 18:20, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
10x platinum = diamond, so it would be like 1.4x diamond Wolf O'Donnel ( talk) 00:12, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, no, this is a pop album through and through. Sure, it's a rock opera, but so is the Who's Tommy, and the Wiki article for that album doesn't list it as "progressive rock." And sure, the songs are kinda long, but that justification seems like even more of a stretch than the previous one. Besides that, those are the only reasons I can think of for why this album would be labeled "progressive rock." Progressive rock has its own conventions and styles and this album just doesn't align with them; again, it really is pop music. You could probably get away with calling it "progressive" rock, but not "progressive rock." (In fact, I even question the "hard rock" label as well, but that's beside the point.) I understand the source for these labels is AllMusic, but to be honest, I don't think they're in the right here. Pardon the loaded question, but should we change the Wiki article to be a bit more accurate? I figured I should ask first before just going ahead and doing it, because it seemed like it would be kind of a major edit to make. Benny the Bouncer ( talk) 07:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
"A-B-C-B-C-C""? Somebody has to be remembering that wrong. That's a terrible chord progression. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2404:4404:3400:6600:C135:1D6A:8F0C:9F59 ( talk) 08:35, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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The total claimed sales are 43 million, but the certified sales only sum up to 21.8 million, just over half of that. So, where does the other half come from? There are missing sales figures from Latin America, Asia and most of Europe (all but UK, Germany & Denmark). I don't think they could cover over 20 million of sales. If they would, the album would be in lists like List of best-selling albums in Brazil, List of best-selling albums in France, List of best-selling albums in Italy and List of best-selling albums in Japan, which are among the biggest of those markets. 85.76.71.5 ( talk) 06:18, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Steinman's songs for Bat Out of Hell are personal but not autobiographical: I never thought of them as personal songs in terms of my own life but they were personality songs.
Doesn't the quote directly disprove the claim, says it is personal, then the quote says it is not? Auto98uk ( talk) 02:03, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
How can it be the debut album of Meat Loaf, when he released a album before? It also wasn't the first album Jim Steinman had worked on, since he was involved for example with Yvonne Ellimann's Food for Thought album. 2003:ED:2F0A:E83F:A00A:F0BE:BC54:E59E ( talk) 18:20, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
10x platinum = diamond, so it would be like 1.4x diamond Wolf O'Donnel ( talk) 00:12, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, no, this is a pop album through and through. Sure, it's a rock opera, but so is the Who's Tommy, and the Wiki article for that album doesn't list it as "progressive rock." And sure, the songs are kinda long, but that justification seems like even more of a stretch than the previous one. Besides that, those are the only reasons I can think of for why this album would be labeled "progressive rock." Progressive rock has its own conventions and styles and this album just doesn't align with them; again, it really is pop music. You could probably get away with calling it "progressive" rock, but not "progressive rock." (In fact, I even question the "hard rock" label as well, but that's beside the point.) I understand the source for these labels is AllMusic, but to be honest, I don't think they're in the right here. Pardon the loaded question, but should we change the Wiki article to be a bit more accurate? I figured I should ask first before just going ahead and doing it, because it seemed like it would be kind of a major edit to make. Benny the Bouncer ( talk) 07:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
"A-B-C-B-C-C""? Somebody has to be remembering that wrong. That's a terrible chord progression. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2404:4404:3400:6600:C135:1D6A:8F0C:9F59 ( talk) 08:35, 30 June 2024 (UTC)