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The current version of the Health care section looks like everything ended in 2012. At the close of the current Supreme Court session, the Hobby Lobby case was decided and should be included in this section to avoid the appearance of being an oversight. I have introduced two versions now (User:Scjessey said the first version was too long), and one of the two versions in either shorter or longer form should be retained; otherwise the section gives the impression to readers that nothing occurred since 2012 according to Wikipedia, and that the 2014 Hobby Lobby Supreme Court decision influencing the Health care plan did not take place. LawrencePrincipe ( talk) 20:36, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
In Burwell v. Hobby Lobby (2014), the Supreme Court ruled that, under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act closely held for-profit corporations to be exempt from a Health and Human Services regulation adopted under the Affordable Care Act, requiring employers to cover certain contraceptives for their female employees.
- I think the last line of that section should be: "Obama signed the bill into law on March 23, 2010." Everything after that should be deleted, because (a) it exists in other articles (to which this article links), and (b) it concerns the legislation and not Barack Obama specifically. Again, this is a summary style article, and we must strive for the concise. This is just one of several sections where topics have been expanded into too much detail. Moreover, this SCOTUS ruling is a narrowly-specified event. It only impacts the employees of closely-held companies whose owners have religious objections, which is a small number of Americans compared to the scope of the ACA itself. -- Scjessey ( talk) 15:15, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
@Wikidemon and Dave Dial - What of my thoughts about the section being too long already? Much of this doesn't seem biographically significant to me. - Scjessey ( talk) 10:24, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Reported by the BBC, Obama becomes the first president to be sued by the Senate. Possibly an ITN-worthy development, but this is well outside my field of expertise, so will leave this for those better qualified than I am to decide. Mjroots ( talk) 11:49, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
On Obama's Certificate of Live Birth (which does differ from a birth certificate), it says he was born in Hawaii. There are no cites on this page to where he was born from or certificate of live birth pictures on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.134.38.84 ( talk • contribs)
Many of the cites on this page link to commercial websites or propaganda news sites. Preferably on wikipedia, .edu or .org would be better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.134.38.84 ( talk) 17:18, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Obama referred to his appearance and that of Angela Merkel in his speech in Berlin on 19/6/2013. This should be in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.16.147.16 ( talk) 09:31, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories article is to be referred to. But the problem is not in his Moslem faith according to the Shariah law, even though he can be called a Christian according to the US church law. Clare Lopez, the CIA operative for 20 years, explained that in opinion of both her and many US Congress members Obama had switched sides in war on terror, recruiting jihadists in his administration http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/cia-expert-obama-switchedsides-in-war-on-terror/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.71.11.81 ( talk) 18:54, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
Dear users. This is very important part in the biography of the US president Barack Obama: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/06/10/obama-america-should-be-ashamed-of-gun-violence/ (Obama: America should be ‘ashamed’ of gun violence). Currently exists situation, when Wikipedia can lose the independence (the National Rifle Association not must govern here). Very bad precedent can be created (we not must let this). I ask to place the info of the source above - in the article about the US president (it is part of his biography - I do the accent on this important moment). Thank you. The article has lock (I can not do it self). Fully relevant information (for this article more of all). - 95.29.159.146 ( talk) 10:19, 7 September 2014 (UTC).
I was perusing this article and I clicked on a picture that is in the article that shows President Obama signing the Affordable Health Care Act. I noticed that the picture has been clearly altered. The man in the row on the far left (at the beginning of the row) watching the President sign the Act has been made to appear as if his hands are holding his naked genitals. He is pictured as having two right arms.... one arm down at his side and one with his arm in front of him. It looks like a piece of a separate picture has been edited into this picture. 96.24.134.133 ( talk) 20:38, 9 September 2014 (UTC) Carla Greene 96.24.134.133 ( talk) 20:38, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Why do you have Hillary Clinton as succeeding Obama as president of the U.S.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.195.166.11 ( talk) 18:22, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Is Obama Sunni or Shiite?
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/09/16/us/politics/gop-gains-strength-and-obama-gets-low-marks-poll-finds.html?_r=0 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/09/obama-hits-a-new-low-for-leadership-with-criticism-on-isis-immigration-alike/ http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/09/16/us/politics/18EARLYPOLL-DOC.html full poll
I think there should be at least a sentence added on how the Presidents approval ratings are now reaching GWB levels. The fact that his numbers are so low are historically newsworthy, therefore should be included into the encyclopedia.
"In September 2014, A New York Times/CBS News nation wide poll that was conducted from Sept 12 to 15 on landlines and cellphones with 1,009 adults of whom 854 were registered to vote, showed that Obama had a 40% overall job approval rating. Breaking down into 40% for the Economy, 34% for Foreign Policy, and 41% for Terrorism." Robertvincentswain ( talk) 15:44, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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Jonetan minale ( talk) 12:46, 9 October 2014 (UTC) was black
Did you see this (?) - http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/09/06/its-official-president-obama-is-the-best-economic-president-in-modern-times/ . It is based on Forbes's report. Does this information worth to be written here in the article ? M.Karelin ( talk) 16:27, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
In any event, the economic data chart needs to be updated from its current 2013 endpoint. 74.66.19.35 ( talk) 20:26, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
I don't necessarily think this should be added into the discussion. While he may turn out to be the most economically successful president in recent history, because of the way the economy works, and how history works for that matter, Barack Obama's success and his impact on the economy will not be fully known for some time after he leaves office. Amcorbe ( talk) 17:11, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Did you notice that there is NOTHING in the article about Crimea crisis and Obama's role (reaction) on it? Is not it important thing (?) (the main International event on 2014). M.Karelin ( talk) 13:10, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Article is 255k today, takes 20 seconds to load it. Would anyone please condense the article, in any way? -- Corriebertus ( talk) 11:11, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
The term has been so often used as a disparagement to the specific subject of the article that it is hardly NPOV anymore. Usually put in scare quotes to suggest to certain NPOV parties that somehow the work was illegitimate or even nefarious. Vote to re-label section "Non-profit work and Harvard Law School." "Non-profit" is wholly accurate and there could hardly be a more neutral term. The fact that the label is repeated three times in a short paragraph provides evidence that the intent of the authors is a covert labelling (smear) mechanism instead of plain bad writing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.25.13.90 ( talk) 13:13, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
The "see also" section on this article. Is it really necessary? Discuss. -- Scjessey ( talk) 16:21, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
I added the section as a place for article links that aren't present elsewhere in the article. Going through the article again, however, I found the link from "44th" to "List of Presidents...". So, I now agree that the "See also" section isn't needed in this article, and will remove it. WCCasey ( talk) 22:51, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
The "see also" section on this article. Is it really necessary? Discuss. -- Scjessey ( talk) 16:21, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
I added the section as a place for article links that aren't present elsewhere in the article. Going through the article again, however, I found the link from "44th" to "List of Presidents...". So, I now agree that the "See also" section isn't needed in this article, and will remove it. WCCasey ( talk) 22:51, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Current version
Applying the proceeds of a book deal, the family moved in 2005 from a Hyde Park, Chicago condominium to a $1.6 million house in neighboring Kenwood, Chicago.[351] The purchase of an adjacent lot—and sale of part of it to Obama by the wife of developer, campaign donor and friend Tony Rezko—attracted media attention because of Rezko's subsequent indictment and conviction on political corruption charges that were unrelated to Obama.[352]
This is biased.
A biased version the other way could read: Obama is evil. He and corrupt Rezko had a deal for his house. Rezko was subsequently indicted.
A neutral version should improve on the following...
1. I do not see in the references that the book deal paid for the house. Who made that determination? The reference says the book deal paid for law school and campaign costs. Conclusion: FALSE INFORMATION IN WIKIPEDIA
2. There is no mention of the facts of the controversy, that the price was a special deal that Rezko offered. At least, that's what the (#352) reference says.
Possible better version
The Obama family moved in 2005 from a Hyde Park, Chicago condominium to a $1.6 million house in neighboring Kenwood, Chicago.[351] The purchase of an adjacent lot—and sale of part of it to Obama by the wife of developer, campaign donor and friend Tony Rezko—attracted media attention because of the price that Rezko sold it to Obama, which Obama called a "boneheaded" "mistake" and Rezko's subsequent indictment and conviction on political corruption charges that were unrelated to Obama.[352]
-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sam Claus ( talk • contribs)
Looking at the history of these two contributors, they seem to support a positive view of President Obama. Therefore, this should not be done. Instead, Wikipedia should have a neutral view.
From a historical perspective, it was significant during that year of President Obama's life.
@Wikidemon, did you see proof in that reference that the house was paid for by the book money? I think it is false information or information with no reference. Sam Claus ( talk) 01:31, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
The Rezko incident is significant because it showed that President Obama was not a corrupt politician, just like Nixon was innocent during the Checkers incident. However, President Obama realized that it looked bad and admitted it was boneheaded. He did not try to stonewall and not answer questions. Sam Claus ( talk) 01:50, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
This edit was settled by agreement of over 5 editors for including the academic review of Obama's completed first term on the basis of other President pages who have completed at least one term having comparable assessment sections included on their pages. User:TBSchemer was apparently a one editor hold-out against at least 5 opposing editors, and then withdrew his edit after a week or two of back-and-forth. Now TBSchemer has returned for a second bite at the apple to delete the section. Pinging to all involved editors for response/opinion @ HiLo48:@ Scjessey:@ DD2K:@ Jeremy112233:@ NathanWubs:@ Somchai Sun:. Is the deletion warranted for material assessing the completed first term and posted for the last 7 months. FelixRosch ( TALK) 17:10, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
This is the link to the original version of the discussion at Archive #78, Section #36 here: [1] FelixRosch ( TALK) 21:08, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
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[long cut-and-paste of April 2014 discussion redacted because it will mess up indexing, among other things - Wikidemon ( talk) 17:14, 22 November 2014 (UTC)]
Please, stop referring to Obama as African-American and to him being the first African-American President. First, Obama is NOT African-American, he is half white and half African-American, and second, it might be of the Democrats interest to be able to make the claim of first African-American president, but it is not the truth. I am African-American and I find it an insult to refer to Obama as being of my race and heritage. 2001:5B0:2DFF:2EF0:0:0:0:3E ( talk) 23:39, 8 November 2014 (UTC) Kat Dollase
Many groups are referred to by their ethnicity and or nationality and "race", and oftentimes, if there are multiple of these, they will be referred to by that which is more in the minority. In the United States, there are less African Americans than whites. I'm sure he'd be the first "white" president if all the U.S. presidents and the founders had been from Africa. Dustin (talk) 04:19, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Obama is a Mulatto. A person of mixed white and black ancestry, especially one having one white and one black parent. Source of definition is Yahoo's dictionary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BigDirty68 ( talk • contribs) 11:29, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Obama's Climate Change deal with Xi Jinping should have a place on this page either in the Environmental or Foreign Policy section. It might even deserve a place in the opening paragraphs as I'd argue its the biggest foreign policy accomplishment of his second term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yanks27th ( talk • contribs) 19:57, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
Smoking is legal. Smoking in children is bad but smoking in adults is completely legal. Wikipedia should never (and I am not saying it does) try to make smoking good or bad.
Now for the President Obama part....
Current version Obama tried to quit smoking several times, sometimes using nicotine replacement therapy, and, in early 2010, Michelle Obama said that he had successfully quit smoking.[359][360]
This is not bad at all. However, it tells the half story. The fact is that President Obama is on nicotine gum therapy. This is well reported. He was even chewing nicotine gum in China recently, which he was savagely attacked for chewing gum. This attack was unjustified because he was chewing nicotine gum, not regular chewing gum.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2014/06/12/obama-still-chewing-nicotine-gum
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/president-obama-health-107797.html
http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/19/obama-on-nicorette-use-im-not-a-purist/
Better version... Obama tried to quit smoking several times and, in early 2010, Michelle Obama said that he had successfully quit smoking[359][360] though he continues to use nicotine gum.(add some of these references)
There is this information in article:
Heading: As Illinois State Senator (1997–2004)
... Obama was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996 ...
It's confusing to me. If he was elected in 1996, why heading contains that he was senator from 1997? Does it mean he was elected in 96 but started in function in 97? This probably should be clarified somehow. Petrb ( talk) 16:44, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
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One of President Obama’s biggest goals since taking over presidency in 2008 was to fix the broken immigration system.
[1] Today, there are about 11 million undocumented individuals in the United States. President Obama has urged congress to come up with a comprehensive immigration reform to give undocumented individuals a pathway to citizenship. This process would include “passing a background check, paying taxes, paying a penalty, learning English, and then going to the back of the line, behind all the folks who are trying to come here legally”.
[2] President Obama’s plan also calls for continued “efforts in securing the nations borders and to crack down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants”.
[3] Ultimately, he’s trying give any undocumented individual, who’s not a criminal, an opportunity in the United States while securing down all borders from people who are trying to come here illegally. However, since President Obama has taken office, more than two million undocumented immigrants have been deported.Cite error: A <ref>
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help page)./misplaced_priorities_march_2014.pdf|website=Immigration Policy|accessdate=11 December 2014}}</ref> Not all of these individuals had a criminal conviction.
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Under the Obama administration, Congress has been at work on fixing the broken immigrant system, but have yet to come up with a solution. They have reintroduced and revised the DREAM ACT
[5] bill multiplies times in 2009, 2010, and 2011. None of them passed. They have also created a bipartisanship comprehensive immigration reform bill, the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013,
[6] which the House of Representative still hasn’t act on. However the Obama administration have come up with a temporary solution, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals
[7] and Deferred Action for Parental Accountability
[8], for young undocumented immigrants and undocumented parents of a U.S citizens or legal permanent residents. Since taking over in 2008, President Obama, the House of Representative, and the Senate have yet come up with an agreement for a comprehensive immigration reform bill to fix the nation’s broken immigration system.
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How come refs 2, 26, 33, 67, 130, 132, 139, 190, 198, 259, 277, 290, and 150-152 are marked as deadurl=yes while in reality they are not?-- Mishae ( talk) 16:01, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
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See also: List of things named after Barack Obama
It was announced in April 2014 that the Barack Obama College Preparatory High School will open in Chicago, Illinois in 2017.[369]
Presidential library
The deadline for bids for the Obama library was set for June 16, 2014, with several major bids originating in the city of Chicago.[370] Among the leading bids proposed for the competition were proposals from the University of Chicago, the University of Illinois at Chicago, Columbia University in New York and the University of Hawaii.[371]
Is it really appropriate to have a section for the legacy of a president who hasn't even left office yet? Once he leaves office, information on his presidential library (or his overall place in history, for that matter) may be included. But considering the fact that he hasn't left office yet, along with the fact the school that was supposed to be named for him mentioned in the article is no longer being named for him, it seems that it is still too soon for there to be anything noteworthy to be included in such a section.-- Joker123192 ( talk) 05:56, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
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Family Life He met Michelle Obama when they were among the few African American at their law firm, Sidley Austin. Their relationship started with a Business lunch and then a community organization meeting where she first impressed her. The couple first date was to the spike Lee movie Do the right thing. Then they got married in October 1992, and had two daughters name Malia Ann (born, 1998) and Natasha (known as Sasha, born 2001. After the election to the US Senate, the Obama family continued to live on Chicago’s South Side, choosing to remain there rather than moving to Washington, D.C. despite their family obligation and career, they continue to attempt to schedule date night while they lived in Chicago. Their daughter attended the University of Chicago Laboratory Schools, a private school. Malia and Sasha now attend Sidwell Friends School in Washington, after also considering Georgetown Day School. Michelle said in one of her interview on The Ellen DeGeneres Show that they do not intend to have any more children. Barack Obama wife Michelle mother has moved into the white house to assist with child care. ref Haideecruz ( talk) 17:34, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
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Obama called for Congress to pass legislation reforming health care in the United States, a key campaign promise and a top legislative goal. ref name health reform He proposed an expansion of health insurance coverage to cover the uninsured, to cap premium increases, and to allow people to retain their coverage when they leave or change jobs. His proposal was to spend $900 billion over 10 years and include a government insurance plan, also known as the public option, to compete with the corporate insurance sector as a main component to lowering costs and improving quality of health care. It would also make it illegal for insurers to drop sick people or deny them coverage for pre-existing conditions, and require every American to carry health coverage. The plan also includes medical spending cuts and taxes on insurance companies that offer expensive plans. The New York Times-Obama Obama will hedge on public option-Politico
On July 14, 2009, House Democratic leaders introduced a 1,017-page plan for overhauling the U.S. health care system, which Obama wanted Congress to approve by the end of 2009. health reform-Lynn Sweet After much public debate during the Congressional summer recess of 2009, Obama delivered a speech to a joint session of Congress on September 9 where he addressed concerns over the proposals. CNN CNN-Archive In March 2009, Obama lifted a ban on using federal funds for stem cell research. Stem cell-Guardian
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In March 2009, Obama lifted a ban on using federal funds for stem cell research. Stem cell-Guardian
On July 14, 2009, House Democratic leaders introduced a 1,017-page plan for overhauling the U.S. health care system, which Obama wanted Congress to approve by the end of 2009. health reform-Lynn Sweet
On July 22, 2009, Obama called for Congress to pass legislation reforming health care in the United States, a key campaign promise and a top legislative goal. He proposed an expansion of health insurance coverage to cover the uninsured, to cap premium increases, and to allow people to retain their coverage when they leave or change jobs. His proposal was to spend $900 billion over 10 years and include a government insurance plan, also known as the public option, to compete with the corporate insurance sector as a main component to lowering costs and improving quality of health care. It would also make it illegal for insurers to drop sick people or deny them coverage for pre-existing conditions, and require every American to carry health coverage. The plan also included medical spending cuts and taxes on insurance companies that offer expensive plans. New York Times2 Politico2
After much public debate during the Congressional summer recess of 2009, Obama delivered a speech to a joint session of Congress on September 9 where he addressed concerns over the proposals. CNN2 CNN2-Archive Lgezelius ( talk) 02:45, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
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(talk) 23:26, 18 December 2014 (UTC)Sigh. These shouldn't be here, to be honest. -- Scjessey ( talk) 17:03, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't the developments of Cuba be added to the opening paragraph? Seems that would be a pretty monumental accomplishment. Also, seeing as how the opening already mentions the Republican takeover of the House in the 2010 elections, wouldn't it complete that picture to add in a similar reference in the opening to the Republican takeover of Congress overall in 2014? 2602:306:8343:5980:B9F2:F973:7411:6ED0 ( talk) 01:03, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Can it UK pronunciation be sourced? Need it be? I put a cn-tag on it, but it was removed. Is it relevant at all to give a UK-pronunciation for an American? –– St.nerol ( talk) 00:25, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
I agree wholeheartedly with Scjessey here - there is no need for this, and there is no consensus for this addition. Discuss if you like, but please don't re-add to the article without consensus. Tvoz/ talk 07:36, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
The Nobel Peace Prize for Obama is heavily critized everywhere, maybe this should be mentioned. Source: https://www.google.com/search?q=obama+peace+prize — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.4.244.130 ( talk) 18:50, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
I would agree, except that there isn't any readily visible mentions of or links to "criticism" of Obama anywhere on his page here at all, so what does it matter? For anyone who doesn't know any better, he's never had any criticisms, nor any controversies or scandals during his entire presidency. Isn't it amazing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:BCB0:7600:18A4:1147:C08A:4F3C ( talk) 08:28, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
I want more about the Dunham ancestors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.238.140.10 ( talk) 15:08, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
How about a hyperlink to the city of Chicago. Throughout the article there are hyperlinks to other places and instituitions, but when the word Chicago comes up, there is no hyperlink, not throughout the entire article. This is very strange and should be changed. Afterall, this is where his political career began, where he spent a large portion of his life, and what he considers his hometown. It's ogg Wikipedia choses to have no hyperlinks to Chicago whatsoever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.112.134 ( talk) 01:09, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Shouldn't the infobox list him as an incumbent, and not give the 2009 - 2017 dates it currently does? If you check out
Joe Biden or
Francois Hollande, both are listed as incumbents and only the "assumed office" date is given.
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Barack Obama place of birth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQcd41RO25k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqrTsz1wQIM
you have his birth place wrong he was not born in the usa he was born in kenyan the 3 videos above obama says he was born in kenyan and so did his wife. 108.180.154.228 ( talk) 08:23, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Not done - YouTube is not a reliable source - Arjayay ( talk) 08:31, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
There is no RS possible, because it isn't true. Was this request posted by Donald Trump? It's 2015, folks. Tvoz/ talk 08:56, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
I take issue with the statement that Barak Obama II is America's first African-American president. Yes, Mr. Obama has black skin color. However, his ancestry shows that Mr. Obama is not a full-blooded Negro. His father, Barak Obama, Sr. was born near Lake Victoria in Kenya, Africa. Barak Obama, Sr. is a Negro. His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, an American from Kansas, USA, of mostly English ancestry was a Caucasian. Therefore, their son, Barak Obama II, is a mixed-race individual. This means Barak Obama II is America's first multi-racial president. With all due respect, I think the Wikipedia entry should be changed from America's first African-American president to America's first multi-racial president. This is historically important because it is the first time America has had a president of such heritage. I believe accuracy is important. Thank you for allowing me to express my opinion and to make my suggestion. M.X.Dexter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.29.146.111 ( talk) 19:18, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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First Mulato President (father was african american, mother was white) in replacement of first african american president. Mermaidgirl87 ( talk) 02:48, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
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70.57.7.64 ( talk) 20:17, 21 February 2015 (UTC) Your article describes his father as African American - the man was Kenyan not American so the description is incorrect. 70.57.7.64 ( talk) 20:17, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
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I have again reverted Ajlipp's edit that added the Barack Obama Foundation to the "official site" item of the infobox for two reasons:
I think we shouldn't change it until after Obama's presidency. Thoughts? -- Scjessey ( talk) 15:27, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
that grinning photo is terrible, Obama rarely looks like that. He usually looks much more sober and serious. farther down in the page, OK, but "above the fold" should be a more familiar picture. 67.243.29.174 ( talk) 21:56, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
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I feel as if there is too little information about the complications surrounding the initial rollout of the ACA, particularly the technical problems with the federal website. I also noticed that there is no mention, at least under "healthcare reform", of the confusion over who can keep their plan and who cannot. I am not saying we need to go full fox news about this or that criticisms should be a major portion of the subsection, but at the very least a sentence or two are needed to maintain an unbiased description. Please let me know what you think about this. Tacocar ( talk) 22:43, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
I removed the "activepol=yes" parameter because Obama is not running for office, he is not campaigning for re-election, n or is he involved in some current political conflict or controversy as far as I am aware. Therefore surely he meets none of the criteria for that template. — This, that and the other (talk) 08:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
He's just as white as he is black. What is the excuse for this racism? DawnDusk ( talk) 08:13, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Why nothing on his undergraduate work as in GPA and how did he finance all this education through Harvard Law. Did he really register as a foreign student when in undergrad school. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:31C9:EEF0:4DEF:6385:A719:E4D1 ( talk) 20:06, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
My suggestion for the main article: "As president and as Commander-in-chief, I take full responsibility for all our counterterrorism operations including the one that inadvertently took the lives of Warren and Giovanni," Obama said Thursday morning in the White House briefing room, where he apologized on behalf of the U.S. government. ref. http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/23/politics/white-house-hostages-killed/index.html Probably place this to the Foreign policy section. 91.83.252.211 ( talk) 15:25, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
One of our favorite ex-editors is stirring up the "article isn't NPOV!" pot over at the Free Republic, so keep an eye out for vandalism today. Tarc ( talk) 15:01, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
needed?
This edit added
to various parts of the article. How does that improve the article? Should it be removed from the article?
SMP0328. (
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is a
non-breaking space which means that when a line wraps, it will not break between the number and the following word. The usages are debatable as there is a school of thought that a whole word like "million" should be allowed to wrap to the next line, and there's not much likelihood of someone thinking a value is only $10 by missing the "million" on the next line. On the other hand, perhaps the values are best if "million" is kept with the number. I think it's ok.
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Most of the article has cite templates. However, the Further reading section does not although the References section does. It looks like the cite templates are forgotten in the Further reading section. -- Oldnewnew ( talk) 00:47, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
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You have twice added a bogus {{ connected contributor}} to this talk page: diff + diff. That is something to do with a rather cheeky accusation on your talk about a claimed COI with regard to Steinway & Sons, aka WP:POINT. Please explain your connection with the subject of this article or revert your edit. Johnuniq ( talk) 03:24, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
There are some dead links in the article. One of the dead links has a {{Dead link|date=October 2014}} tag but there are more than just one link with a problem. See http://dispenser.homenet.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/webchecklinks.py?page=Barack_Obama. If someone would like to help finding the new URL for these websites or restore the dead and problematic links it would be great. -- Oldnewnew ( talk) 18:06, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
I see that on this and other pages the spouse's surname is shown as their pre-marriage surname. I started discussion about this on Template_talk:Infobox_person#Spouse_parameter_and_surnames and on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Biography#Spouse_parameter_and_surnames but have received little response. I can find no reason for this apparent trend. Per suggestion at the discussion, I've edited this page. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{ re}} 18:29, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
It is totally inexcusable that there is no mention of drone strikes in Pakistan in this article's foreign policy section. All we require is a short paragraph about this extremely notable Obama administration foreign policy and the controversies relating to it. Otherwise this is article is not credible as supposedly impartial and comprehensive. JJARichardson ( talk) 14:27, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
The drone strikes have been significantly expanded under Obama, and it's a point of contention among the left-wing that he has done so. Fundamental to Obama's foreign policy agenda has been a shift from conventional warfare to drones. Also bear in mind, as the article on the drone strikes states, that this has resulted in an increase in civilian deaths which the Pakistani prime minster has publicity opposed and which Amnesty International has spoken out against as potentially criminal. Conversely, the intervention in Libya resulted in sparing civilian deaths and had substantial levels of support internationally, including of course from the UN which is apparently perturbed by the drone strikes. JJARichardson ( talk) 16:52, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
This may be your opinion, but objectively the sources state a concern about drone strikes based upon the civilian deaths caused by them along with concerns about sovereignty being violated. With all due respect, I reiterate my point that were are doing our users a disservice by essentially covering up the reality of this prominent issue in the body of this article. By all means, the drones should be discussed as length in the foreign policy article. It should be a concise paragraph in this one. I don't understand how a subject addressed by national governments, the UN and organizations like Amnesty is trivial. And yes, this would be balanced by the POV that drones are a more respectable and responsible kind of warfare. JJARichardson ( talk) 17:03, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Noting the use of any specific war weapon isn't my agenda... it's the fact that the expanded use of drone warfare in countries like Pakistan by the Obama administration is an extremely contentious policy on an international scale, as multiple reputable sources state. I still think that it's totally warranted that we mention it in this article's foreign policy section, even if it is just a sentence or two. JJARichardson ( talk) 23:12, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Does this bit of trivia really merit its own section? -- NeilN talk to me 23:52, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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I would like to change Obama's religion, he is cathlioc not christian. 162.104.7.236 ( talk) 14:13, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Bill Ayers should be included as the co-author. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.197.57 ( talk) 20:58, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Can we have a section on his failure to protect citizens right to liberty? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.38.144.70 ( talk) 00:36, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Is there a reason we don't have an article on Obama's filmography? With the release of 'Pitch Perfect 2', I went to see if it had been added to his filmography, and we don't have that article at all. -- ID man12 ID ( talk) 17:33, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
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LGBT ParagraphThe second paragraph of the LGBT section has absolutely nothing to do with LGBT rights whatsoever.-- Johnny 42 ( talk) 23:42, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
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President Obama is the first sitting United States Senator to be elected president since John Fitzgerald Kennedy. 2601:200:C100:52F4:2986:9E4E:888F:D626 ( talk) 21:29, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
CubaSo, it's okay to write a section about the Iran nukes - but wrong to write on the historic thaw with Cuba? sounds to me like something with a political motives. I'm going to insert it back right after the re-opening of the embassies later this month. Archway ( talk) 16:21, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
He's not an African American president racial-wiseHe's actually the first mixed race president. Are we going with his racial identity instead if his actual races here? If so, state racial identity-wise he's the first black American president, but he's racially the first mixed race president (that is, significantly mixed and not like 1/20 black like a few other presidents may be). If not, hop off of the bandwagon and stop calling his race just black. Black people don't have a white parent and it's disrespectful to his white family to call him black. Obama identifying as black is like disowning in his mother and her side of his family. If you're calling him black based on his phenotype, however, I'd say yes; he looks more black than white, so it should be stated that he is phenotypically black and racial-identity wise black, but ancestry-wise and racially, he's mixed race. I expect better of Wikipedia. We must stick to the facts and not popular opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.39.57 ( talk) 22:03, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Interesting topic proposed in this section, but in my humble opinion, although Blacks often say they are "African-American," doesn't a mother from America and a father from Africa make one African-American in its proper and literal sense? If that is the case, I believe the term is, in fact, best described for the current U.S. President. Conspirasee1 ( talk) 02:44, 8 July 2015 (UTC) |
Barak Obama is not the first African-American president. African-American denotes a group of people who are the ancestors of African slaves brought to the USA as slave laborers. Barak Obama is the first Black American president. He is not African-American, he is Kenyan-American. This needs to be corrected as it is historically incorrect and culturally offensive to the different nationalities that comprise the Black community in America. Yomij ( talk) 23:58, 12 July 2015 (UTC)yomij
I have substantially reworded the section on the Iran nuclear talks. Noting recentism, much of the previous content was, I felt, information that would not be particularly relevant in 10 years time. I tried to write it in a style that would make more sense in 10 years taking into account the unfolding events. I would like to acknowledge that contributions of the editors that I deleted. Thank you. Mozzie ( talk) 15:58, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Not a legitimate request, trolling from a Hungarian open proxy. Tarc ( talk) 12:51, 17 July 2015 (UTC) |
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I think that it is an important and remarkable fact. My suggestion for the main article: Obama is the first sitting president in a prison. Ref. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/17/us/obama-el-reno-oklahoma-prison.html?_r=0 Probably add also a picture from NYT: http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/07/17/us/17OBAMAWEBSUB/17OBAMAWEBSUB-superJumbo-v3.jpg . 91.83.4.106 ( talk) 23:13, 16 July 2015 (UTC) |
The article says "Nine months after his election, Obama was named the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize laureate". This is not accurate. Obama was elected president November 4, 2008. The winner of the Nobel peace price 2009 was announced October 9, 2009. This is eleven months after the election, not nine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivarw~enwiki ( talk • contribs) 10:33, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
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Barack now redirects here, so the hatnote needs to indicate this, therefore, the template should be changed from {{ redirect}} to {{ redirect2}}
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Which also clarifies why "Barack (disambiguation)" is indicated on the hatnote -- 67.70.32.190 ( talk) 04:42, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Done - Arjayay ( talk) 08:38, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
I saw a picture of him standing besides the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and it seemed that Barack Obama was smaller than him?! Unfortunately it could not be seen if or if not Erdogan was standing on a pedestal. -- 217.224.217.98 ( talk) 10:00, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
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Please change age from 53 to 54 because his birthday (August 4) just passed. 24.103.221.66 ( talk) 04:02, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
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There should be some mention that he had the nickname Barry. I mention this because I read this somewhere and wanted to check wiki to see if it was true because I never heard this. I ended up having to use another reference. So if I was using wiki to confirm this then others might.
Also it is interesting information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.102.163.50 ( talk • contribs)
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2012/07/04/when-president-obama-was-just-barry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.128.125.130 ( talk) 13:29, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/barry-obama-newsweek/2008/03/24/id/323286/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.128.125.130 ( talk) 13:31, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Why is he listed as "African American" rather than mixed race (his mother being white)? LeapUK ( talk) 11:26, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
For some reason, Bill Ayers is ommitted from even a mention in this article but he was a focal point of the 2008 campaign and their relation even has an article, Bill Ayers 2008 presidential election controversy. Move to add? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.14.57.197 ( talk) 18:35, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
+wholly inappropriate rationale in this edit.
It is irrelevant what the article is. If it's a featured article, then it shouldn't be because it doesn't include any criticism whatsoever. Alex ( talk) 21:06, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Hey. I wanted to ask you about this edit. You said that the content was not in the citation, but I can't copy+paste the content, can I? I would need to explain it in my own words... Alex ( talk) 00:07, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
I didn't invent facts.
David Axelrod, the president’s closest political adviser, began showing up at the “Terror Tuesday” meetings, his unspeaking presence a visible reminder of what everyone understood: a successful attack would overwhelm the president’s other aspirations and achievements.
— Jo Becker and Scott Shane, "Secret ‘Kill List’ Proves a Test of Obama’s Principles and Will", The New York Times
According to the source, the definition would be:
"Terror Tuesday" is a term for a secret national security meetings [attended by Mr. Obama] discussing persons to be assassinated by drone strikes.
The whole NYT article talks about this... Alex ( talk) 00:44, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
I've been watching, waiting to chime in. I could have almost left the last attempted edit, if not for the POV wording that you described to that editor. The "known for "Terror Tuesdays"" and such. There should probably be something mentioned here and the POTUS article. NPOV and succinct. Dave Dial ( talk) 04:24, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
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Is everyone seeing the Obama sidebar taking up most of the lede? It's sitting next to the infobox instead of below it, and it seems to be squashing the text from the lede into a funnel. Dave Dial ( talk) 00:47, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Not fixed: Dave Dial, the page initially loads correctly with the series template below the infobox. As the page finishes loading, the series template suddenly pops up to the left of the infobox to the same misplaced location as earlier. This is with Google Chrome. The problem persists, at least for some. Dustin (talk) 04:02, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
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The article states that the president was born in Honolulu. Shouldn't it state that he was born in Kenya? Haresandhounds ( talk) 21:15, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
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I would like to add some info that's need to bee updated
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There is no mention of his famous Trayvon Martin speech which I think the media seized on for gun control legislation. (mostly liberal outlets) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.49.148.92 ( talk) 19:20, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Why was The President's official formal title "The Honorable" off of his Wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.172.122.77 ( talk) 02:46, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
I would like to establish consensus on this before changing the lead.
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Just noting its existence. It's about a book linking Obama to Communists, Marxists, anti-Americans etc. Doug Weller talk 14:00, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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On January 4, 2016, the White House announced that Obama would sign Executive Actions in order to reduce gun violence. [1] StephenSanchez14 ( talk) 08:50, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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The talk pages for U.S. Presidents Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush carry the warning, “The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute…” Shouldn’t the talk pages for Gerald Ford, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama carry the same warning?-- Solomonfromfinland ( talk) 00:53, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
This is the only article that doesn't start by describing the person as "... is an American politician currently serving as..." See David Cameron, Nicolas Maduro, George W. Bush, Hillary Clinton, Justin Trudeau, etc. Is there a reason for this? Hamsterlopithecus ( talk) 21:13, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Is OpEdNews a reliable source? This seems like it belongs in this article somewhere. I'm having a bit of difficulty comprehending all this without a nice diagram, but apparently some sort of Canada-to-Gulf-coast pipeline already got completed anyway through Enbridge-owned segments constructed thanks to an Executive Order and the segments of which managed to sidestep the NEPA review process entirely? Having a look at Enbridge's own pipeline maps, it appears they have a pipeline running from the Alberta tar sands all the way to Chicago, Illinois and then back to Cushing, Oklahoma to connect with the rest of the Keystone pipeline segments, effectively completing the ability to transport oil from Canada to the Gulf Coast.
Perhaps a single sentence about this belongs in the Environmental Policy section? 174.45.178.216 ( talk) 06:12, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
First off, thanks to the editors who crafted a lot of great narrative content, especially the well-rounded lead.
As this page has grown and his presidency has encompassed everything a president does (speeches, policies, elections, and so on), it seems to have lost a good narrative flow. It's unfortunately not the Featured Article it was on the day of his election. Specifically, there's not a particularly cohesive narrative of his presidency. There's a long list of policy views and actions, but not a general history. This leads to a feeling that it's disconnected. I’ll note that Presidency of Barack Obama doesn’t have a cohesive narrative either, instead compromising several lists and a bunch of separate policy areas. Work on this page can carry over to that one.
As a model article I will point to Bill Clinton (and Hillary Clinton, although she’s not yet a president). The section on his presidency blends his political story, his personal quirks, his policy achievements (and failures), his overall effect on the country, and the broader context in which his presidency occurred, in a reasonably easy-to-follow way. The only section dedicated to particular policies (“Military and foreign events”) is a cohesive and roughly chronological account.
What would be great is a 10+ paragraph walkthrough of the general course of Obama’s presidency: the ups and downs, the major initiatives ( Obamacare and rebooting the economy in particular). Imagine if you want to read for 5 minutes about what he's done. It's not feasible to peruse through a dozen different sections on his energy, Iraq, health care, LGBT, immigration, etc. positions. That would be difficult to follow. The intricate details of his policy achievements are better suited to in-depth articles like Barack Obama social policy. Elevating the most notable accomplishments and trimming the others allows this article to stay reasonably-sized and engaging.
The way I think about it is as a biography: when you look back at the overall term, what are the most important bits and what is your general impression? Now condense that into an article for a general audience. The smaller initiatives aren't going to be defining aspects of his legacy. A good biography is going to include a well-balanced account from start to finish, mentioning landmark achievements, his biggest thematic priorities (and unsuccessful efforts), and all the other things swirling around, some of which are out of his control. Important aspects of his meta-presidency include the slow but steady economic growth, continued instability in the Middle East alongside the rise of ISIS, increasing public support for LGBT rights (helping him in 2012), a bigger and more heated focus on race relations, and the loss of Democratic majorities alongside increasingly stark political partisanship (see Tea Party). Many of these things are consequences of deeper trends, but he played a role in shaping or responding to each. You can't remove a person from their historical context.
It's also worth addressing the contrast between the campaign ideal of "Yes We Can" (political unity and racial solidarity), and the actual history. While we elected an African-American president, we didn't solve our deep-seated racial conundrums. Again, this is not his fault, but it's an important theme to explore.
And it's got to be chronological. A biography doesn't jump from topic to topic in each new chapter.
This is the general idea. I'll work on something but these things are always a collaborative effort.
This is an article tens of millions of people have read or will read and I’m excited to make it better. CaseyPenk ( talk) 23:25, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
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From the article:
Obama's Nobel Prize has been viewed skeptically in subsequent years, especially after the director of the Nobel Institute, Geir Lundestad, said Obama's Peace Prize was a "failure"
This suggests that the director of the Nobel Institute feels that Obama is undeserving of the award, while the referenced article actually states that the director expected the honor to deliver a boost to Obama, something he believes did not happen. In other words its a failure of the award to boost Obama, not a failure of Obama as the Wikipedia article seems to suggest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.81.151.2 ( talk) 14:21, November 29, 2015
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hi, im jayjaysofly1 and i just want permission to change his birthday every year, (age not the actual day.) And i would also like part ownership of this page... Only about 5%
Thats all thank you... please respond asap. Jayjaysofly1 ( talk) 15:42, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
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President Obama should not be referred to as the first African American President of the United States, but rather as the first Black president of the United States or as the first U.S. president of African descent, as Pres. Obama is not African American, but rather Kenyan and Anglo, German, Irish, Welsh, Swiss, and Scottish- his father was an immigrant from Kenya and his mother a white woman of mixed European ancestry from Kansas. African American is an ethnic group exclusive to the United States that is made up of the descendants of African slaves brought across the Atlantic from West Africa during the Transatlantic Slave Trade, which lasted from the 16th to the 19th century [1]. Though African Americans and President Obama both share African ancestry, African Americans alive today trace their ancestry back at least 100 years, while President Obama traces his ancestry back with his father. Yoyo itszozo ( talk) 23:02, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
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The argument above partly involves the reliability of Fox News on this subject. We actually have the article Fox News Channel controversies, which covers the bias and potential bias of this source in various cases. Keep this in mind when using this source, though it certainly is not blacklisted.
Scjessey, do you have other reliable sources to offer on the subject of the 2012 Benghazi attack? Dimadick ( talk) 13:14, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
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Barack Obama's real name has been revealed to be Barry Soetoro. could you change his birth name to that? 184.169.125.170 ( talk) 01:48, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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Technically, Mr Obama is of DIRECT African descent, so why is he listed as African American? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.90.21.142 ( talk) 19:52, 24 February 2016
African American?The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. >the first African American to hold the office >His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, born in Wichita, Kansas, was of mostly English ancestry. I am sure that this has been brought up before, but I still do not understand it? Isn't it as correct to say that he is a white president as it is to say he is an African American. I think this needs to be worded better. Here are a few things I propose: >the first person of mixed race to hold the office >the first half African American to hold the office >the first person of both African American and White descent to hold the office > first person of African American descent (if you cannot change it to the other ones, this is what it should be changed to) These are all correct. The current statement, to my knowledge, is incorrect, but maybe I am wrong? Correct me if this is the case. Beejsterb ( talk) 03:03, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
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I recently added the {{controversial}} tag to the article, because he has been the subject of significant controversy. The tags are on the articles of several recent presidents (Nixon, Carter, Reagan, and both Bushes). It was surprising when the tag wasn't on Clinton's article, due to the Lewinsky scandal, or even the Obama article, because Barack Obama is nowhere near as controversial as Bill Clinton however has generated some controversy (the citizenship controversy). MB298 ( talk) 04:43, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
I can't find anything about Syria in the "Foreign Policy" section. That seems like a fairly glaring omission, doesn't it? I think I may want to add one. Display name 99 ( talk) 23:40, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
When I for example view the German Wikipedia page about Barack Obama it mentions the global surveillance disclosures or how under Obama the drone strikes in Pakistan and Afghanistan continued and even got enlarged.
Also that under Barack Obama despite what he expressed before his first election, that he admires whistleblower as "valuable source" for information about government misconduct and promised to increase transparency of government actions, that despite these statements during his presidency more whistleblower got sued under the anti-espionage law from 1917 (which includes the death-sentence as punishment) than under all US presidents before him.
Is it because admins or some admins are trying to frustrate any attempt on the article about Barack Obama to be more balanced, or what are the reasons that this article barely highlights anything more than in a superficial light?
Also seriously under "Cybersecurity and Internet policy" the main part: "On February 12, 2013, President Obama signed Executive Order 13636, "Improving Critical Infrastructure Cybersecurity". The Executive Order is designed to increase the level of core capabilities for our critical infrastructure to manage cyber risk. It does this by focusing on three key areas: (1) information sharing, (2) privacy, and (3) the adoption of cybersecurity practices." Is directly taken from the source of the whitehouse, "The executive order is designed to increase the level of core capabilities for OUR critical infrastructure to manage cyber risk. (...) really? I mean really? Does it get any more biased and obvious? Dasnewhome ( talk) 20:03, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
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The current version of the Health care section looks like everything ended in 2012. At the close of the current Supreme Court session, the Hobby Lobby case was decided and should be included in this section to avoid the appearance of being an oversight. I have introduced two versions now (User:Scjessey said the first version was too long), and one of the two versions in either shorter or longer form should be retained; otherwise the section gives the impression to readers that nothing occurred since 2012 according to Wikipedia, and that the 2014 Hobby Lobby Supreme Court decision influencing the Health care plan did not take place. LawrencePrincipe ( talk) 20:36, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
In Burwell v. Hobby Lobby (2014), the Supreme Court ruled that, under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act closely held for-profit corporations to be exempt from a Health and Human Services regulation adopted under the Affordable Care Act, requiring employers to cover certain contraceptives for their female employees.
- I think the last line of that section should be: "Obama signed the bill into law on March 23, 2010." Everything after that should be deleted, because (a) it exists in other articles (to which this article links), and (b) it concerns the legislation and not Barack Obama specifically. Again, this is a summary style article, and we must strive for the concise. This is just one of several sections where topics have been expanded into too much detail. Moreover, this SCOTUS ruling is a narrowly-specified event. It only impacts the employees of closely-held companies whose owners have religious objections, which is a small number of Americans compared to the scope of the ACA itself. -- Scjessey ( talk) 15:15, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
@Wikidemon and Dave Dial - What of my thoughts about the section being too long already? Much of this doesn't seem biographically significant to me. - Scjessey ( talk) 10:24, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Reported by the BBC, Obama becomes the first president to be sued by the Senate. Possibly an ITN-worthy development, but this is well outside my field of expertise, so will leave this for those better qualified than I am to decide. Mjroots ( talk) 11:49, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
On Obama's Certificate of Live Birth (which does differ from a birth certificate), it says he was born in Hawaii. There are no cites on this page to where he was born from or certificate of live birth pictures on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.134.38.84 ( talk • contribs)
Many of the cites on this page link to commercial websites or propaganda news sites. Preferably on wikipedia, .edu or .org would be better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.134.38.84 ( talk) 17:18, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Obama referred to his appearance and that of Angela Merkel in his speech in Berlin on 19/6/2013. This should be in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.16.147.16 ( talk) 09:31, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories article is to be referred to. But the problem is not in his Moslem faith according to the Shariah law, even though he can be called a Christian according to the US church law. Clare Lopez, the CIA operative for 20 years, explained that in opinion of both her and many US Congress members Obama had switched sides in war on terror, recruiting jihadists in his administration http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/cia-expert-obama-switchedsides-in-war-on-terror/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.71.11.81 ( talk) 18:54, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
Dear users. This is very important part in the biography of the US president Barack Obama: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/06/10/obama-america-should-be-ashamed-of-gun-violence/ (Obama: America should be ‘ashamed’ of gun violence). Currently exists situation, when Wikipedia can lose the independence (the National Rifle Association not must govern here). Very bad precedent can be created (we not must let this). I ask to place the info of the source above - in the article about the US president (it is part of his biography - I do the accent on this important moment). Thank you. The article has lock (I can not do it self). Fully relevant information (for this article more of all). - 95.29.159.146 ( talk) 10:19, 7 September 2014 (UTC).
I was perusing this article and I clicked on a picture that is in the article that shows President Obama signing the Affordable Health Care Act. I noticed that the picture has been clearly altered. The man in the row on the far left (at the beginning of the row) watching the President sign the Act has been made to appear as if his hands are holding his naked genitals. He is pictured as having two right arms.... one arm down at his side and one with his arm in front of him. It looks like a piece of a separate picture has been edited into this picture. 96.24.134.133 ( talk) 20:38, 9 September 2014 (UTC) Carla Greene 96.24.134.133 ( talk) 20:38, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Why do you have Hillary Clinton as succeeding Obama as president of the U.S.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.195.166.11 ( talk) 18:22, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Is Obama Sunni or Shiite?
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/09/16/us/politics/gop-gains-strength-and-obama-gets-low-marks-poll-finds.html?_r=0 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/09/obama-hits-a-new-low-for-leadership-with-criticism-on-isis-immigration-alike/ http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/09/16/us/politics/18EARLYPOLL-DOC.html full poll
I think there should be at least a sentence added on how the Presidents approval ratings are now reaching GWB levels. The fact that his numbers are so low are historically newsworthy, therefore should be included into the encyclopedia.
"In September 2014, A New York Times/CBS News nation wide poll that was conducted from Sept 12 to 15 on landlines and cellphones with 1,009 adults of whom 854 were registered to vote, showed that Obama had a 40% overall job approval rating. Breaking down into 40% for the Economy, 34% for Foreign Policy, and 41% for Terrorism." Robertvincentswain ( talk) 15:44, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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Jonetan minale ( talk) 12:46, 9 October 2014 (UTC) was black
Did you see this (?) - http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/09/06/its-official-president-obama-is-the-best-economic-president-in-modern-times/ . It is based on Forbes's report. Does this information worth to be written here in the article ? M.Karelin ( talk) 16:27, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
In any event, the economic data chart needs to be updated from its current 2013 endpoint. 74.66.19.35 ( talk) 20:26, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
I don't necessarily think this should be added into the discussion. While he may turn out to be the most economically successful president in recent history, because of the way the economy works, and how history works for that matter, Barack Obama's success and his impact on the economy will not be fully known for some time after he leaves office. Amcorbe ( talk) 17:11, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Did you notice that there is NOTHING in the article about Crimea crisis and Obama's role (reaction) on it? Is not it important thing (?) (the main International event on 2014). M.Karelin ( talk) 13:10, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Article is 255k today, takes 20 seconds to load it. Would anyone please condense the article, in any way? -- Corriebertus ( talk) 11:11, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
The term has been so often used as a disparagement to the specific subject of the article that it is hardly NPOV anymore. Usually put in scare quotes to suggest to certain NPOV parties that somehow the work was illegitimate or even nefarious. Vote to re-label section "Non-profit work and Harvard Law School." "Non-profit" is wholly accurate and there could hardly be a more neutral term. The fact that the label is repeated three times in a short paragraph provides evidence that the intent of the authors is a covert labelling (smear) mechanism instead of plain bad writing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.25.13.90 ( talk) 13:13, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
The "see also" section on this article. Is it really necessary? Discuss. -- Scjessey ( talk) 16:21, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
I added the section as a place for article links that aren't present elsewhere in the article. Going through the article again, however, I found the link from "44th" to "List of Presidents...". So, I now agree that the "See also" section isn't needed in this article, and will remove it. WCCasey ( talk) 22:51, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
The "see also" section on this article. Is it really necessary? Discuss. -- Scjessey ( talk) 16:21, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
I added the section as a place for article links that aren't present elsewhere in the article. Going through the article again, however, I found the link from "44th" to "List of Presidents...". So, I now agree that the "See also" section isn't needed in this article, and will remove it. WCCasey ( talk) 22:51, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Current version
Applying the proceeds of a book deal, the family moved in 2005 from a Hyde Park, Chicago condominium to a $1.6 million house in neighboring Kenwood, Chicago.[351] The purchase of an adjacent lot—and sale of part of it to Obama by the wife of developer, campaign donor and friend Tony Rezko—attracted media attention because of Rezko's subsequent indictment and conviction on political corruption charges that were unrelated to Obama.[352]
This is biased.
A biased version the other way could read: Obama is evil. He and corrupt Rezko had a deal for his house. Rezko was subsequently indicted.
A neutral version should improve on the following...
1. I do not see in the references that the book deal paid for the house. Who made that determination? The reference says the book deal paid for law school and campaign costs. Conclusion: FALSE INFORMATION IN WIKIPEDIA
2. There is no mention of the facts of the controversy, that the price was a special deal that Rezko offered. At least, that's what the (#352) reference says.
Possible better version
The Obama family moved in 2005 from a Hyde Park, Chicago condominium to a $1.6 million house in neighboring Kenwood, Chicago.[351] The purchase of an adjacent lot—and sale of part of it to Obama by the wife of developer, campaign donor and friend Tony Rezko—attracted media attention because of the price that Rezko sold it to Obama, which Obama called a "boneheaded" "mistake" and Rezko's subsequent indictment and conviction on political corruption charges that were unrelated to Obama.[352]
-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sam Claus ( talk • contribs)
Looking at the history of these two contributors, they seem to support a positive view of President Obama. Therefore, this should not be done. Instead, Wikipedia should have a neutral view.
From a historical perspective, it was significant during that year of President Obama's life.
@Wikidemon, did you see proof in that reference that the house was paid for by the book money? I think it is false information or information with no reference. Sam Claus ( talk) 01:31, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
The Rezko incident is significant because it showed that President Obama was not a corrupt politician, just like Nixon was innocent during the Checkers incident. However, President Obama realized that it looked bad and admitted it was boneheaded. He did not try to stonewall and not answer questions. Sam Claus ( talk) 01:50, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
This edit was settled by agreement of over 5 editors for including the academic review of Obama's completed first term on the basis of other President pages who have completed at least one term having comparable assessment sections included on their pages. User:TBSchemer was apparently a one editor hold-out against at least 5 opposing editors, and then withdrew his edit after a week or two of back-and-forth. Now TBSchemer has returned for a second bite at the apple to delete the section. Pinging to all involved editors for response/opinion @ HiLo48:@ Scjessey:@ DD2K:@ Jeremy112233:@ NathanWubs:@ Somchai Sun:. Is the deletion warranted for material assessing the completed first term and posted for the last 7 months. FelixRosch ( TALK) 17:10, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
This is the link to the original version of the discussion at Archive #78, Section #36 here: [1] FelixRosch ( TALK) 21:08, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
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Please, stop referring to Obama as African-American and to him being the first African-American President. First, Obama is NOT African-American, he is half white and half African-American, and second, it might be of the Democrats interest to be able to make the claim of first African-American president, but it is not the truth. I am African-American and I find it an insult to refer to Obama as being of my race and heritage. 2001:5B0:2DFF:2EF0:0:0:0:3E ( talk) 23:39, 8 November 2014 (UTC) Kat Dollase
Many groups are referred to by their ethnicity and or nationality and "race", and oftentimes, if there are multiple of these, they will be referred to by that which is more in the minority. In the United States, there are less African Americans than whites. I'm sure he'd be the first "white" president if all the U.S. presidents and the founders had been from Africa. Dustin (talk) 04:19, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Obama is a Mulatto. A person of mixed white and black ancestry, especially one having one white and one black parent. Source of definition is Yahoo's dictionary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BigDirty68 ( talk • contribs) 11:29, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Obama's Climate Change deal with Xi Jinping should have a place on this page either in the Environmental or Foreign Policy section. It might even deserve a place in the opening paragraphs as I'd argue its the biggest foreign policy accomplishment of his second term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yanks27th ( talk • contribs) 19:57, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
Smoking is legal. Smoking in children is bad but smoking in adults is completely legal. Wikipedia should never (and I am not saying it does) try to make smoking good or bad.
Now for the President Obama part....
Current version Obama tried to quit smoking several times, sometimes using nicotine replacement therapy, and, in early 2010, Michelle Obama said that he had successfully quit smoking.[359][360]
This is not bad at all. However, it tells the half story. The fact is that President Obama is on nicotine gum therapy. This is well reported. He was even chewing nicotine gum in China recently, which he was savagely attacked for chewing gum. This attack was unjustified because he was chewing nicotine gum, not regular chewing gum.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2014/06/12/obama-still-chewing-nicotine-gum
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/president-obama-health-107797.html
http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/19/obama-on-nicorette-use-im-not-a-purist/
Better version... Obama tried to quit smoking several times and, in early 2010, Michelle Obama said that he had successfully quit smoking[359][360] though he continues to use nicotine gum.(add some of these references)
There is this information in article:
Heading: As Illinois State Senator (1997–2004)
... Obama was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996 ...
It's confusing to me. If he was elected in 1996, why heading contains that he was senator from 1997? Does it mean he was elected in 96 but started in function in 97? This probably should be clarified somehow. Petrb ( talk) 16:44, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
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One of President Obama’s biggest goals since taking over presidency in 2008 was to fix the broken immigration system.
[1] Today, there are about 11 million undocumented individuals in the United States. President Obama has urged congress to come up with a comprehensive immigration reform to give undocumented individuals a pathway to citizenship. This process would include “passing a background check, paying taxes, paying a penalty, learning English, and then going to the back of the line, behind all the folks who are trying to come here legally”.
[2] President Obama’s plan also calls for continued “efforts in securing the nations borders and to crack down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants”.
[3] Ultimately, he’s trying give any undocumented individual, who’s not a criminal, an opportunity in the United States while securing down all borders from people who are trying to come here illegally. However, since President Obama has taken office, more than two million undocumented immigrants have been deported.Cite error: A <ref>
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help page)./misplaced_priorities_march_2014.pdf|website=Immigration Policy|accessdate=11 December 2014}}</ref> Not all of these individuals had a criminal conviction.
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Under the Obama administration, Congress has been at work on fixing the broken immigrant system, but have yet to come up with a solution. They have reintroduced and revised the DREAM ACT
[5] bill multiplies times in 2009, 2010, and 2011. None of them passed. They have also created a bipartisanship comprehensive immigration reform bill, the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013,
[6] which the House of Representative still hasn’t act on. However the Obama administration have come up with a temporary solution, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals
[7] and Deferred Action for Parental Accountability
[8], for young undocumented immigrants and undocumented parents of a U.S citizens or legal permanent residents. Since taking over in 2008, President Obama, the House of Representative, and the Senate have yet come up with an agreement for a comprehensive immigration reform bill to fix the nation’s broken immigration system.
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How come refs 2, 26, 33, 67, 130, 132, 139, 190, 198, 259, 277, 290, and 150-152 are marked as deadurl=yes while in reality they are not?-- Mishae ( talk) 16:01, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
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See also: List of things named after Barack Obama
It was announced in April 2014 that the Barack Obama College Preparatory High School will open in Chicago, Illinois in 2017.[369]
Presidential library
The deadline for bids for the Obama library was set for June 16, 2014, with several major bids originating in the city of Chicago.[370] Among the leading bids proposed for the competition were proposals from the University of Chicago, the University of Illinois at Chicago, Columbia University in New York and the University of Hawaii.[371]
Is it really appropriate to have a section for the legacy of a president who hasn't even left office yet? Once he leaves office, information on his presidential library (or his overall place in history, for that matter) may be included. But considering the fact that he hasn't left office yet, along with the fact the school that was supposed to be named for him mentioned in the article is no longer being named for him, it seems that it is still too soon for there to be anything noteworthy to be included in such a section.-- Joker123192 ( talk) 05:56, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
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Family Life He met Michelle Obama when they were among the few African American at their law firm, Sidley Austin. Their relationship started with a Business lunch and then a community organization meeting where she first impressed her. The couple first date was to the spike Lee movie Do the right thing. Then they got married in October 1992, and had two daughters name Malia Ann (born, 1998) and Natasha (known as Sasha, born 2001. After the election to the US Senate, the Obama family continued to live on Chicago’s South Side, choosing to remain there rather than moving to Washington, D.C. despite their family obligation and career, they continue to attempt to schedule date night while they lived in Chicago. Their daughter attended the University of Chicago Laboratory Schools, a private school. Malia and Sasha now attend Sidwell Friends School in Washington, after also considering Georgetown Day School. Michelle said in one of her interview on The Ellen DeGeneres Show that they do not intend to have any more children. Barack Obama wife Michelle mother has moved into the white house to assist with child care. ref Haideecruz ( talk) 17:34, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
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Obama called for Congress to pass legislation reforming health care in the United States, a key campaign promise and a top legislative goal. ref name health reform He proposed an expansion of health insurance coverage to cover the uninsured, to cap premium increases, and to allow people to retain their coverage when they leave or change jobs. His proposal was to spend $900 billion over 10 years and include a government insurance plan, also known as the public option, to compete with the corporate insurance sector as a main component to lowering costs and improving quality of health care. It would also make it illegal for insurers to drop sick people or deny them coverage for pre-existing conditions, and require every American to carry health coverage. The plan also includes medical spending cuts and taxes on insurance companies that offer expensive plans. The New York Times-Obama Obama will hedge on public option-Politico
On July 14, 2009, House Democratic leaders introduced a 1,017-page plan for overhauling the U.S. health care system, which Obama wanted Congress to approve by the end of 2009. health reform-Lynn Sweet After much public debate during the Congressional summer recess of 2009, Obama delivered a speech to a joint session of Congress on September 9 where he addressed concerns over the proposals. CNN CNN-Archive In March 2009, Obama lifted a ban on using federal funds for stem cell research. Stem cell-Guardian
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In March 2009, Obama lifted a ban on using federal funds for stem cell research. Stem cell-Guardian
On July 14, 2009, House Democratic leaders introduced a 1,017-page plan for overhauling the U.S. health care system, which Obama wanted Congress to approve by the end of 2009. health reform-Lynn Sweet
On July 22, 2009, Obama called for Congress to pass legislation reforming health care in the United States, a key campaign promise and a top legislative goal. He proposed an expansion of health insurance coverage to cover the uninsured, to cap premium increases, and to allow people to retain their coverage when they leave or change jobs. His proposal was to spend $900 billion over 10 years and include a government insurance plan, also known as the public option, to compete with the corporate insurance sector as a main component to lowering costs and improving quality of health care. It would also make it illegal for insurers to drop sick people or deny them coverage for pre-existing conditions, and require every American to carry health coverage. The plan also included medical spending cuts and taxes on insurance companies that offer expensive plans. New York Times2 Politico2
After much public debate during the Congressional summer recess of 2009, Obama delivered a speech to a joint session of Congress on September 9 where he addressed concerns over the proposals. CNN2 CNN2-Archive Lgezelius ( talk) 02:45, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
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(talk) 23:26, 18 December 2014 (UTC)Sigh. These shouldn't be here, to be honest. -- Scjessey ( talk) 17:03, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't the developments of Cuba be added to the opening paragraph? Seems that would be a pretty monumental accomplishment. Also, seeing as how the opening already mentions the Republican takeover of the House in the 2010 elections, wouldn't it complete that picture to add in a similar reference in the opening to the Republican takeover of Congress overall in 2014? 2602:306:8343:5980:B9F2:F973:7411:6ED0 ( talk) 01:03, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Can it UK pronunciation be sourced? Need it be? I put a cn-tag on it, but it was removed. Is it relevant at all to give a UK-pronunciation for an American? –– St.nerol ( talk) 00:25, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
I agree wholeheartedly with Scjessey here - there is no need for this, and there is no consensus for this addition. Discuss if you like, but please don't re-add to the article without consensus. Tvoz/ talk 07:36, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
The Nobel Peace Prize for Obama is heavily critized everywhere, maybe this should be mentioned. Source: https://www.google.com/search?q=obama+peace+prize — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.4.244.130 ( talk) 18:50, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
I would agree, except that there isn't any readily visible mentions of or links to "criticism" of Obama anywhere on his page here at all, so what does it matter? For anyone who doesn't know any better, he's never had any criticisms, nor any controversies or scandals during his entire presidency. Isn't it amazing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:BCB0:7600:18A4:1147:C08A:4F3C ( talk) 08:28, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
I want more about the Dunham ancestors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.238.140.10 ( talk) 15:08, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
How about a hyperlink to the city of Chicago. Throughout the article there are hyperlinks to other places and instituitions, but when the word Chicago comes up, there is no hyperlink, not throughout the entire article. This is very strange and should be changed. Afterall, this is where his political career began, where he spent a large portion of his life, and what he considers his hometown. It's ogg Wikipedia choses to have no hyperlinks to Chicago whatsoever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.112.134 ( talk) 01:09, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Shouldn't the infobox list him as an incumbent, and not give the 2009 - 2017 dates it currently does? If you check out
Joe Biden or
Francois Hollande, both are listed as incumbents and only the "assumed office" date is given.
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Barack Obama place of birth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQcd41RO25k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqrTsz1wQIM
you have his birth place wrong he was not born in the usa he was born in kenyan the 3 videos above obama says he was born in kenyan and so did his wife. 108.180.154.228 ( talk) 08:23, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Not done - YouTube is not a reliable source - Arjayay ( talk) 08:31, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
There is no RS possible, because it isn't true. Was this request posted by Donald Trump? It's 2015, folks. Tvoz/ talk 08:56, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
I take issue with the statement that Barak Obama II is America's first African-American president. Yes, Mr. Obama has black skin color. However, his ancestry shows that Mr. Obama is not a full-blooded Negro. His father, Barak Obama, Sr. was born near Lake Victoria in Kenya, Africa. Barak Obama, Sr. is a Negro. His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, an American from Kansas, USA, of mostly English ancestry was a Caucasian. Therefore, their son, Barak Obama II, is a mixed-race individual. This means Barak Obama II is America's first multi-racial president. With all due respect, I think the Wikipedia entry should be changed from America's first African-American president to America's first multi-racial president. This is historically important because it is the first time America has had a president of such heritage. I believe accuracy is important. Thank you for allowing me to express my opinion and to make my suggestion. M.X.Dexter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.29.146.111 ( talk) 19:18, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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First Mulato President (father was african american, mother was white) in replacement of first african american president. Mermaidgirl87 ( talk) 02:48, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
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70.57.7.64 ( talk) 20:17, 21 February 2015 (UTC) Your article describes his father as African American - the man was Kenyan not American so the description is incorrect. 70.57.7.64 ( talk) 20:17, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
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I have again reverted Ajlipp's edit that added the Barack Obama Foundation to the "official site" item of the infobox for two reasons:
I think we shouldn't change it until after Obama's presidency. Thoughts? -- Scjessey ( talk) 15:27, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
that grinning photo is terrible, Obama rarely looks like that. He usually looks much more sober and serious. farther down in the page, OK, but "above the fold" should be a more familiar picture. 67.243.29.174 ( talk) 21:56, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
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I feel as if there is too little information about the complications surrounding the initial rollout of the ACA, particularly the technical problems with the federal website. I also noticed that there is no mention, at least under "healthcare reform", of the confusion over who can keep their plan and who cannot. I am not saying we need to go full fox news about this or that criticisms should be a major portion of the subsection, but at the very least a sentence or two are needed to maintain an unbiased description. Please let me know what you think about this. Tacocar ( talk) 22:43, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
I removed the "activepol=yes" parameter because Obama is not running for office, he is not campaigning for re-election, n or is he involved in some current political conflict or controversy as far as I am aware. Therefore surely he meets none of the criteria for that template. — This, that and the other (talk) 08:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
He's just as white as he is black. What is the excuse for this racism? DawnDusk ( talk) 08:13, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Why nothing on his undergraduate work as in GPA and how did he finance all this education through Harvard Law. Did he really register as a foreign student when in undergrad school. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:31C9:EEF0:4DEF:6385:A719:E4D1 ( talk) 20:06, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
My suggestion for the main article: "As president and as Commander-in-chief, I take full responsibility for all our counterterrorism operations including the one that inadvertently took the lives of Warren and Giovanni," Obama said Thursday morning in the White House briefing room, where he apologized on behalf of the U.S. government. ref. http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/23/politics/white-house-hostages-killed/index.html Probably place this to the Foreign policy section. 91.83.252.211 ( talk) 15:25, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
One of our favorite ex-editors is stirring up the "article isn't NPOV!" pot over at the Free Republic, so keep an eye out for vandalism today. Tarc ( talk) 15:01, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
needed?
This edit added
to various parts of the article. How does that improve the article? Should it be removed from the article?
SMP0328. (
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is a
non-breaking space which means that when a line wraps, it will not break between the number and the following word. The usages are debatable as there is a school of thought that a whole word like "million" should be allowed to wrap to the next line, and there's not much likelihood of someone thinking a value is only $10 by missing the "million" on the next line. On the other hand, perhaps the values are best if "million" is kept with the number. I think it's ok.
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, e.g.: $11.5
trillion, $3
trillion, and $1.5
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being consistent, but I lean toward removing it throughout the article.
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percent. Would that be a good idea? --
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Most of the article has cite templates. However, the Further reading section does not although the References section does. It looks like the cite templates are forgotten in the Further reading section. -- Oldnewnew ( talk) 00:47, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
You have twice added a bogus {{ connected contributor}} to this talk page: diff + diff. That is something to do with a rather cheeky accusation on your talk about a claimed COI with regard to Steinway & Sons, aka WP:POINT. Please explain your connection with the subject of this article or revert your edit. Johnuniq ( talk) 03:24, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
There are some dead links in the article. One of the dead links has a {{Dead link|date=October 2014}} tag but there are more than just one link with a problem. See http://dispenser.homenet.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/webchecklinks.py?page=Barack_Obama. If someone would like to help finding the new URL for these websites or restore the dead and problematic links it would be great. -- Oldnewnew ( talk) 18:06, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
I see that on this and other pages the spouse's surname is shown as their pre-marriage surname. I started discussion about this on Template_talk:Infobox_person#Spouse_parameter_and_surnames and on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Biography#Spouse_parameter_and_surnames but have received little response. I can find no reason for this apparent trend. Per suggestion at the discussion, I've edited this page. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{ re}} 18:29, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
It is totally inexcusable that there is no mention of drone strikes in Pakistan in this article's foreign policy section. All we require is a short paragraph about this extremely notable Obama administration foreign policy and the controversies relating to it. Otherwise this is article is not credible as supposedly impartial and comprehensive. JJARichardson ( talk) 14:27, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
The drone strikes have been significantly expanded under Obama, and it's a point of contention among the left-wing that he has done so. Fundamental to Obama's foreign policy agenda has been a shift from conventional warfare to drones. Also bear in mind, as the article on the drone strikes states, that this has resulted in an increase in civilian deaths which the Pakistani prime minster has publicity opposed and which Amnesty International has spoken out against as potentially criminal. Conversely, the intervention in Libya resulted in sparing civilian deaths and had substantial levels of support internationally, including of course from the UN which is apparently perturbed by the drone strikes. JJARichardson ( talk) 16:52, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
This may be your opinion, but objectively the sources state a concern about drone strikes based upon the civilian deaths caused by them along with concerns about sovereignty being violated. With all due respect, I reiterate my point that were are doing our users a disservice by essentially covering up the reality of this prominent issue in the body of this article. By all means, the drones should be discussed as length in the foreign policy article. It should be a concise paragraph in this one. I don't understand how a subject addressed by national governments, the UN and organizations like Amnesty is trivial. And yes, this would be balanced by the POV that drones are a more respectable and responsible kind of warfare. JJARichardson ( talk) 17:03, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Noting the use of any specific war weapon isn't my agenda... it's the fact that the expanded use of drone warfare in countries like Pakistan by the Obama administration is an extremely contentious policy on an international scale, as multiple reputable sources state. I still think that it's totally warranted that we mention it in this article's foreign policy section, even if it is just a sentence or two. JJARichardson ( talk) 23:12, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Does this bit of trivia really merit its own section? -- NeilN talk to me 23:52, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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I would like to change Obama's religion, he is cathlioc not christian. 162.104.7.236 ( talk) 14:13, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Bill Ayers should be included as the co-author. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.197.57 ( talk) 20:58, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Can we have a section on his failure to protect citizens right to liberty? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.38.144.70 ( talk) 00:36, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Is there a reason we don't have an article on Obama's filmography? With the release of 'Pitch Perfect 2', I went to see if it had been added to his filmography, and we don't have that article at all. -- ID man12 ID ( talk) 17:33, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
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LGBT ParagraphThe second paragraph of the LGBT section has absolutely nothing to do with LGBT rights whatsoever.-- Johnny 42 ( talk) 23:42, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
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President Obama is the first sitting United States Senator to be elected president since John Fitzgerald Kennedy. 2601:200:C100:52F4:2986:9E4E:888F:D626 ( talk) 21:29, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
CubaSo, it's okay to write a section about the Iran nukes - but wrong to write on the historic thaw with Cuba? sounds to me like something with a political motives. I'm going to insert it back right after the re-opening of the embassies later this month. Archway ( talk) 16:21, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
He's not an African American president racial-wiseHe's actually the first mixed race president. Are we going with his racial identity instead if his actual races here? If so, state racial identity-wise he's the first black American president, but he's racially the first mixed race president (that is, significantly mixed and not like 1/20 black like a few other presidents may be). If not, hop off of the bandwagon and stop calling his race just black. Black people don't have a white parent and it's disrespectful to his white family to call him black. Obama identifying as black is like disowning in his mother and her side of his family. If you're calling him black based on his phenotype, however, I'd say yes; he looks more black than white, so it should be stated that he is phenotypically black and racial-identity wise black, but ancestry-wise and racially, he's mixed race. I expect better of Wikipedia. We must stick to the facts and not popular opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.39.57 ( talk) 22:03, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Interesting topic proposed in this section, but in my humble opinion, although Blacks often say they are "African-American," doesn't a mother from America and a father from Africa make one African-American in its proper and literal sense? If that is the case, I believe the term is, in fact, best described for the current U.S. President. Conspirasee1 ( talk) 02:44, 8 July 2015 (UTC) |
Barak Obama is not the first African-American president. African-American denotes a group of people who are the ancestors of African slaves brought to the USA as slave laborers. Barak Obama is the first Black American president. He is not African-American, he is Kenyan-American. This needs to be corrected as it is historically incorrect and culturally offensive to the different nationalities that comprise the Black community in America. Yomij ( talk) 23:58, 12 July 2015 (UTC)yomij
I have substantially reworded the section on the Iran nuclear talks. Noting recentism, much of the previous content was, I felt, information that would not be particularly relevant in 10 years time. I tried to write it in a style that would make more sense in 10 years taking into account the unfolding events. I would like to acknowledge that contributions of the editors that I deleted. Thank you. Mozzie ( talk) 15:58, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Not a legitimate request, trolling from a Hungarian open proxy. Tarc ( talk) 12:51, 17 July 2015 (UTC) |
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I think that it is an important and remarkable fact. My suggestion for the main article: Obama is the first sitting president in a prison. Ref. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/17/us/obama-el-reno-oklahoma-prison.html?_r=0 Probably add also a picture from NYT: http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/07/17/us/17OBAMAWEBSUB/17OBAMAWEBSUB-superJumbo-v3.jpg . 91.83.4.106 ( talk) 23:13, 16 July 2015 (UTC) |
The article says "Nine months after his election, Obama was named the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize laureate". This is not accurate. Obama was elected president November 4, 2008. The winner of the Nobel peace price 2009 was announced October 9, 2009. This is eleven months after the election, not nine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivarw~enwiki ( talk • contribs) 10:33, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
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Barack now redirects here, so the hatnote needs to indicate this, therefore, the template should be changed from {{ redirect}} to {{ redirect2}}
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Which also clarifies why "Barack (disambiguation)" is indicated on the hatnote -- 67.70.32.190 ( talk) 04:42, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Done - Arjayay ( talk) 08:38, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
I saw a picture of him standing besides the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and it seemed that Barack Obama was smaller than him?! Unfortunately it could not be seen if or if not Erdogan was standing on a pedestal. -- 217.224.217.98 ( talk) 10:00, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
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Please change age from 53 to 54 because his birthday (August 4) just passed. 24.103.221.66 ( talk) 04:02, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
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There should be some mention that he had the nickname Barry. I mention this because I read this somewhere and wanted to check wiki to see if it was true because I never heard this. I ended up having to use another reference. So if I was using wiki to confirm this then others might.
Also it is interesting information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.102.163.50 ( talk • contribs)
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2012/07/04/when-president-obama-was-just-barry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.128.125.130 ( talk) 13:29, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/barry-obama-newsweek/2008/03/24/id/323286/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.128.125.130 ( talk) 13:31, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Why is he listed as "African American" rather than mixed race (his mother being white)? LeapUK ( talk) 11:26, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
For some reason, Bill Ayers is ommitted from even a mention in this article but he was a focal point of the 2008 campaign and their relation even has an article, Bill Ayers 2008 presidential election controversy. Move to add? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.14.57.197 ( talk) 18:35, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
+wholly inappropriate rationale in this edit.
It is irrelevant what the article is. If it's a featured article, then it shouldn't be because it doesn't include any criticism whatsoever. Alex ( talk) 21:06, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Hey. I wanted to ask you about this edit. You said that the content was not in the citation, but I can't copy+paste the content, can I? I would need to explain it in my own words... Alex ( talk) 00:07, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
I didn't invent facts.
David Axelrod, the president’s closest political adviser, began showing up at the “Terror Tuesday” meetings, his unspeaking presence a visible reminder of what everyone understood: a successful attack would overwhelm the president’s other aspirations and achievements.
— Jo Becker and Scott Shane, "Secret ‘Kill List’ Proves a Test of Obama’s Principles and Will", The New York Times
According to the source, the definition would be:
"Terror Tuesday" is a term for a secret national security meetings [attended by Mr. Obama] discussing persons to be assassinated by drone strikes.
The whole NYT article talks about this... Alex ( talk) 00:44, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
I've been watching, waiting to chime in. I could have almost left the last attempted edit, if not for the POV wording that you described to that editor. The "known for "Terror Tuesdays"" and such. There should probably be something mentioned here and the POTUS article. NPOV and succinct. Dave Dial ( talk) 04:24, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
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Is everyone seeing the Obama sidebar taking up most of the lede? It's sitting next to the infobox instead of below it, and it seems to be squashing the text from the lede into a funnel. Dave Dial ( talk) 00:47, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Not fixed: Dave Dial, the page initially loads correctly with the series template below the infobox. As the page finishes loading, the series template suddenly pops up to the left of the infobox to the same misplaced location as earlier. This is with Google Chrome. The problem persists, at least for some. Dustin (talk) 04:02, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
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The article states that the president was born in Honolulu. Shouldn't it state that he was born in Kenya? Haresandhounds ( talk) 21:15, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
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I would like to add some info that's need to bee updated
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There is no mention of his famous Trayvon Martin speech which I think the media seized on for gun control legislation. (mostly liberal outlets) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.49.148.92 ( talk) 19:20, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Why was The President's official formal title "The Honorable" off of his Wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.172.122.77 ( talk) 02:46, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
I would like to establish consensus on this before changing the lead.
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Just noting its existence. It's about a book linking Obama to Communists, Marxists, anti-Americans etc. Doug Weller talk 14:00, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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On January 4, 2016, the White House announced that Obama would sign Executive Actions in order to reduce gun violence. [1] StephenSanchez14 ( talk) 08:50, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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The talk pages for U.S. Presidents Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush carry the warning, “The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute…” Shouldn’t the talk pages for Gerald Ford, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama carry the same warning?-- Solomonfromfinland ( talk) 00:53, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
This is the only article that doesn't start by describing the person as "... is an American politician currently serving as..." See David Cameron, Nicolas Maduro, George W. Bush, Hillary Clinton, Justin Trudeau, etc. Is there a reason for this? Hamsterlopithecus ( talk) 21:13, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Is OpEdNews a reliable source? This seems like it belongs in this article somewhere. I'm having a bit of difficulty comprehending all this without a nice diagram, but apparently some sort of Canada-to-Gulf-coast pipeline already got completed anyway through Enbridge-owned segments constructed thanks to an Executive Order and the segments of which managed to sidestep the NEPA review process entirely? Having a look at Enbridge's own pipeline maps, it appears they have a pipeline running from the Alberta tar sands all the way to Chicago, Illinois and then back to Cushing, Oklahoma to connect with the rest of the Keystone pipeline segments, effectively completing the ability to transport oil from Canada to the Gulf Coast.
Perhaps a single sentence about this belongs in the Environmental Policy section? 174.45.178.216 ( talk) 06:12, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
First off, thanks to the editors who crafted a lot of great narrative content, especially the well-rounded lead.
As this page has grown and his presidency has encompassed everything a president does (speeches, policies, elections, and so on), it seems to have lost a good narrative flow. It's unfortunately not the Featured Article it was on the day of his election. Specifically, there's not a particularly cohesive narrative of his presidency. There's a long list of policy views and actions, but not a general history. This leads to a feeling that it's disconnected. I’ll note that Presidency of Barack Obama doesn’t have a cohesive narrative either, instead compromising several lists and a bunch of separate policy areas. Work on this page can carry over to that one.
As a model article I will point to Bill Clinton (and Hillary Clinton, although she’s not yet a president). The section on his presidency blends his political story, his personal quirks, his policy achievements (and failures), his overall effect on the country, and the broader context in which his presidency occurred, in a reasonably easy-to-follow way. The only section dedicated to particular policies (“Military and foreign events”) is a cohesive and roughly chronological account.
What would be great is a 10+ paragraph walkthrough of the general course of Obama’s presidency: the ups and downs, the major initiatives ( Obamacare and rebooting the economy in particular). Imagine if you want to read for 5 minutes about what he's done. It's not feasible to peruse through a dozen different sections on his energy, Iraq, health care, LGBT, immigration, etc. positions. That would be difficult to follow. The intricate details of his policy achievements are better suited to in-depth articles like Barack Obama social policy. Elevating the most notable accomplishments and trimming the others allows this article to stay reasonably-sized and engaging.
The way I think about it is as a biography: when you look back at the overall term, what are the most important bits and what is your general impression? Now condense that into an article for a general audience. The smaller initiatives aren't going to be defining aspects of his legacy. A good biography is going to include a well-balanced account from start to finish, mentioning landmark achievements, his biggest thematic priorities (and unsuccessful efforts), and all the other things swirling around, some of which are out of his control. Important aspects of his meta-presidency include the slow but steady economic growth, continued instability in the Middle East alongside the rise of ISIS, increasing public support for LGBT rights (helping him in 2012), a bigger and more heated focus on race relations, and the loss of Democratic majorities alongside increasingly stark political partisanship (see Tea Party). Many of these things are consequences of deeper trends, but he played a role in shaping or responding to each. You can't remove a person from their historical context.
It's also worth addressing the contrast between the campaign ideal of "Yes We Can" (political unity and racial solidarity), and the actual history. While we elected an African-American president, we didn't solve our deep-seated racial conundrums. Again, this is not his fault, but it's an important theme to explore.
And it's got to be chronological. A biography doesn't jump from topic to topic in each new chapter.
This is the general idea. I'll work on something but these things are always a collaborative effort.
This is an article tens of millions of people have read or will read and I’m excited to make it better. CaseyPenk ( talk) 23:25, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
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From the article:
Obama's Nobel Prize has been viewed skeptically in subsequent years, especially after the director of the Nobel Institute, Geir Lundestad, said Obama's Peace Prize was a "failure"
This suggests that the director of the Nobel Institute feels that Obama is undeserving of the award, while the referenced article actually states that the director expected the honor to deliver a boost to Obama, something he believes did not happen. In other words its a failure of the award to boost Obama, not a failure of Obama as the Wikipedia article seems to suggest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.81.151.2 ( talk) 14:21, November 29, 2015
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hi, im jayjaysofly1 and i just want permission to change his birthday every year, (age not the actual day.) And i would also like part ownership of this page... Only about 5%
Thats all thank you... please respond asap. Jayjaysofly1 ( talk) 15:42, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
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President Obama should not be referred to as the first African American President of the United States, but rather as the first Black president of the United States or as the first U.S. president of African descent, as Pres. Obama is not African American, but rather Kenyan and Anglo, German, Irish, Welsh, Swiss, and Scottish- his father was an immigrant from Kenya and his mother a white woman of mixed European ancestry from Kansas. African American is an ethnic group exclusive to the United States that is made up of the descendants of African slaves brought across the Atlantic from West Africa during the Transatlantic Slave Trade, which lasted from the 16th to the 19th century [1]. Though African Americans and President Obama both share African ancestry, African Americans alive today trace their ancestry back at least 100 years, while President Obama traces his ancestry back with his father. Yoyo itszozo ( talk) 23:02, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
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The argument above partly involves the reliability of Fox News on this subject. We actually have the article Fox News Channel controversies, which covers the bias and potential bias of this source in various cases. Keep this in mind when using this source, though it certainly is not blacklisted.
Scjessey, do you have other reliable sources to offer on the subject of the 2012 Benghazi attack? Dimadick ( talk) 13:14, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
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Barack Obama's real name has been revealed to be Barry Soetoro. could you change his birth name to that? 184.169.125.170 ( talk) 01:48, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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Technically, Mr Obama is of DIRECT African descent, so why is he listed as African American? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.90.21.142 ( talk) 19:52, 24 February 2016
African American?The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. >the first African American to hold the office >His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, born in Wichita, Kansas, was of mostly English ancestry. I am sure that this has been brought up before, but I still do not understand it? Isn't it as correct to say that he is a white president as it is to say he is an African American. I think this needs to be worded better. Here are a few things I propose: >the first person of mixed race to hold the office >the first half African American to hold the office >the first person of both African American and White descent to hold the office > first person of African American descent (if you cannot change it to the other ones, this is what it should be changed to) These are all correct. The current statement, to my knowledge, is incorrect, but maybe I am wrong? Correct me if this is the case. Beejsterb ( talk) 03:03, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
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I recently added the {{controversial}} tag to the article, because he has been the subject of significant controversy. The tags are on the articles of several recent presidents (Nixon, Carter, Reagan, and both Bushes). It was surprising when the tag wasn't on Clinton's article, due to the Lewinsky scandal, or even the Obama article, because Barack Obama is nowhere near as controversial as Bill Clinton however has generated some controversy (the citizenship controversy). MB298 ( talk) 04:43, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
I can't find anything about Syria in the "Foreign Policy" section. That seems like a fairly glaring omission, doesn't it? I think I may want to add one. Display name 99 ( talk) 23:40, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
When I for example view the German Wikipedia page about Barack Obama it mentions the global surveillance disclosures or how under Obama the drone strikes in Pakistan and Afghanistan continued and even got enlarged.
Also that under Barack Obama despite what he expressed before his first election, that he admires whistleblower as "valuable source" for information about government misconduct and promised to increase transparency of government actions, that despite these statements during his presidency more whistleblower got sued under the anti-espionage law from 1917 (which includes the death-sentence as punishment) than under all US presidents before him.
Is it because admins or some admins are trying to frustrate any attempt on the article about Barack Obama to be more balanced, or what are the reasons that this article barely highlights anything more than in a superficial light?
Also seriously under "Cybersecurity and Internet policy" the main part: "On February 12, 2013, President Obama signed Executive Order 13636, "Improving Critical Infrastructure Cybersecurity". The Executive Order is designed to increase the level of core capabilities for our critical infrastructure to manage cyber risk. It does this by focusing on three key areas: (1) information sharing, (2) privacy, and (3) the adoption of cybersecurity practices." Is directly taken from the source of the whitehouse, "The executive order is designed to increase the level of core capabilities for OUR critical infrastructure to manage cyber risk. (...) really? I mean really? Does it get any more biased and obvious? Dasnewhome ( talk) 20:03, 20 February 2016 (UTC)