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"although some claim that the educational philosophy differs slightly from that of the original Bais Yaakov schools." This is a very vague statement. Who claims this, and how do "they" claim it differs? Jayjg (talk) 04:35, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Is there any editor out there who has any information to start an article on Sarah Schenirer? I have been looking for any information on her life and career, and have not had much luck. Anyone who is able to, please initiate an article on Wiki. Thank you. 66.108.107.224 17:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Redaktor, what exactly is your problem with my edit? Half of the article is OR. If you delete my addition again, then I feel compelled to delete all other OR also. Provide references for anything you want to stay in this article. -- Rabbeinu 13:02, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
I have renamed the article to "Beis Yaakov" with an "e" instead of an "a", because
Note that the two interwiki's using Latin alphabet also write an "e". Debresser ( talk) 02:00, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Looking over this arbitrary change by Debresser, from Bais Yaakov (with an "a" in "Bais") to Beis Yaakov (with an "e" in "Beis") it is appalling that he can over-ride the WP:CONSENSUS that is evident in this article's edit history that shows that since this article's creation in 13 December 2004 [1], (until it was changed by Debresser ACTING ALONE without any attempt at drawing in discussion, even at WP:TALKJUDAISM) in 2009, that lasting for 5 (yes, FIVE) years, with over 40 (yes FORTY) editors (excluding anonymous edits) having contributed over the years, not one saw fit to make a change to the name alone and thereby created an enormous WP:CONSENSUS for the original spelling. The article's name is not just guided by the invocation of an obscure "rule" from Hebrew (that is not the point here) but it defies common usage where in the largest English-language Orthodox community that is in the USA, not a single school uses the "Beis Yaakov" spelling and almost all use "Bais Yaakov" (with an "a"). In the UK some schools do use the "Beis Yaakov" name but it was always secondary in this article. Therefore, the change should never have been made. The point may be relatively minor, but when a serious topic is concerned that concerns Orthodox Judaism, one editor acting as a " loan ranger" cannot and must not and should not act as the chief judge, jury and lord high executioner. Otherwise what's to stop him from deciding tomorrow that the "correct" version should be Beis Yaacov (as some spell it with a "c") or Bet Ya'akov or Beit Yaakov (in modern Hebrew), or Beth Jacob (the truly correct English name) etc, just to absurdly and dramatically "prove" that he can change names with all sorts of "discoveries" and "rationales" all of his own based on obscure "grammatical" rules. This pattern of behavior defies the simple logic and need of if it ain't broke, don't fix it. See a similar situation now being discussed at Talk:Musar movement#Musar or Mussar. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 07:28, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Debresser: Point by point:
IZAK: Point by point:
etc. Thanks, Debresser ( talk) 17:29, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Debresser: You only answered 3 points, what about the other 12? But to answer your points: (1) You may be "educated" but judging from your edits, you know very little about the world's largest English-speaking Torah communities, and they are in North America, where you can be assured, absolutely all rabbis, rebbetzins, publications and institutions spell it as "Bais Yaakov." I have in front of me this week's weekend English Yated Ne'eman (United States) and Hamodia published in New York, where the world's hugest English speaking communities live and write, and there are about twenty ads from different Bais Yaakovs, spelled only as "Bais Yaakov ___ ___" advertising upcoming entrance exams. (2) Just see how hypocritical you are, you start off by accusing me of not being an educated Jew like you, and of "arguing" -- and I am not "arguing" that is something you do, I try to DISCUSS -- and then you urge me to abide by the very rules you violate all the time (certainly with me, and I can and have proven it over and over again), but this is very typical of you. (3) Yiddish speakers in America, when speaking and writing English, use the word "Bais Yaakov" only. IZAK ( talk) 05:21, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Name should be Bais Yaakov :
Name should be Beis Yaakov :
it's absolute rdiculous to call to this article 'bais yaakov'. as an israeli and language-speaking of Hebrow, it is simple mistake. in the origin verse on the bible it is spelled 'beit yaakov', and in Ashkenazi Hebrew it is Beis. you can see in the Hebrow version Of this article.
אם יש פה מישהו שדובר עברית:
שם הערך כפי שהוא עכשיו הוא פשוט חוסר הבנה או ידיעה של כללי הדקדוק העבריים.
נכון ששם העצם המקורי הוא 'בית' שמאוית כ-bait
אבל בסמיכות לשם עצם אחר זה הופך להיות beit.
זה מופיע ככה בתנ"ך ובכל מקום אחר אפשרי.
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"although some claim that the educational philosophy differs slightly from that of the original Bais Yaakov schools." This is a very vague statement. Who claims this, and how do "they" claim it differs? Jayjg (talk) 04:35, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Is there any editor out there who has any information to start an article on Sarah Schenirer? I have been looking for any information on her life and career, and have not had much luck. Anyone who is able to, please initiate an article on Wiki. Thank you. 66.108.107.224 17:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Redaktor, what exactly is your problem with my edit? Half of the article is OR. If you delete my addition again, then I feel compelled to delete all other OR also. Provide references for anything you want to stay in this article. -- Rabbeinu 13:02, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
I have renamed the article to "Beis Yaakov" with an "e" instead of an "a", because
Note that the two interwiki's using Latin alphabet also write an "e". Debresser ( talk) 02:00, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Looking over this arbitrary change by Debresser, from Bais Yaakov (with an "a" in "Bais") to Beis Yaakov (with an "e" in "Beis") it is appalling that he can over-ride the WP:CONSENSUS that is evident in this article's edit history that shows that since this article's creation in 13 December 2004 [1], (until it was changed by Debresser ACTING ALONE without any attempt at drawing in discussion, even at WP:TALKJUDAISM) in 2009, that lasting for 5 (yes, FIVE) years, with over 40 (yes FORTY) editors (excluding anonymous edits) having contributed over the years, not one saw fit to make a change to the name alone and thereby created an enormous WP:CONSENSUS for the original spelling. The article's name is not just guided by the invocation of an obscure "rule" from Hebrew (that is not the point here) but it defies common usage where in the largest English-language Orthodox community that is in the USA, not a single school uses the "Beis Yaakov" spelling and almost all use "Bais Yaakov" (with an "a"). In the UK some schools do use the "Beis Yaakov" name but it was always secondary in this article. Therefore, the change should never have been made. The point may be relatively minor, but when a serious topic is concerned that concerns Orthodox Judaism, one editor acting as a " loan ranger" cannot and must not and should not act as the chief judge, jury and lord high executioner. Otherwise what's to stop him from deciding tomorrow that the "correct" version should be Beis Yaacov (as some spell it with a "c") or Bet Ya'akov or Beit Yaakov (in modern Hebrew), or Beth Jacob (the truly correct English name) etc, just to absurdly and dramatically "prove" that he can change names with all sorts of "discoveries" and "rationales" all of his own based on obscure "grammatical" rules. This pattern of behavior defies the simple logic and need of if it ain't broke, don't fix it. See a similar situation now being discussed at Talk:Musar movement#Musar or Mussar. Thank you, IZAK ( talk) 07:28, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Debresser: Point by point:
IZAK: Point by point:
etc. Thanks, Debresser ( talk) 17:29, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Debresser: You only answered 3 points, what about the other 12? But to answer your points: (1) You may be "educated" but judging from your edits, you know very little about the world's largest English-speaking Torah communities, and they are in North America, where you can be assured, absolutely all rabbis, rebbetzins, publications and institutions spell it as "Bais Yaakov." I have in front of me this week's weekend English Yated Ne'eman (United States) and Hamodia published in New York, where the world's hugest English speaking communities live and write, and there are about twenty ads from different Bais Yaakovs, spelled only as "Bais Yaakov ___ ___" advertising upcoming entrance exams. (2) Just see how hypocritical you are, you start off by accusing me of not being an educated Jew like you, and of "arguing" -- and I am not "arguing" that is something you do, I try to DISCUSS -- and then you urge me to abide by the very rules you violate all the time (certainly with me, and I can and have proven it over and over again), but this is very typical of you. (3) Yiddish speakers in America, when speaking and writing English, use the word "Bais Yaakov" only. IZAK ( talk) 05:21, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Name should be Bais Yaakov :
Name should be Beis Yaakov :
it's absolute rdiculous to call to this article 'bais yaakov'. as an israeli and language-speaking of Hebrow, it is simple mistake. in the origin verse on the bible it is spelled 'beit yaakov', and in Ashkenazi Hebrew it is Beis. you can see in the Hebrow version Of this article.
אם יש פה מישהו שדובר עברית:
שם הערך כפי שהוא עכשיו הוא פשוט חוסר הבנה או ידיעה של כללי הדקדוק העבריים.
נכון ששם העצם המקורי הוא 'בית' שמאוית כ-bait
אבל בסמיכות לשם עצם אחר זה הופך להיות beit.
זה מופיע ככה בתנ"ך ובכל מקום אחר אפשרי.
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