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Assuming the article is correct the 2nd baron was created first earl (in 1351) so that's why the loop. Of course if there are multiple unconnected earldoms - then we will need to cover this.
Alci1223:38, 22 May 2006 (UTC)reply
There is a problem with the potted history on the article page. When an attainder is reversed, it does not rehabilitate all those before the reversal who might have been barons. It passes over them as though they don't exist. The person who has been successful in overturning the attainder becomes the next numbered baron. No time to change today.
David Lauder14:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)reply
I have noticed that Humphrey, later 1st Duke of Buckingham, is described as Baron and Earl Stafford from 1402, yet his father was only killed at Shrewsbury in 1403.17:00, 15 January 2017 (UTC)17:00, 15 January 2017 (UTC)17:00, 15 January 2017 (UTC)~ — Preceding
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Assuming the article is correct the 2nd baron was created first earl (in 1351) so that's why the loop. Of course if there are multiple unconnected earldoms - then we will need to cover this.
Alci1223:38, 22 May 2006 (UTC)reply
There is a problem with the potted history on the article page. When an attainder is reversed, it does not rehabilitate all those before the reversal who might have been barons. It passes over them as though they don't exist. The person who has been successful in overturning the attainder becomes the next numbered baron. No time to change today.
David Lauder14:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)reply
I have noticed that Humphrey, later 1st Duke of Buckingham, is described as Baron and Earl Stafford from 1402, yet his father was only killed at Shrewsbury in 1403.17:00, 15 January 2017 (UTC)17:00, 15 January 2017 (UTC)17:00, 15 January 2017 (UTC)~ — Preceding
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