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Per discussion above, I'm attempting to find WP:SECONDARY WP:Reliable sources to decide which companies are WP:Notable enough to be included. (Note that my info on which doll types are included in the BJD Orbyrarium book comes from this thread [1], particularly these posts: [2] [3], since I don't own the book myself, so if something is wrong, please correct me. ShojoBeat refers to the article in the June 2007 issue of ShojoBeat. [4])
Also in reliable sources but not in this article (yet?)
Based on Wikipedia:Policy I think only doll lines/companies should be included that have at least been mentioned in one reliable secondary source, ie, a book, magazine or newspaper that is published indepentently. Siawase ( talk) 19:07, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
I thought there was a "mechanics" section, but there isn't. Please place this where you like. I was actually thinking of a dual lede image because of the article name, but I'm not sure that would look right. You decide. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 19:41, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, what about these? Stolen Vehicle ( talk) 10:31, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
There is no mechanics section because the mechanics and joints of BJDs is not something reliable sources really get into from what I've seen. Despite the name, the joints are not really what BJDs are "about." Also, I do think the German bisque doll image already in the article shows the joints? Without sources to write up some relevant prose, it might be a bit WP:UNDUE to add images specifically focusing on the joints. Siawase ( talk) 12:52, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
There are a few different types of joints used in these "ball-jointed" dolls I believe.
The most basic of which consists of a joint like the one displayed in this diagram. -- Stolen Vehicle ( talk) 10:55, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
There should be a link to the Dollfie line since Volks also makes the Super Dollfie line. It is a relevant topic. 174.22.13.162 ( talk) 16:22, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
§ Bella Chen Xu ( talk) 22:26, 9 March 2014 (UTC)Wikipedia user id:Bella Chen Xu The link I would like to work on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball-jointed_doll Proposal: I am a BJD player for more than 3 years. However, I found out there is really little information about BJDs on the Wikipedia page, especially of the part of Asian BJDs. So firstly, I decide to expand short article about the lines and companies of BJDs. I may research and add more than 15 companies and write a brief introduction for each company. Secondly, I will update with new information such as Newbie Guide. I will list a few questions which newcomers may ask and post the answers. Thirdly, I will add several cute or pretty pictures about BJDs since the existing pictures on the Wikipedia page are horrible and may mislead the browsers. Sandbox: /info/en/?search=User:Bella_Chen_Xu/sandbox
I'm a bit concerned about this recent edit with the edit summary "...and added additional information about BJD sizes and types...". While plenty of new content was added, it seems that entire sections and many references were removed. Perhaps this edit ought to be done bit by bit. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 20:47, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
There are many US doll artists and companies that are notable. The author of the book you use as a source is highly prejudicial, or else you are. These companies are all Asian when there is a thriving contingent here in the USA who need to be sourced and given at least a mention. Frankly, a couple of the companies in your line up are not even in business anymore. I am and several others here in the USA. The main book and the main online forum are both prejudicial in favor of Asian companies. Why do they all gain mention and yet those of us right her in the USA are ignored? Most of us are award winning artists with international acclaim, excellent practices, clear expertise and not one of us has been sourced. Why? What about Bergemann Dolls, Tracy Porter Dolls, Extreme Dolls, JPop Dolls, Berdine Creedy Dolls, Tonner Doll Company? The list goes on and yet I've seen this article more than once for years I think and still we go unmentioned. All because the major forum online which is the backer of the book you sourced is prejudiced against US artists. There are also well known notable artists in France and Australia among other countries. But only those in Asia seem to matter. Truly sad and downright wrong! - Bo Bergemann User:Bo Bergemann 2:00, 14 November 2014
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I was searching for "kyutai kansetsu ningyo" but no wiki articles came out. then I re do the search under ball jointed doll. Kyutai Kansetsu Ningyo is the Japan version of the doll.
I do not have much information of any depth on this. May I suggest authors to do some research. or at least enable the search to link back to this page
thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.92.125.119 ( talk) 00:55, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
2600:6C55:7600:14C8:3CD4:B680:47F:874F ( talk) 07:33, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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Per discussion above, I'm attempting to find WP:SECONDARY WP:Reliable sources to decide which companies are WP:Notable enough to be included. (Note that my info on which doll types are included in the BJD Orbyrarium book comes from this thread [1], particularly these posts: [2] [3], since I don't own the book myself, so if something is wrong, please correct me. ShojoBeat refers to the article in the June 2007 issue of ShojoBeat. [4])
Also in reliable sources but not in this article (yet?)
Based on Wikipedia:Policy I think only doll lines/companies should be included that have at least been mentioned in one reliable secondary source, ie, a book, magazine or newspaper that is published indepentently. Siawase ( talk) 19:07, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
I thought there was a "mechanics" section, but there isn't. Please place this where you like. I was actually thinking of a dual lede image because of the article name, but I'm not sure that would look right. You decide. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 19:41, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi, what about these? Stolen Vehicle ( talk) 10:31, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
There is no mechanics section because the mechanics and joints of BJDs is not something reliable sources really get into from what I've seen. Despite the name, the joints are not really what BJDs are "about." Also, I do think the German bisque doll image already in the article shows the joints? Without sources to write up some relevant prose, it might be a bit WP:UNDUE to add images specifically focusing on the joints. Siawase ( talk) 12:52, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
There are a few different types of joints used in these "ball-jointed" dolls I believe.
The most basic of which consists of a joint like the one displayed in this diagram. -- Stolen Vehicle ( talk) 10:55, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
There should be a link to the Dollfie line since Volks also makes the Super Dollfie line. It is a relevant topic. 174.22.13.162 ( talk) 16:22, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
§ Bella Chen Xu ( talk) 22:26, 9 March 2014 (UTC)Wikipedia user id:Bella Chen Xu The link I would like to work on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball-jointed_doll Proposal: I am a BJD player for more than 3 years. However, I found out there is really little information about BJDs on the Wikipedia page, especially of the part of Asian BJDs. So firstly, I decide to expand short article about the lines and companies of BJDs. I may research and add more than 15 companies and write a brief introduction for each company. Secondly, I will update with new information such as Newbie Guide. I will list a few questions which newcomers may ask and post the answers. Thirdly, I will add several cute or pretty pictures about BJDs since the existing pictures on the Wikipedia page are horrible and may mislead the browsers. Sandbox: /info/en/?search=User:Bella_Chen_Xu/sandbox
I'm a bit concerned about this recent edit with the edit summary "...and added additional information about BJD sizes and types...". While plenty of new content was added, it seems that entire sections and many references were removed. Perhaps this edit ought to be done bit by bit. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 20:47, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
There are many US doll artists and companies that are notable. The author of the book you use as a source is highly prejudicial, or else you are. These companies are all Asian when there is a thriving contingent here in the USA who need to be sourced and given at least a mention. Frankly, a couple of the companies in your line up are not even in business anymore. I am and several others here in the USA. The main book and the main online forum are both prejudicial in favor of Asian companies. Why do they all gain mention and yet those of us right her in the USA are ignored? Most of us are award winning artists with international acclaim, excellent practices, clear expertise and not one of us has been sourced. Why? What about Bergemann Dolls, Tracy Porter Dolls, Extreme Dolls, JPop Dolls, Berdine Creedy Dolls, Tonner Doll Company? The list goes on and yet I've seen this article more than once for years I think and still we go unmentioned. All because the major forum online which is the backer of the book you sourced is prejudiced against US artists. There are also well known notable artists in France and Australia among other countries. But only those in Asia seem to matter. Truly sad and downright wrong! - Bo Bergemann User:Bo Bergemann 2:00, 14 November 2014
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I was searching for "kyutai kansetsu ningyo" but no wiki articles came out. then I re do the search under ball jointed doll. Kyutai Kansetsu Ningyo is the Japan version of the doll.
I do not have much information of any depth on this. May I suggest authors to do some research. or at least enable the search to link back to this page
thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.92.125.119 ( talk) 00:55, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
2600:6C55:7600:14C8:3CD4:B680:47F:874F ( talk) 07:33, 25 May 2020 (UTC)