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The article formerly stated "Miss USA winners wear a baldric with their title." This is untrue. They wear a regular sash. A baldric, per this article, has specific military connotations. A sash is not the same as a baldric.
167.80.244.204 14:03, 14 May 2007 (UTC)chevalier3
I added a note referring to the use of the term in morris dancing. For references See, for example: http://web.syr.edu/~rsholmes/morris/npg.html#glossary —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil the ( talk • contribs) 08:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm not an expert in military attire, but I believe there are several inaccuracies in this article. As I understand it a baldric is basically just a belt, that is worn over the shoulder and hangs down above the opposite hip. The version that goes around the waist and also over the shoulder is called a Sam Browne Belt and is not the same thing at all.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil the ( talk • contribs) 12 September 2007
Looks like this was fixed when I read it. There are no references to Sam Browne belts or anything similar except in the See also section: [3]. Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. User:Thin Smek) ( talk) 17:27, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
User:Phil_the Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. User:Thin Smek) ( talk) 17:29, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it's true that baldrics are used particularly for denoting rank. From my time in the Sealed Knot I know that decorative sashes were used for this, but baldrics are basically functional items, used for carrying a sword or a drum. I don't have any knowledge of other periods of history or modern usage though, so I could be mistaken. The confusion here may be again with the Sam Browne Belt. This is used primarily by officers because it is used to hold a pistol which would not be carried by regular soldiers, and has therefore become a symbol of rank.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil the ( talk • contribs) 12 September 2007
@ Phil the: Looks like this was fixed when I read it. There are no references to rank, Sam Browne belts or anything similar except in the See also section: [4]. Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. User:Thin Smek) ( talk) 17:33, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
I have rated the article start class based on the two citations, but the info in the trivia section will need to be cited in its entirety before the article can be bumped up to B-class. TomStar81 ( Talk) 03:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Please see the discussion of the term balteus in the Retiarius article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Retiarius. In brief, a balteus clearly is a sword belt, but specifically one worn diagonally. The linked article appears to be the primary source, but is a reenactor site rather than a scholarly one and cites no sources. If no credible sources can be found, I think the dictionary definition (linked in the Retiarius discussion, above) should prevail. 67.101.119.99 ( talk) 00:10, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Looks like this was fixed when I read it, thank you for any of this you did. [5]. Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. User:Thin Smek) ( talk) 17:36, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
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The article formerly stated "Miss USA winners wear a baldric with their title." This is untrue. They wear a regular sash. A baldric, per this article, has specific military connotations. A sash is not the same as a baldric.
167.80.244.204 14:03, 14 May 2007 (UTC)chevalier3
I added a note referring to the use of the term in morris dancing. For references See, for example: http://web.syr.edu/~rsholmes/morris/npg.html#glossary —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil the ( talk • contribs) 08:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm not an expert in military attire, but I believe there are several inaccuracies in this article. As I understand it a baldric is basically just a belt, that is worn over the shoulder and hangs down above the opposite hip. The version that goes around the waist and also over the shoulder is called a Sam Browne Belt and is not the same thing at all.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil the ( talk • contribs) 12 September 2007
Looks like this was fixed when I read it. There are no references to Sam Browne belts or anything similar except in the See also section: [3]. Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. User:Thin Smek) ( talk) 17:27, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
User:Phil_the Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. User:Thin Smek) ( talk) 17:29, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it's true that baldrics are used particularly for denoting rank. From my time in the Sealed Knot I know that decorative sashes were used for this, but baldrics are basically functional items, used for carrying a sword or a drum. I don't have any knowledge of other periods of history or modern usage though, so I could be mistaken. The confusion here may be again with the Sam Browne Belt. This is used primarily by officers because it is used to hold a pistol which would not be carried by regular soldiers, and has therefore become a symbol of rank.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil the ( talk • contribs) 12 September 2007
@ Phil the: Looks like this was fixed when I read it. There are no references to rank, Sam Browne belts or anything similar except in the See also section: [4]. Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. User:Thin Smek) ( talk) 17:33, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
I have rated the article start class based on the two citations, but the info in the trivia section will need to be cited in its entirety before the article can be bumped up to B-class. TomStar81 ( Talk) 03:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Please see the discussion of the term balteus in the Retiarius article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Retiarius. In brief, a balteus clearly is a sword belt, but specifically one worn diagonally. The linked article appears to be the primary source, but is a reenactor site rather than a scholarly one and cites no sources. If no credible sources can be found, I think the dictionary definition (linked in the Retiarius discussion, above) should prevail. 67.101.119.99 ( talk) 00:10, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Looks like this was fixed when I read it, thank you for any of this you did. [5]. Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. User:Thin Smek) ( talk) 17:36, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
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