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I have checked the current pages about Baltic Sea, and there is little about the environmental status and about health issues related to Baltic Sea (especially swimming and fish eating). I know several people who are experts on this, and I suggest that we take an international collaborative effort to improve the current situation. The people I know could edit Wikipedias in English, Swedish, and Finnish. All the listed pages should be mentioned on the main article about the Baltic Sea on each language. ping: User:Giantflightlessbirds, sv:User:Josefina Algotsson -- Jtuom ( talk) 07:07, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Page | Suggested update | Rationale | ||
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English | Swedish | Finnish | ||
Baltic Sea Science Center | sv:Baltic Sea Science Center (does it not have a Swedish name?) | fi:Baltic Sea Science Center (missing page) | Write more of the scientific content of the Science Center | The center is an important source of scientific information about the Baltic Sea |
Water quality in the Baltic Sea | sv:Vattenkvalitet i Östersjön | fi:Itämeren vedenlaatu | All pages are missing. Write about both environmental quality (nutrients, algae growth, salt pulses and their impact on fisheries(?)) and health quality (quality for swimming, e.g. vibrio and other microbes). Related pages: Baltic Sea hypoxia, | Water quality is a practical issue for citizens and they should be able to learn about the basic science behind it. |
Pollutants in the Baltic Sea | sv:Miljögifter i Östersjön | fi:Itämeren ympäristömyrkyt | All pages are missing. There are heavy loads of dioxins, PCBs, methylmercury and other pollutants in the Baltic Sea. These are also found from the fish, and people get exposed when they consume Baltic fish, especially fatty fish such as Baltic herring. | These issues should be described, and also some time trends to show that the situation about dioxins and PCBs have remarkably improved (less change with methylmercury), and nutrients loads are probably slightly improving. |
I agree environment is important. — Preceding
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007Леони́д (
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contribs) 07:42, 23 January 2020 (UTC) strike sock puppet
(moved from my talk page -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 18:51, 17 May 2020 (UTC))
Just as I mentioned in the edit's comment, I happen to know cyrillic script and Greek. I had to learn it, for some reason, which isn't particularly useful except perhaps being able to read Russian script and being able to read road signs back when I was in Europe, in Greece couple of years ago :) Just as I said, what we have here is just a Russian word область ("oblast", sign-by-sign + so called "soft sign" at the end). To me, someone with little knowledge of EN simply transcribed RUS word because he/she didn't know word "region". If you Google "oblast" the only references point to Wikipedia and it spreaded in Wikipedia. If you check "Kaliningrad", an actual article's name is "Kaliningrad Region" - I changed the name of a link too. To the point though, I think there's no point to introduce a new word. Honestly speaking, when I first encountered this "oblast" thing I had no idea what it was. This is English Wikipedia, right? Programmer Physicist ( talk) 18:43, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Programmer Physicist ( talk) 19:04, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved, WP:SNOW, based on an apparent misunderstanding ( non-admin closure) – Thjarkur (talk) 13:21, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Baltic Sea → Mya Sea – It is both wrong and outdated to call it the Baltic sea when the proper name for it is the Mya Sea as can be seen in the Polish wikipedia for that is the name the sea obtains after it changed its form many years ago and thats how it will remain until a new change comes about, right now the article doesnt even mention this FACT and as such it should be corrected as soon as possible, here is the Polish article for it https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morze_Mya CaptainAugus ( talk) 08:54, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Indeed it is, its the stage the sea is right now, its the Mya Sea and should at least be referred to as such even if you insist on keeping the outdated name of Baltic sea (Which on an unrelated note sounds much worse than Mya Sea) since its really important information, the fact that an entry for it doesnt exist for the english wikipedia does nothing but show how lacking is this wikipedia in knowledge about that sea, also I find it funny that you complain about the uncontroversial request when you were the one to specifically link me to that section CaptainAugus ( talk) 11:33, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Ok but hear me out, it sounds way cooler doesnt it? CaptainAugus ( talk) 12:01, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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This article was edited to contain a total or partial translation of Ostsee from the German Wikipedia. Consult the history of the original page to see a list of its authors. (This notice applies to version 499959701 and subsequent versions of this page.) |
This page has archives. Sections older than 100 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 4 sections are present. |
I have checked the current pages about Baltic Sea, and there is little about the environmental status and about health issues related to Baltic Sea (especially swimming and fish eating). I know several people who are experts on this, and I suggest that we take an international collaborative effort to improve the current situation. The people I know could edit Wikipedias in English, Swedish, and Finnish. All the listed pages should be mentioned on the main article about the Baltic Sea on each language. ping: User:Giantflightlessbirds, sv:User:Josefina Algotsson -- Jtuom ( talk) 07:07, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Page | Suggested update | Rationale | ||
---|---|---|---|---|
English | Swedish | Finnish | ||
Baltic Sea Science Center | sv:Baltic Sea Science Center (does it not have a Swedish name?) | fi:Baltic Sea Science Center (missing page) | Write more of the scientific content of the Science Center | The center is an important source of scientific information about the Baltic Sea |
Water quality in the Baltic Sea | sv:Vattenkvalitet i Östersjön | fi:Itämeren vedenlaatu | All pages are missing. Write about both environmental quality (nutrients, algae growth, salt pulses and their impact on fisheries(?)) and health quality (quality for swimming, e.g. vibrio and other microbes). Related pages: Baltic Sea hypoxia, | Water quality is a practical issue for citizens and they should be able to learn about the basic science behind it. |
Pollutants in the Baltic Sea | sv:Miljögifter i Östersjön | fi:Itämeren ympäristömyrkyt | All pages are missing. There are heavy loads of dioxins, PCBs, methylmercury and other pollutants in the Baltic Sea. These are also found from the fish, and people get exposed when they consume Baltic fish, especially fatty fish such as Baltic herring. | These issues should be described, and also some time trends to show that the situation about dioxins and PCBs have remarkably improved (less change with methylmercury), and nutrients loads are probably slightly improving. |
I agree environment is important. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
007Леони́д (
talk •
contribs) 07:42, 23 January 2020 (UTC) strike sock puppet
(moved from my talk page -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 18:51, 17 May 2020 (UTC))
Just as I mentioned in the edit's comment, I happen to know cyrillic script and Greek. I had to learn it, for some reason, which isn't particularly useful except perhaps being able to read Russian script and being able to read road signs back when I was in Europe, in Greece couple of years ago :) Just as I said, what we have here is just a Russian word область ("oblast", sign-by-sign + so called "soft sign" at the end). To me, someone with little knowledge of EN simply transcribed RUS word because he/she didn't know word "region". If you Google "oblast" the only references point to Wikipedia and it spreaded in Wikipedia. If you check "Kaliningrad", an actual article's name is "Kaliningrad Region" - I changed the name of a link too. To the point though, I think there's no point to introduce a new word. Honestly speaking, when I first encountered this "oblast" thing I had no idea what it was. This is English Wikipedia, right? Programmer Physicist ( talk) 18:43, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Programmer Physicist ( talk) 19:04, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved, WP:SNOW, based on an apparent misunderstanding ( non-admin closure) – Thjarkur (talk) 13:21, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Baltic Sea → Mya Sea – It is both wrong and outdated to call it the Baltic sea when the proper name for it is the Mya Sea as can be seen in the Polish wikipedia for that is the name the sea obtains after it changed its form many years ago and thats how it will remain until a new change comes about, right now the article doesnt even mention this FACT and as such it should be corrected as soon as possible, here is the Polish article for it https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morze_Mya CaptainAugus ( talk) 08:54, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Indeed it is, its the stage the sea is right now, its the Mya Sea and should at least be referred to as such even if you insist on keeping the outdated name of Baltic sea (Which on an unrelated note sounds much worse than Mya Sea) since its really important information, the fact that an entry for it doesnt exist for the english wikipedia does nothing but show how lacking is this wikipedia in knowledge about that sea, also I find it funny that you complain about the uncontroversial request when you were the one to specifically link me to that section CaptainAugus ( talk) 11:33, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Ok but hear me out, it sounds way cooler doesnt it? CaptainAugus ( talk) 12:01, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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