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How are the two external links relevant to this article? Simon12 02:35, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
I notice that a privacy hold has been put on the Bank Street College of Education wiki page because of content that has been repeatedly added and deleted. The articles (NY Post and Fox News) that are cited in the text in question refer to an the Bank Street School for Children, not the Bank Street College of Education. Is there a way to have this content fact checked before it is locked in place on the incorrect page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Estudiante70 ( talk • contribs) 22:25, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
https://www.bankstreet.edu/campus-beyond/news/2016/07/03/letter-to-the-community-about-our-racial-justice-a/444/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by SWF88 ( talk • contribs) 22:36, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
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As disclosed above on this talk page and on my user page, I have a COI and thus am using this talk page to discuss changes with neutral editors.
I believe this article will be improved with the addition of the Bank Street College of Education logo to the infobox. Bank Street College of Education logos can be found publicly at https://www.bankstreet.edu/logos/. Here's where it gets a little bit tricky: On that page, under the heading Main Divisions > Bank Street College of Education, you can see that there are two versions of the logo: a standard horizontal treatment and as a circle.
My inclination is that the horizontal logo should be the only version to appear in the infobox for Bank Street College of Education and that it should appear at the top of the infobox (in the "image" field rather than in the "logo" field). But I'd like neutral editors to make that determination, please.
The infoboxes for nearly all university Featured Articles display a seal image (typically round) at the top of the infobox and a logo at the bottom. For two examples, see Texas Tech University and Florida Atlantic University. That convention would seem to suggest that for consistency, the infobox for this Bank Street College of Education article should be updated to include the round version of its logo at the top and the horizontal version at the bottom. But I see these disadvantages to doing so:
I can only find one precedent for having just one logo appear in the infobox: the Featured Article Shimer College.
Can other editors weigh in on what's most appropriate here, please? Thank you.
-- DanielKlotz ( talk · contribs) 17:16, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Request: In the section Notable People > School for Children alumni, please remove this sentence:
Explanation: The statement does not cite any sources, and the What Not To Include section of the WikiProject Schools article guidelines states, "lists or detailed information about… parents of current or former pupils… is usually inappropriate."
Thank you. -- DanielKlotz ( talk · contribs) 19:22, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Per WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE. |
Proposed change: Update to a new version, this userspace draft: User:Danielklotz/Bank_Street_College_of_Education.
Reason why: The current structure of this article makes it difficult to improve or expand the article. So, I have worked to bring this article's structure in line with the article structure guidelines from WikiProject Universities and the article structure guidelines from WikiProject Schools. As an institution, Bank Street College of Education is unusual because it is half grad school and half K-8 school. So, when both wikiprojects recommend a section, the new draft has just one section (e.g., both guidelines suggest a "History" section). For the rest, I created two new sections with subsections -- one for the grad school and one for the school for children. Those might be thought of as "mini articles" within the article.
Because restructuring is the focus of this new draft, I followed three principles:
Here's the diff comparison: current article vs. new draft.
My intention is that this new structure, in line with wikiproject guidelines, will make it easier for editors to improve and expand this article. I welcome questions and feedback, and of course other editors are welcome to make changes to my draft before or after it is implemented. Thank you.
-- DanielKlotz ( talk · contribs) 14:26, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
Regards, Spintendo 16:17, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Notes
I have a disclosed conflict of interest. I am proposing changes and requesting input.
As an institution, Bank Street College of Education is unusual because it is half grad school and half K-8 school. That means that this article's structure should take its cues from the article structure guidelines from WikiProject Universities and the from WikiProject Schools. Currently, it does not follow either, and that creates a few problems:
I propose keeping three of the level-2 headings (History, References, External Links) but then dividing the rest of the existing article into three sections (Bank Street Graduate School of Education, Bank Street School for Children, Other Programs) and "shuffling" the existing content of the article within those sections. The sections on the grad school and the school for children may be thought of as "mini articles" within the article, so that their content can be guided over time by the guidelines from WP:UNI and WP:WPSCH, respectively.
The current structure of the middle part of the article is this (numbers included for clarity):
Current structure
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I propose changing the structure of the article to this, which is more in line with the above-linked article structure guidelines from WP:UNI and WP:WPSCH:
Proposed new structure
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The content from the existing article can be rearranged to fit this new structure without requiring rewriting aside from changing the headings. I request that the current headings 2 through 5 be replaced with the new headings I've just proposed, and content moved into that new set of headings as described below:
How content can be rearranged into the new structure
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Of course, once this restructuring or "shuffling around" is completed there is plenty more work to be done to improve this article, but I think this will serve as the "bones" for future expansion. For what it's worth, I believe two new sections should be added (after the "History" section): "Campus" and "Organization and administration," which could, like "History," cover the entire institution without confusing readers.
I invite input and discussion here.
-- DanielKlotz ( talk · contribs) 18:23, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
The reshuffle of items to more easily-perused sections is definately do-able - you're correct that the article would become more readable if the layout was more organic. Another issue affecting the article is the state of its references. In a count of them taken from the proposed draft, 19 of the 34 references — 55% — are from the organization itself, a disproportionate amount. Changes to the structure of the article carry it only so far — the content needs to come from more than a single source. To prevent the article from becoming an extension of the school's website, it needs additional WP:SECONDARY sources. I believe the addition of these should precede any restructuring effort, or at least occur concomitant to it. Regards, Spintendo 18:54, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Using the be bold principle- go for it. You have done a lot of research and even if we eventually decide otherwise, it will give a fresh window on the world which will be a valid experiment. As I see it there are three articles here- the foundation, and the schools project and the grad school project. We have some similar cross boundary structures in the UK, and as yet no universal solution. The sections you find in WP:SCH/AG seem to work for individual schools, and I assume WP:UNI are happy with their sections- So I would look to concatenating 3 infoboxes, one for the organisation, one for the grad school and Infobox school- with the repeat sections and the irrelevant ones ommitted. Perhaps you could work up your suggestion as a subpage of your user page, and when its ready I can transfer it over. ClemRutter ( talk) 19:37, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
The History section of this article about an educational institution in New York is, appropriately, flagged with {{Unreferenced section}}. As I have a COI, I would like to suggest sources for a neutral editor to review and, if approved, add to that section.
Thank you.
-- DanielKlotz ( talk · contribs) 14:28, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
This is an article about an educational institution in New York City which operates a Head Start program. I propose the addition of a sentence to the Head Start subsection of this article.
The independent, secondary reference work Early Childhood Education: An International Encyclopedia, speaking of the Bank Street School for Children, states (on page 517), "The laboratory school was an initial model for the 1965 Head Start Program." That fact helps establish why the Wikipedia article about Bank Street College of Education should include a Head Start section at all, showing why it is a noteworthy aspect of the institution and calibrating the due weight the topic should receive within the article.
Based on that, I suggest adding this sentence, with citation:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielklotz ( talk • contribs) 14:53, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
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How are the two external links relevant to this article? Simon12 02:35, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
I notice that a privacy hold has been put on the Bank Street College of Education wiki page because of content that has been repeatedly added and deleted. The articles (NY Post and Fox News) that are cited in the text in question refer to an the Bank Street School for Children, not the Bank Street College of Education. Is there a way to have this content fact checked before it is locked in place on the incorrect page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Estudiante70 ( talk • contribs) 22:25, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
https://www.bankstreet.edu/campus-beyond/news/2016/07/03/letter-to-the-community-about-our-racial-justice-a/444/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by SWF88 ( talk • contribs) 22:36, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
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As disclosed above on this talk page and on my user page, I have a COI and thus am using this talk page to discuss changes with neutral editors.
I believe this article will be improved with the addition of the Bank Street College of Education logo to the infobox. Bank Street College of Education logos can be found publicly at https://www.bankstreet.edu/logos/. Here's where it gets a little bit tricky: On that page, under the heading Main Divisions > Bank Street College of Education, you can see that there are two versions of the logo: a standard horizontal treatment and as a circle.
My inclination is that the horizontal logo should be the only version to appear in the infobox for Bank Street College of Education and that it should appear at the top of the infobox (in the "image" field rather than in the "logo" field). But I'd like neutral editors to make that determination, please.
The infoboxes for nearly all university Featured Articles display a seal image (typically round) at the top of the infobox and a logo at the bottom. For two examples, see Texas Tech University and Florida Atlantic University. That convention would seem to suggest that for consistency, the infobox for this Bank Street College of Education article should be updated to include the round version of its logo at the top and the horizontal version at the bottom. But I see these disadvantages to doing so:
I can only find one precedent for having just one logo appear in the infobox: the Featured Article Shimer College.
Can other editors weigh in on what's most appropriate here, please? Thank you.
-- DanielKlotz ( talk · contribs) 17:16, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Request: In the section Notable People > School for Children alumni, please remove this sentence:
Explanation: The statement does not cite any sources, and the What Not To Include section of the WikiProject Schools article guidelines states, "lists or detailed information about… parents of current or former pupils… is usually inappropriate."
Thank you. -- DanielKlotz ( talk · contribs) 19:22, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Per WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE. |
Proposed change: Update to a new version, this userspace draft: User:Danielklotz/Bank_Street_College_of_Education.
Reason why: The current structure of this article makes it difficult to improve or expand the article. So, I have worked to bring this article's structure in line with the article structure guidelines from WikiProject Universities and the article structure guidelines from WikiProject Schools. As an institution, Bank Street College of Education is unusual because it is half grad school and half K-8 school. So, when both wikiprojects recommend a section, the new draft has just one section (e.g., both guidelines suggest a "History" section). For the rest, I created two new sections with subsections -- one for the grad school and one for the school for children. Those might be thought of as "mini articles" within the article.
Because restructuring is the focus of this new draft, I followed three principles:
Here's the diff comparison: current article vs. new draft.
My intention is that this new structure, in line with wikiproject guidelines, will make it easier for editors to improve and expand this article. I welcome questions and feedback, and of course other editors are welcome to make changes to my draft before or after it is implemented. Thank you.
-- DanielKlotz ( talk · contribs) 14:26, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
Regards, Spintendo 16:17, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Notes
I have a disclosed conflict of interest. I am proposing changes and requesting input.
As an institution, Bank Street College of Education is unusual because it is half grad school and half K-8 school. That means that this article's structure should take its cues from the article structure guidelines from WikiProject Universities and the from WikiProject Schools. Currently, it does not follow either, and that creates a few problems:
I propose keeping three of the level-2 headings (History, References, External Links) but then dividing the rest of the existing article into three sections (Bank Street Graduate School of Education, Bank Street School for Children, Other Programs) and "shuffling" the existing content of the article within those sections. The sections on the grad school and the school for children may be thought of as "mini articles" within the article, so that their content can be guided over time by the guidelines from WP:UNI and WP:WPSCH, respectively.
The current structure of the middle part of the article is this (numbers included for clarity):
Current structure
|
---|
|
I propose changing the structure of the article to this, which is more in line with the above-linked article structure guidelines from WP:UNI and WP:WPSCH:
Proposed new structure
|
---|
|
The content from the existing article can be rearranged to fit this new structure without requiring rewriting aside from changing the headings. I request that the current headings 2 through 5 be replaced with the new headings I've just proposed, and content moved into that new set of headings as described below:
How content can be rearranged into the new structure
|
---|
|
Of course, once this restructuring or "shuffling around" is completed there is plenty more work to be done to improve this article, but I think this will serve as the "bones" for future expansion. For what it's worth, I believe two new sections should be added (after the "History" section): "Campus" and "Organization and administration," which could, like "History," cover the entire institution without confusing readers.
I invite input and discussion here.
-- DanielKlotz ( talk · contribs) 18:23, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
The reshuffle of items to more easily-perused sections is definately do-able - you're correct that the article would become more readable if the layout was more organic. Another issue affecting the article is the state of its references. In a count of them taken from the proposed draft, 19 of the 34 references — 55% — are from the organization itself, a disproportionate amount. Changes to the structure of the article carry it only so far — the content needs to come from more than a single source. To prevent the article from becoming an extension of the school's website, it needs additional WP:SECONDARY sources. I believe the addition of these should precede any restructuring effort, or at least occur concomitant to it. Regards, Spintendo 18:54, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Using the be bold principle- go for it. You have done a lot of research and even if we eventually decide otherwise, it will give a fresh window on the world which will be a valid experiment. As I see it there are three articles here- the foundation, and the schools project and the grad school project. We have some similar cross boundary structures in the UK, and as yet no universal solution. The sections you find in WP:SCH/AG seem to work for individual schools, and I assume WP:UNI are happy with their sections- So I would look to concatenating 3 infoboxes, one for the organisation, one for the grad school and Infobox school- with the repeat sections and the irrelevant ones ommitted. Perhaps you could work up your suggestion as a subpage of your user page, and when its ready I can transfer it over. ClemRutter ( talk) 19:37, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
The History section of this article about an educational institution in New York is, appropriately, flagged with {{Unreferenced section}}. As I have a COI, I would like to suggest sources for a neutral editor to review and, if approved, add to that section.
Thank you.
-- DanielKlotz ( talk · contribs) 14:28, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
This is an article about an educational institution in New York City which operates a Head Start program. I propose the addition of a sentence to the Head Start subsection of this article.
The independent, secondary reference work Early Childhood Education: An International Encyclopedia, speaking of the Bank Street School for Children, states (on page 517), "The laboratory school was an initial model for the 1965 Head Start Program." That fact helps establish why the Wikipedia article about Bank Street College of Education should include a Head Start section at all, showing why it is a noteworthy aspect of the institution and calibrating the due weight the topic should receive within the article.
Based on that, I suggest adding this sentence, with citation:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielklotz ( talk • contribs) 14:53, 9 February 2020 (UTC)