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Bakewell Tart was apparently a common epithet for Sewell around the time of the murder. Rich Farmbrough. 13:04, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
I think that while residents of Bakewell prefer the term 'pudding', and they do have history on their side, the rest of the world knows it as 'tart' so that should be the term we use. Apologies to the residents, but they don't have the casting vote. -- VinceBowdren ( talk) 22:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Having formerly been a resident of Bakewell, I am rather irriated that the Pudding is being called a tart. It was originally a pudding and always will be. It is called a tart outside of Bakewell, and that is the term that people sometimes recognise it by. This is wrong though. The tart and pudding are to very different sorts of confectionary.I would like this changed please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.127.31.196 ( talk) 20:50, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Just thought I'd start the ball rolling by seeing if we can get some consensus on cleaning up this page.Most of it is fine, but the quality seems to drop off towards the end of the article. Any thoughts? -- A scanner lightly ( talk) 21:20, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
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The supposed reference to an Anglo-Saxon called "Badeca" or "Beadaca" etc. is nonsense of the sort we have come to expect from the "if-you-don't-know-just-make-something-up" school of English Place Name studies. Nothing supportive of this can be found whether in Bosworth-Toller or in the Prosopography of Anglo-Saxon England.
Conversely the practice of well-dressing is indicative and we find http://www.old-engli.sh/dictionary.php
Bæðdæg [] m (-es/-dagas) Epiphany (day of Christ’s baptism)
bed [] 1. n (-es/beodu) prayer, supplication; religious ordinance, service; 2. see bedd; 3. see bæd past 3rd sing of biddan
Can from: cunnan1 [] modal v/i 3rd pres cann past cúðe ptp gecunnen to be or become acquainted with, be thoroughly conversant with, know; know how to, have power to, be able to, can; express (thanks).....
So it is clear to me that the name implies that this was a "holy well" of some sort - most likely to be used for baptism - but (also?) possibly for simply praying at.
At http://www.localhistories.org/bakewell.html we find: "... the warm springs which rise at Bakewell where limestone meets shale.." and in the middle of Bakewell we find "Baths", "Bath Street" and "Bath Gardens", so forby any "holy" quality it looks as if the water was held to be curative.
So as you can see I don't have a full and correct answer but I am sure that this is the right direction and the suggestion of a personal name is tosh.
Freuchie ( talk) 19:34, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
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Bakewell Tart was apparently a common epithet for Sewell around the time of the murder. Rich Farmbrough. 13:04, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
I think that while residents of Bakewell prefer the term 'pudding', and they do have history on their side, the rest of the world knows it as 'tart' so that should be the term we use. Apologies to the residents, but they don't have the casting vote. -- VinceBowdren ( talk) 22:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Having formerly been a resident of Bakewell, I am rather irriated that the Pudding is being called a tart. It was originally a pudding and always will be. It is called a tart outside of Bakewell, and that is the term that people sometimes recognise it by. This is wrong though. The tart and pudding are to very different sorts of confectionary.I would like this changed please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.127.31.196 ( talk) 20:50, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Just thought I'd start the ball rolling by seeing if we can get some consensus on cleaning up this page.Most of it is fine, but the quality seems to drop off towards the end of the article. Any thoughts? -- A scanner lightly ( talk) 21:20, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
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The supposed reference to an Anglo-Saxon called "Badeca" or "Beadaca" etc. is nonsense of the sort we have come to expect from the "if-you-don't-know-just-make-something-up" school of English Place Name studies. Nothing supportive of this can be found whether in Bosworth-Toller or in the Prosopography of Anglo-Saxon England.
Conversely the practice of well-dressing is indicative and we find http://www.old-engli.sh/dictionary.php
Bæðdæg [] m (-es/-dagas) Epiphany (day of Christ’s baptism)
bed [] 1. n (-es/beodu) prayer, supplication; religious ordinance, service; 2. see bedd; 3. see bæd past 3rd sing of biddan
Can from: cunnan1 [] modal v/i 3rd pres cann past cúðe ptp gecunnen to be or become acquainted with, be thoroughly conversant with, know; know how to, have power to, be able to, can; express (thanks).....
So it is clear to me that the name implies that this was a "holy well" of some sort - most likely to be used for baptism - but (also?) possibly for simply praying at.
At http://www.localhistories.org/bakewell.html we find: "... the warm springs which rise at Bakewell where limestone meets shale.." and in the middle of Bakewell we find "Baths", "Bath Street" and "Bath Gardens", so forby any "holy" quality it looks as if the water was held to be curative.
So as you can see I don't have a full and correct answer but I am sure that this is the right direction and the suggestion of a personal name is tosh.
Freuchie ( talk) 19:34, 10 December 2020 (UTC)