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I was wondering if this page (and the associated ones) might not be better named something like Bare-handed Pelota First League and Bare-handed Pelota Second League. The current name with 1st at the beginning just doesn't work well in English. Similarly, Hand-Pelota is also slightly misleading as they all involve the hands in a way. Thought? Akerbeltz ( talk) 09:56, 23 May 2013 (UTC) reply

I think that you're right, Akerbeltz. The names you propose ( Bare-handed Pelota First League and Bare-handed Pelota Second League) are both semantically much clearer and grammatically more correct. -- Xabier Armendaritz ^(talk) 17:14, 26 May 2013 (UTC) reply

Anyway, "league" would be misleading. Although part of this competition is sometimes a league, most of it uses to be a single-elimination tournament (and, nowadays, all of it is a single-elimination tournament — see, for example, this table that shows the matches of this year's championship, which is going on right now). I think "championship" should remain. -- Xabier Armendaritz ^(talk) 22:44, 27 May 2013 (UTC) reply

Thanks. It's been almost a week and given that the titles are really bad English, I'm going to move them. It shouldn't be contentious. Akerbeltz ( talk) 10:47, 28 May 2013 (UTC) reply