The
contentious topics procedure applies to this article. This article is related to the
Arab–Israeli conflict, which is a contentious topic. Furthermore, the following rules apply when editing this article:
You must be logged-in and
extended-confirmed to edit or discuss this topic on any page (except for
making edit requests, provided they are not disruptive)
You may not make more than 1 revert within 24 hours on any edits related to this topic
The exceptions to the extended confirmed restriction are:
Non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace only to
make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided they are not disruptive.
Non-extended-confirmed editors may not create new articles, but administrators may exercise discretion when deciding how to enforce this remedy on article creations. Deletion of new articles created by non-extended-confirmed editors is permitted but not required.
With respect to the WP:1RR restriction:
Clear vandalism of whatever origin may be reverted without restriction. Also, reverts made solely to enforce the extended confirmed restriction are not considered edit warring.
Editors who violate this restriction may be blocked by any uninvolved administrator, even on a first offence.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Companies, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
companies on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CompaniesWikipedia:WikiProject CompaniesTemplate:WikiProject Companiescompany articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Israel, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Israel on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IsraelWikipedia:WikiProject IsraelTemplate:WikiProject IsraelIsrael-related articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Palestine, a team effort dedicated to building and maintaining comprehensive, informative and balanced articles related to the geographic
Palestine region, the
Palestinian people and the
State of Palestine on Wikipedia. Join us by visiting
the project page, where you can add your name to the
list of members where you can contribute to the
discussions.PalestineWikipedia:WikiProject PalestineTemplate:WikiProject PalestinePalestine-related articles
To my mind, the notability is their being one of only three or four manufacturers of a wide spread product more than the award. Imagine if there were only three companies that made household piping. I don't think they'd get much press but I feel they should be here in WP. I could put in a few lines about their product
design and features but I don't need to be their ad-man.
I don't think it needs to go but if people really think so perhaps it should be merged into the VESA article rather than deleted.
Update. I just did a news search for Barkan mounts in
Hebrew. The business news Globes runs regular articles about them and their investments implying that they are a force in the israeli econemy.
If it's as notable as you say (and you've clearly done your research), I wouldn't want to see the article deleted either. My only concern now is that being an orphan article sort of makes the article redundant. That's why I questioned it's notability. So, if we can avoid that, it'll be fantastic. Let's merge this article, therefore, into an article with wider scope. Your suggestion of
Flat Display Mounting Interface is brilliant, by the way. Then, in the future, if that article gets too large, we can break it up again into separate articles. For now, though, merging seems to be the best way to avoid orphan status.
I must admit, too, that my original concern was that this article may have been spam. I now think this is not the case. I also think that merging is the best way to avoid a future editor turning it into spam. Product promotion, I suspect, will show up more on a general article such as this than on an article devoted to a particular business.
Hmmm.... I hope I wasn't misunderstood. What I feel should be put in the VESA article is not this entire article but rather a section (that has since been removed) about design and features of the barkan mounting system. Just as I would not merge
Microsoft to the
operating system article I would not move any (notable) company to an article about the class of product it sells. BTW, I'm not so worried about spam to be honest. I wrote this article in prep for going there to interview for a job. (I didn't get the job) They are an old-school factory centric company who may not even know that they have an article on WP.
Joe407 (
talk)
07:21, 16 December 2010 (UTC)reply
Oops, actually you were misunderstood. Sorry. I'll leave it all in your hands from now on, then. Just one suggestion, though: if you're going to add a part of this article into the VESA article, why not do the same with other manufacturers of this product? Even if you have to create more articles, eventually this article will be sufficiently de-orphaned. Who knows, one day we could be looking at a Did you know... entry on the main page. Also, is Barkan mounts the name of the company? Or should the article be named Barkan Mounts or Barkan Mounting Systems? Am thinking that as a business name, it should be capitalised. Should be easy enough to fix: Just create the new page, copy the text, adjust any links, then ask for a
speedy delete of the old article. But like I said, I'll leave it up to you. Good luck and sorry you didn't get the job. --
~ ~ : Lincoln Cooper : ~ ~ (
talk)
12:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC)reply
The company did buck the political pressure to close shop and move its location, but could not resist the economics of continuing to support and nuture Palestinian labour and instead moved to China and laid off tens of Palestinians and some Israelis. --
Shuki (
talk)
12:47, 17 February 2012 (UTC)reply
Strategy / Brand
I agree with Boingomatic that the section titled strategy does not belong. The only part that might be nice to add to article is the butterfly design brand. If there is a good image of the butterfly mount and a source that Barkan is using it to brand themselves it would be a good addition.
Joe407 (
talk)
11:18, 9 November 2009 (UTC)reply
Israel
...is defined by the green line. Ariel is outside of the line. I have restored the accurate description that it is in the West Bank. It is not okay for editors to incorporate false information using Wikipedia's narrative voice. Sean.hoyland - talk03:42, 29 December 2011 (UTC)reply
The
contentious topics procedure applies to this article. This article is related to the
Arab–Israeli conflict, which is a contentious topic. Furthermore, the following rules apply when editing this article:
You must be logged-in and
extended-confirmed to edit or discuss this topic on any page (except for
making edit requests, provided they are not disruptive)
You may not make more than 1 revert within 24 hours on any edits related to this topic
The exceptions to the extended confirmed restriction are:
Non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace only to
make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided they are not disruptive.
Non-extended-confirmed editors may not create new articles, but administrators may exercise discretion when deciding how to enforce this remedy on article creations. Deletion of new articles created by non-extended-confirmed editors is permitted but not required.
With respect to the WP:1RR restriction:
Clear vandalism of whatever origin may be reverted without restriction. Also, reverts made solely to enforce the extended confirmed restriction are not considered edit warring.
Editors who violate this restriction may be blocked by any uninvolved administrator, even on a first offence.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Companies, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
companies on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CompaniesWikipedia:WikiProject CompaniesTemplate:WikiProject Companiescompany articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Israel, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Israel on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IsraelWikipedia:WikiProject IsraelTemplate:WikiProject IsraelIsrael-related articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Palestine, a team effort dedicated to building and maintaining comprehensive, informative and balanced articles related to the geographic
Palestine region, the
Palestinian people and the
State of Palestine on Wikipedia. Join us by visiting
the project page, where you can add your name to the
list of members where you can contribute to the
discussions.PalestineWikipedia:WikiProject PalestineTemplate:WikiProject PalestinePalestine-related articles
To my mind, the notability is their being one of only three or four manufacturers of a wide spread product more than the award. Imagine if there were only three companies that made household piping. I don't think they'd get much press but I feel they should be here in WP. I could put in a few lines about their product
design and features but I don't need to be their ad-man.
I don't think it needs to go but if people really think so perhaps it should be merged into the VESA article rather than deleted.
Update. I just did a news search for Barkan mounts in
Hebrew. The business news Globes runs regular articles about them and their investments implying that they are a force in the israeli econemy.
If it's as notable as you say (and you've clearly done your research), I wouldn't want to see the article deleted either. My only concern now is that being an orphan article sort of makes the article redundant. That's why I questioned it's notability. So, if we can avoid that, it'll be fantastic. Let's merge this article, therefore, into an article with wider scope. Your suggestion of
Flat Display Mounting Interface is brilliant, by the way. Then, in the future, if that article gets too large, we can break it up again into separate articles. For now, though, merging seems to be the best way to avoid orphan status.
I must admit, too, that my original concern was that this article may have been spam. I now think this is not the case. I also think that merging is the best way to avoid a future editor turning it into spam. Product promotion, I suspect, will show up more on a general article such as this than on an article devoted to a particular business.
Hmmm.... I hope I wasn't misunderstood. What I feel should be put in the VESA article is not this entire article but rather a section (that has since been removed) about design and features of the barkan mounting system. Just as I would not merge
Microsoft to the
operating system article I would not move any (notable) company to an article about the class of product it sells. BTW, I'm not so worried about spam to be honest. I wrote this article in prep for going there to interview for a job. (I didn't get the job) They are an old-school factory centric company who may not even know that they have an article on WP.
Joe407 (
talk)
07:21, 16 December 2010 (UTC)reply
Oops, actually you were misunderstood. Sorry. I'll leave it all in your hands from now on, then. Just one suggestion, though: if you're going to add a part of this article into the VESA article, why not do the same with other manufacturers of this product? Even if you have to create more articles, eventually this article will be sufficiently de-orphaned. Who knows, one day we could be looking at a Did you know... entry on the main page. Also, is Barkan mounts the name of the company? Or should the article be named Barkan Mounts or Barkan Mounting Systems? Am thinking that as a business name, it should be capitalised. Should be easy enough to fix: Just create the new page, copy the text, adjust any links, then ask for a
speedy delete of the old article. But like I said, I'll leave it up to you. Good luck and sorry you didn't get the job. --
~ ~ : Lincoln Cooper : ~ ~ (
talk)
12:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC)reply
The company did buck the political pressure to close shop and move its location, but could not resist the economics of continuing to support and nuture Palestinian labour and instead moved to China and laid off tens of Palestinians and some Israelis. --
Shuki (
talk)
12:47, 17 February 2012 (UTC)reply
Strategy / Brand
I agree with Boingomatic that the section titled strategy does not belong. The only part that might be nice to add to article is the butterfly design brand. If there is a good image of the butterfly mount and a source that Barkan is using it to brand themselves it would be a good addition.
Joe407 (
talk)
11:18, 9 November 2009 (UTC)reply
Israel
...is defined by the green line. Ariel is outside of the line. I have restored the accurate description that it is in the West Bank. It is not okay for editors to incorporate false information using Wikipedia's narrative voice. Sean.hoyland - talk03:42, 29 December 2011 (UTC)reply