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It mentions that stopping power is 50% greater than 5.56, and then also mentions that Kinetic energy is 1.5 times greater. I am no expert, but isn't that the same fact? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.105.149.62 ( talk) 23:43, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
I added the current price and a link to the Barrett web page which lists same, I don't feel inclined to remove the link to Military.com and the competing price because it may represent what Barrett would charge them.
This gun is now being called the REC7 on Barrett's website, I will try my best to change the article to reflect this. -- Semper Fidelis ( talk) 16:24, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Can someone get a picture for this page?
is this good? www.barrettrifles.com/images/rifles/468.gif —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.173.137.110 ( talk) 00:03, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
WHy does this have it's own dedicated page? It's another civilian AR-15 clone with a SIR rail. How is it different from any other civilian AR-15 clone? Wikipedia is not an advertising brochure for manufacturers. And why did someone label this a service rifle? Was it created in response to a government solicitation for a replacement for current issue weapons? How many armies have it in service? This is an amateurish article that reads like an ad in a gun rag and I will seek to delete it unless it meets the notability requirements. Koalorka ( talk) 18:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Bullshit. Show me documented use of the weapon within the SOF community. Otherwise it's just marketing. Hell, even Vulcan Arms makes "The machine guns of the special forces" and their AR-15 clones are considered some of the worst on the market. This is no more than an AR-15 in 6.5 mm with a SIR rail, does not meet any condition to have it's own page. Koalorka ( talk) 08:58, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zMpN_-pcas 64.236.121.129 ( talk) 15:05, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Well apart from some petty personal attacks, no one has yet proven why this should exist. It's an AR-15 in 6.8 mm SPC with a SIR rail and a folding front sight. I have a friend who has an AR-15 setup in an almost identical fashion. He's got a 20" barrel and a PRI inc. folding front sight gas block. Should we have it listed here as the Kowalski custom? Because the rifle is so elite and secretive, only one is known to exist and may even possibly be in use with the Ranger Nintendo Spec-Ops Sphincter Cell Unit Bravo team. Even the clueless knob from Futureweapons has touched it once, therefore = Notable! Right? BTW, what makes this a "Service rifle"? Shouldn't it be in service with anyone to be called that? This article is worthless with no offense to any editors involved. Koalorka ( talk) 17:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Tell us why it is notable. Koalorka ( talk) 21:35, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Any validation for that claim LWF? If any of you are truly familiar with any AR platform you will see that this is just an upper drop-in replacement with an after-market rail and sights attached. I suspect that Barrett doesn't even manufacture the barrel or forge the receiver.... This article is really a thorn in my eye and a contradiction to our notability standards. Koalorka ( talk) 22:42, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, you are correct, very few manufacturers make components in-house. Even Colt sub-contracts most of its production to smaller firms. But the point I'm trying to make is that this drop-in upgrade is simply another in a market of hundreds and there seems to be some kind of misguided "aura" about it due in part to the manufacturer (known for some innovative precision rifles) and the fact it was featured on Futureweapons. I don't see how this differs from a custom DPMS, Rock River Arms or even Olympic Arms upper? Koalorka ( talk) 23:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
When I think of the 6.8mm SPC, I immediately think of the M468. I can see no reason why Wikipedia SHOULDN'T have a page on it. Here is a link from Gunblast.com ( http://www.gunblast.com/Barrett-M468.htm ) stating the following;
QUOTE: The future of the 6.8 SPC as a military cartridge has not been finalized. However, at this time there are some specialized units of the US Army putting the M468 through some serious testing. Barrett Manufacturing is working closely with the military in developing this weapon. Barrett has for many years supplied the excellent Model 82A1 to the US military and our allies, and has the ability to supply the M468 as needed. END QUOTE
This, and the fact that it now has a military designation, should end the controversy of whether or not the M468 can be considered a military rifle. If there is any 6.8mm rifle currently in production that has a shot at being the replacement for the current M4/M16 battle rifle, it is the M468. Tominator93 ( talk) 07:54, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
No, the upper hasn't been considered by any outfit officially, but neither has any other rifle since the XM8 project was canceled, besides a "future needs assessment" involving the XM8, the M4, the HK 416, and the SCAR. Tominator93 ( talk) 20:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I just thought I'd Throw in this little train of thought: The REC7 utilizes a short-stroke gas system. This would address the issue of reliability often attributed to the M4/M16 family of rifles. The 6.8mm round offers 50% more kinetic energy delivered than a standard 5.56, addressing the issue of the M4/M16 family of rifles reputation of having very little stopping power. The REC7 is offered in the form of an upper receiver replacement, which would make replacing existing AR-15 rifles (such as the U.S. Armed Forces' M16/M4 Rifles) much cheaper. Then Barrett got their rifle a military designation. Do you see where I'm going with this? All signs seem to point to Barrett preparing to go after a U.S. military contract with the REC7. Tominator93 ( talk) 07:52, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
With the REC7/M468 being selected for an "invitation only" audience with the people who will decide the requirements for the replacement for the US Military's primary rifle stock, I think we can abandon any notion that this article should be deleted. - Gwopy 22:54, 1 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gwopy ( talk • contribs)
http://www.barrett.net/firearms/rec7 the firearm is also in 5.56x45 Nato —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kleonmarvin ( talk • contribs) 13:49, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
i changed the percantage of how much more power the bullet packs from 50% to 44% as barrett says in their promotion video on youtube and on barrett.com i think this should be noticed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.95.82.250 ( talk) 10:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
The article states that the magazines for the 6.8 and the 5.56 are interchangeable. This is simply not true and should be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pira114 ( talk • contribs) 04:41, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
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It mentions that stopping power is 50% greater than 5.56, and then also mentions that Kinetic energy is 1.5 times greater. I am no expert, but isn't that the same fact? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.105.149.62 ( talk) 23:43, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
I added the current price and a link to the Barrett web page which lists same, I don't feel inclined to remove the link to Military.com and the competing price because it may represent what Barrett would charge them.
This gun is now being called the REC7 on Barrett's website, I will try my best to change the article to reflect this. -- Semper Fidelis ( talk) 16:24, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Can someone get a picture for this page?
is this good? www.barrettrifles.com/images/rifles/468.gif —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.173.137.110 ( talk) 00:03, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
WHy does this have it's own dedicated page? It's another civilian AR-15 clone with a SIR rail. How is it different from any other civilian AR-15 clone? Wikipedia is not an advertising brochure for manufacturers. And why did someone label this a service rifle? Was it created in response to a government solicitation for a replacement for current issue weapons? How many armies have it in service? This is an amateurish article that reads like an ad in a gun rag and I will seek to delete it unless it meets the notability requirements. Koalorka ( talk) 18:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Bullshit. Show me documented use of the weapon within the SOF community. Otherwise it's just marketing. Hell, even Vulcan Arms makes "The machine guns of the special forces" and their AR-15 clones are considered some of the worst on the market. This is no more than an AR-15 in 6.5 mm with a SIR rail, does not meet any condition to have it's own page. Koalorka ( talk) 08:58, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zMpN_-pcas 64.236.121.129 ( talk) 15:05, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Well apart from some petty personal attacks, no one has yet proven why this should exist. It's an AR-15 in 6.8 mm SPC with a SIR rail and a folding front sight. I have a friend who has an AR-15 setup in an almost identical fashion. He's got a 20" barrel and a PRI inc. folding front sight gas block. Should we have it listed here as the Kowalski custom? Because the rifle is so elite and secretive, only one is known to exist and may even possibly be in use with the Ranger Nintendo Spec-Ops Sphincter Cell Unit Bravo team. Even the clueless knob from Futureweapons has touched it once, therefore = Notable! Right? BTW, what makes this a "Service rifle"? Shouldn't it be in service with anyone to be called that? This article is worthless with no offense to any editors involved. Koalorka ( talk) 17:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Tell us why it is notable. Koalorka ( talk) 21:35, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Any validation for that claim LWF? If any of you are truly familiar with any AR platform you will see that this is just an upper drop-in replacement with an after-market rail and sights attached. I suspect that Barrett doesn't even manufacture the barrel or forge the receiver.... This article is really a thorn in my eye and a contradiction to our notability standards. Koalorka ( talk) 22:42, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, you are correct, very few manufacturers make components in-house. Even Colt sub-contracts most of its production to smaller firms. But the point I'm trying to make is that this drop-in upgrade is simply another in a market of hundreds and there seems to be some kind of misguided "aura" about it due in part to the manufacturer (known for some innovative precision rifles) and the fact it was featured on Futureweapons. I don't see how this differs from a custom DPMS, Rock River Arms or even Olympic Arms upper? Koalorka ( talk) 23:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
When I think of the 6.8mm SPC, I immediately think of the M468. I can see no reason why Wikipedia SHOULDN'T have a page on it. Here is a link from Gunblast.com ( http://www.gunblast.com/Barrett-M468.htm ) stating the following;
QUOTE: The future of the 6.8 SPC as a military cartridge has not been finalized. However, at this time there are some specialized units of the US Army putting the M468 through some serious testing. Barrett Manufacturing is working closely with the military in developing this weapon. Barrett has for many years supplied the excellent Model 82A1 to the US military and our allies, and has the ability to supply the M468 as needed. END QUOTE
This, and the fact that it now has a military designation, should end the controversy of whether or not the M468 can be considered a military rifle. If there is any 6.8mm rifle currently in production that has a shot at being the replacement for the current M4/M16 battle rifle, it is the M468. Tominator93 ( talk) 07:54, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
No, the upper hasn't been considered by any outfit officially, but neither has any other rifle since the XM8 project was canceled, besides a "future needs assessment" involving the XM8, the M4, the HK 416, and the SCAR. Tominator93 ( talk) 20:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I just thought I'd Throw in this little train of thought: The REC7 utilizes a short-stroke gas system. This would address the issue of reliability often attributed to the M4/M16 family of rifles. The 6.8mm round offers 50% more kinetic energy delivered than a standard 5.56, addressing the issue of the M4/M16 family of rifles reputation of having very little stopping power. The REC7 is offered in the form of an upper receiver replacement, which would make replacing existing AR-15 rifles (such as the U.S. Armed Forces' M16/M4 Rifles) much cheaper. Then Barrett got their rifle a military designation. Do you see where I'm going with this? All signs seem to point to Barrett preparing to go after a U.S. military contract with the REC7. Tominator93 ( talk) 07:52, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
With the REC7/M468 being selected for an "invitation only" audience with the people who will decide the requirements for the replacement for the US Military's primary rifle stock, I think we can abandon any notion that this article should be deleted. - Gwopy 22:54, 1 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gwopy ( talk • contribs)
http://www.barrett.net/firearms/rec7 the firearm is also in 5.56x45 Nato —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kleonmarvin ( talk • contribs) 13:49, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
i changed the percantage of how much more power the bullet packs from 50% to 44% as barrett says in their promotion video on youtube and on barrett.com i think this should be noticed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.95.82.250 ( talk) 10:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
The article states that the magazines for the 6.8 and the 5.56 are interchangeable. This is simply not true and should be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pira114 ( talk • contribs) 04:41, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
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