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As an avid Canadian Chart fanatic, Madonna's "Bad Girl" Hit number 5 not number 20 as previously stated. Go to mad-eyes.net or just google it! I changed it on here and on the Discography page!
Jdcrackers (
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00:56, 27 April 2010 (UTC)reply
@
Jdcrackers: too late of a response but worth trying, what is your source for the #5 position? The source from RPM shows the peak as number 20. —
IB[
Poke ]04:32, 29 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Ok that's been almost a decade. I guess 20 it is!
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Done
Background and recording
Remove overly obvious wikilink on New York City
""Thief of Hearts" and" → ""Thief of Hearts", and"
Should the "book full of lyrics and melody ideas" be mentioned here like it is in this section for "
Deeper and Deeper"?
"along with album track" → "along with fellow album track"
The source uses the term "highly emotional" for the song instead of what you have quoted
Care to elaborate?
The allegedly quoted part "really deep personal attachment" is not mentioned by the source, while the above one is. --
K. Peake08:27, 8 June 2022 (UTC)reply
I have added the "really deep personal..." source
"expose herself emotionally"." → "expose herself emotionally."" per
MOS:QUOTE on full sentences
Done
Composition
Retitle to Composition and lyrics
"personnel working on the song" → "Personnel working on the song" to avoid a run-on sentence
After the personnel, the prose is quite poorly ordered; you should follow with musical info, then vocals and finally lyrics
The lyrics mentioned in the article for the refrain do not match what the source says on either occasion, also mention what they mean after writing them for the audio sample text and wikilink
refrain
Keep the melancholic, "somber, guilt-ridden" ballad parts in the first sentence, adding before them "Musically, "Bad Girl" is a" with the genres sourced and moving the subject matter to the proposed lyrics area of this section
"the Erotica album: "the pain" → "Erotica of "the pain" and all of the parts from here onwards apart from the vocal range and Larry Flick commentary belong in lyrics
"through self-destructive behaviors such as" → "through behaviors such as" per the source
"and most European countries," → "and numerous European countries," per only three being sourced; only keep as it is if you can find a source stating the song was released in most European countries
"on March 11 with "
Fever" as its" → "on March 11, with "
Fever" as the" with the pipe per MOS:LINK2SECT
"Upon release, it was generally" → "Upon release, "Bad Girl" was generally"
"and peaked at number ten" → "and peaked at number 10" per
MOS:NUM
"in the United Kingdom as of 2008." → "in the UK as of 2008."
Chart positions should be in geographical order like you did the first para while still mentioning correlation of positions if it is relevant, so write the European ones first in the second para followed by the other continents in either order
"eventually peaking at 32 and remaining" → "eventually peaking at number 32 and lasting for"
"It fared better in" → "The song fared better in" if this sentence is kept in the new order
Why are the Ireland and Switzerland positions not mentioned here?
Done
Music video
Background and synopsis
It is not sourced anywhere in prose that the video was Madonna's last collab with the director, though mention it in the first sentence per that source. Also, the Manhattan shooting location is not backed up.
"is sprayed and the angel" → "is sprayed, and the angel"
"murdered Louise with" → "murdered Louise Oriole with"
"shows Louise and" → "shows Louise Oriole and"
I decided not to add the Oriole surname everytime the Louise character is mentioned, as it's stablished on the 1st paragraph and looks redundant. Other than that Done --
Christian (
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15:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)reply
"named it Madonna's" → "named the visual Madonna's"
"ranked it her" → "ranked the video her"
"is one of her best"." → "is one of her best."" per MOS:QUOTE on full sentences
"and the directing: "[Fincher directs] her" → "and the directing, writing that "[Fincher directs] her"
"Adam White said it was Fincher's "most important venture": A" → "White said it was Fincher's "most important venture", a" but why is this separate from the rest of his commentary?
Adam White's article touches many different points of the video; answering your first point: I decided to put first the critical reception towards the clip (rankings of Madonna's videos/critical reviews); the second paragraph covers all academic and analytical commentary.
Why is he mentioned not only on two occasions in the first para then, but you also use his full name twice there? Either way, make sure the level of direct quoting is cut down. --
K. Peake08:27, 8 June 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: I'm almost done with this; should fix the remaining points later on, or tomorrow. I have some questions regarding your points in the composition section tho.--
Christian (
talk)
18:39, 8 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Chrishm21 The lyrics on the audio sample are still not mentioned by the used source, also the quoting level from White has been cut down a decent amount but why is he still mentioned twice in one para? --
K. Peake07:06, 9 June 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: JD Considine source covers the lyrics mentioned on the sample; also, an author can't be mentioned twice in one same paragraph? Or what do youmean?--
Christian (
talk)
16:56, 9 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Chrishm21 The lyrics mentioned on the text are different from what the source says and I thought one para was for reception, the other for analysis? --
K. Peake07:36, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: Hello! I've used the JD Considine Baltimore Sun for both; it talks about the song's themes ("uses drunken debauchery as a mask for her pain"), and also gives a review by referring to it as "sobering as it is sad". It mentions the lyric "Bad girl/drunk by six/ kissing some kind stranger's lips"--
Christian (
talk)
11:55, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Chrishm21 Loading the archive for the Baltimore Sun, the themes and sobering part are sourced, but the lyrics say "Bad girl, drunk by 6/Kissing someone else's lips"; are the different ones written on the original since I live in the UK so cannot access that? --
K. Peake19:57, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: Hello! Oh are you talking about the audio file? It *does* mention the lyrics from the source; it also mentions other lyrics, but the ones from the Baltimore Sun are mentioned. Is this what you mean?--
Christian (
talk)
12:41, 11 June 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Chrishm21: No, I have said multiple time ARCHIVE as in for the Baltimore Sun URL; why does this list different lyrics from what are mentioned in prose? If you fail to address again, I may very well have to edit this myself. --
K. Peake13:45, 11 June 2022 (UTC)reply
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As an avid Canadian Chart fanatic, Madonna's "Bad Girl" Hit number 5 not number 20 as previously stated. Go to mad-eyes.net or just google it! I changed it on here and on the Discography page!
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00:56, 27 April 2010 (UTC)reply
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Jdcrackers: too late of a response but worth trying, what is your source for the #5 position? The source from RPM shows the peak as number 20. —
IB[
Poke ]04:32, 29 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Ok that's been almost a decade. I guess 20 it is!
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"most "cinematic" and noting tropes and" → "most "cinematic", as well as noting tropes and" but the "cinematic" quote is only used by one critic from what is cited
Remove late-night live television show introduction to Saturday Night Live
Done
Background and recording
Remove overly obvious wikilink on New York City
""Thief of Hearts" and" → ""Thief of Hearts", and"
Should the "book full of lyrics and melody ideas" be mentioned here like it is in this section for "
Deeper and Deeper"?
"along with album track" → "along with fellow album track"
The source uses the term "highly emotional" for the song instead of what you have quoted
Care to elaborate?
The allegedly quoted part "really deep personal attachment" is not mentioned by the source, while the above one is. --
K. Peake08:27, 8 June 2022 (UTC)reply
I have added the "really deep personal..." source
"expose herself emotionally"." → "expose herself emotionally."" per
MOS:QUOTE on full sentences
Done
Composition
Retitle to Composition and lyrics
"personnel working on the song" → "Personnel working on the song" to avoid a run-on sentence
After the personnel, the prose is quite poorly ordered; you should follow with musical info, then vocals and finally lyrics
The lyrics mentioned in the article for the refrain do not match what the source says on either occasion, also mention what they mean after writing them for the audio sample text and wikilink
refrain
Keep the melancholic, "somber, guilt-ridden" ballad parts in the first sentence, adding before them "Musically, "Bad Girl" is a" with the genres sourced and moving the subject matter to the proposed lyrics area of this section
"the Erotica album: "the pain" → "Erotica of "the pain" and all of the parts from here onwards apart from the vocal range and Larry Flick commentary belong in lyrics
"through self-destructive behaviors such as" → "through behaviors such as" per the source
"and most European countries," → "and numerous European countries," per only three being sourced; only keep as it is if you can find a source stating the song was released in most European countries
"on March 11 with "
Fever" as its" → "on March 11, with "
Fever" as the" with the pipe per MOS:LINK2SECT
"Upon release, it was generally" → "Upon release, "Bad Girl" was generally"
"and peaked at number ten" → "and peaked at number 10" per
MOS:NUM
"in the United Kingdom as of 2008." → "in the UK as of 2008."
Chart positions should be in geographical order like you did the first para while still mentioning correlation of positions if it is relevant, so write the European ones first in the second para followed by the other continents in either order
"eventually peaking at 32 and remaining" → "eventually peaking at number 32 and lasting for"
"It fared better in" → "The song fared better in" if this sentence is kept in the new order
Why are the Ireland and Switzerland positions not mentioned here?
Done
Music video
Background and synopsis
It is not sourced anywhere in prose that the video was Madonna's last collab with the director, though mention it in the first sentence per that source. Also, the Manhattan shooting location is not backed up.
"is sprayed and the angel" → "is sprayed, and the angel"
"murdered Louise with" → "murdered Louise Oriole with"
"shows Louise and" → "shows Louise Oriole and"
I decided not to add the Oriole surname everytime the Louise character is mentioned, as it's stablished on the 1st paragraph and looks redundant. Other than that Done --
Christian (
talk)
15:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)reply
"named it Madonna's" → "named the visual Madonna's"
"ranked it her" → "ranked the video her"
"is one of her best"." → "is one of her best."" per MOS:QUOTE on full sentences
"and the directing: "[Fincher directs] her" → "and the directing, writing that "[Fincher directs] her"
"Adam White said it was Fincher's "most important venture": A" → "White said it was Fincher's "most important venture", a" but why is this separate from the rest of his commentary?
Adam White's article touches many different points of the video; answering your first point: I decided to put first the critical reception towards the clip (rankings of Madonna's videos/critical reviews); the second paragraph covers all academic and analytical commentary.
Why is he mentioned not only on two occasions in the first para then, but you also use his full name twice there? Either way, make sure the level of direct quoting is cut down. --
K. Peake08:27, 8 June 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: I'm almost done with this; should fix the remaining points later on, or tomorrow. I have some questions regarding your points in the composition section tho.--
Christian (
talk)
18:39, 8 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Chrishm21 The lyrics on the audio sample are still not mentioned by the used source, also the quoting level from White has been cut down a decent amount but why is he still mentioned twice in one para? --
K. Peake07:06, 9 June 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: JD Considine source covers the lyrics mentioned on the sample; also, an author can't be mentioned twice in one same paragraph? Or what do youmean?--
Christian (
talk)
16:56, 9 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Chrishm21 The lyrics mentioned on the text are different from what the source says and I thought one para was for reception, the other for analysis? --
K. Peake07:36, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: Hello! I've used the JD Considine Baltimore Sun for both; it talks about the song's themes ("uses drunken debauchery as a mask for her pain"), and also gives a review by referring to it as "sobering as it is sad". It mentions the lyric "Bad girl/drunk by six/ kissing some kind stranger's lips"--
Christian (
talk)
11:55, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Chrishm21 Loading the archive for the Baltimore Sun, the themes and sobering part are sourced, but the lyrics say "Bad girl, drunk by 6/Kissing someone else's lips"; are the different ones written on the original since I live in the UK so cannot access that? --
K. Peake19:57, 10 June 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: Hello! Oh are you talking about the audio file? It *does* mention the lyrics from the source; it also mentions other lyrics, but the ones from the Baltimore Sun are mentioned. Is this what you mean?--
Christian (
talk)
12:41, 11 June 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Chrishm21: No, I have said multiple time ARCHIVE as in for the Baltimore Sun URL; why does this list different lyrics from what are mentioned in prose? If you fail to address again, I may very well have to edit this myself. --
K. Peake13:45, 11 June 2022 (UTC)reply