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March 31, 2008 Peer reviewReviewed
July 19, 2008 Good article nomineeListed
Current status: Good article

Attendance

There is no way there was only 13,000 at Backlash. The place was sold out, and Rexalls capacity is in the 16,000 region. I'm going to find a source and change it. This looks like more attempts to make Canada look inferior to the U.S. again. Killswitch Engage ( talk) 18:15, 27 March 2008 (UTC) reply

If you can find one, go right ahead. But, until then, it will remain 13,000. –Cheers, L A X 19:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC) reply
What I'm going to do is see if I can't track down a video of the event, where you hear J.R. clearly say, "over 18,000 on hand for Backlash. Thats an exaggeration, because Rexall only holds like 16,000 people. Can I use a wiki page as a reference for a capacity? I know that wrestling is set up similar to hockey, and the arena holds 16,000+ for ice hockey. Mind giving me a hand on that? Thanks. Killswitch Engage ( talk · contribs)
You may not use another Wikipedia page as a source, and you may only use a video if they are not illegally hosting WWE content (meaning YouTube is out of the question). –Cheers, L A X 19:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC) reply
So I could rip the footage from a DVD and send it to someone as proof? Killswitch Engage ( talk) 19:50, 27 March 2008 (UTC) reply
Or just cite the DVD using Template:Cite DVD-notes. –Cheers, L A X 19:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC) reply
Where do I put it on the page? Killswitch Engage ( talk) 05:16, 28 March 2008 (UTC) reply
In the Infobox, the only place where the attendance is mentioned. –Cheers, L A X 11:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC) reply
What the fuck? I put it in the infobox just like you said? Whats your problem now? Killswitch Engage ( talk) 04:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC) reply
It was messed up. [1] –Cheers, L A X 08:48, 29 March 2008 (UTC) reply
Alright then, you show me how to put it in. Killswitch Engage ( talk) 06:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC) reply

pre-GA review

Throughout the entire article make sure that the dates are Wiki-linked. It's mostly a problem in the aftermath.

Lead, Background, Pictures

  1. I don't see anything wrong with these sections.

Event

  1. Try to expand on the matches. They all seem to be a little bit too short.
  2. Combine the first, second, and third paragraphs.
    – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  3. And the fourth and fifth.
    – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  4. And the sixth and seventh.
    – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  5. Benjamie - self explanatory
    – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  6. The match saw Garrison Cade interfere - try to stay away from phrases such as "The match saw"
    Why? – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
    Because a match can't see something. You can say, during the duration of the match iMat thew 20 08 01:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  7. The match came about - huh?
    – L A X 15:52, 17 May 2008 (UTC) reply
  8. Can we find a better word that "catapulted"
    Zenlax T C S 20:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  9. Wiki-link "enziguiri kick"
    Zenlax T C S 20:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  10. The match that followed was for the WWE Women's Championship match I guess you can remove the work "match"
    Zenlax T C S 20:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  11. The match was controlled by both Victoria and Lita. how is the match controlled by both competitors?
    Zenlax T C S 20:15, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  12. Again, stay away from the phrase "One spot in the match saw"
    Why? – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  13. I believe "lay" should be "lye"
    Zenlax T C S 20:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  14. One spot in the match saw again in the last paragraph (It comes up twice), then Another included,
    Again, why? – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply

Aftermath

  1. Wiki-link or explain "Double champion"
    I think the term "Double champion" is explained, as it informs that Benoit retained the title and won the World Tag team title. Zenlax T C S 19:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
    I didn't know what you meant until now. It isn't really explained. iMat thew 20 08 20:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  2. Prior to Raw that night, Bischoff informed Triple H that the following week on Raw, he would have a title match against Benoit what was the result of this match?
    I don't quite follow. Zenlax T C S 19:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
    You're telling me that Triple H would have a title match against Benoit the following week. What happened in that match, and who won? iMat thew 20 08 20:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
    I saw that match, Chris Benoit won. DoorLearn ( talk) 15:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC) reply
    Fixed. – L A X 15:33, 25 June 2008 (UTC) reply
  3. "not a participant in the battle" changed "battle" to "match"
    Zenlax T C S 19:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  4. to know of he was scheduled i assume that "of" should be "if"
    Zenlax T C S 20:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  5. Bischoff assured Michaels, but was jumped from behind by Triple H, after Michaels attacked Triple H outside the arena's parking lot it's not clear who Triple H jumped...and use another word instead of "jumped"
    Zenlax T C S 20:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  6. RAW to Raw.... right?
    – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  7. Superstars does not need to have a capital "S"
    Zenlax T C S 19:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  8. 'question', if those are supposed to be quotation marks, then use "" not
  9. I'm confused. You mention that Kane received a title match in both paragraphs. I believe it should only be mentioned in the first paragraph. Remove it from the paragraph about Hardy/Lita. Also expand the Hardy/Lita section. How did the feud result?
  10. "problem solver" the quotation marks should not be wiki-linked.
    Please see Trish Stratus' article as the example is written there. Zenlax T C S 20:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  11. Wiki-link "Steel Cage match"
    Zenlax T C S 20:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  12. 'During a tag team match between Jericho and Shelton Benjamin, the tag match between Jericho and Shelton, does not make sense. The tag match between Jericho and Shelton vs. Batista and Ortan.
    Zenlax T C S 20:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  13. Again, stay away from this phrase "in which it saw him"
    Zenlax T C S 20:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply

Results

  1. Numbers in parentheses indicate the length of the match. -- should be small text
  2. The match notes all need to be sourced.

Let me know when you are done. iMat thew 20 08 01:30, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply

Additional

I believe 411mania was proven not to be a reliable source, so I'd say all of those references need to be replaced. And change the publishers from "WWE" to " World Wrestling Entertainment" -- iMatthew T. C. 11:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC) reply

It's reliable enough for GAs, but not FAs. – L A X 03:00, 12 July 2008 (UTC) reply

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Backlash (2004)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

GA Review by S R X
Lead
  • Great wording, though I suggest adding a paragraph about the aftermath/background.
Background
Event
  • Before the event went live on pay-per-view, Val Venis defeated Matt Hardy in a match taped for Sunday Night HEAT. - per WP:PW/MOS, HEAT should follow the same rule as iMPACT, and be in regular font format.
  • The third match of the event was Chris Jericho versus Christian and Trish Stratus in a Handicap match, in which Jericho defeated both Christian and Stratus. - Why is the result shown before hand, while other's aren't in that format.
  • The match ended when Victoria pinned Lita after an Inside Cradle after Lita got a near fall on Victoria. - the last part "after Lita got a near..." is redundant and not relevant in that sentence.
  • Cactus continued, as he poured gasoline on the bat and tried to light it on fire. - continued what?
  • Assaults by both men took effect, until Orton managed to pin Cactus after an RKO on a barbed wire baseball bat - the first part of the sentence doesn't flow with the rest of it, consider revising.
  • Edge, however, reversed assaults by Kane, who he then attempted to spear. - attempted "to spear"? remove "to" and reword it into saying that he performed a spear.
Aftermath
  • Written well, I saw no flaws other than jargon, but not to worry for now.

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    Per comments above.
    B. MoS compliance:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    Written very good; though a couple of prose issues, until they are addressed, the article is  On hold for the time being, good luck in improving the article.-- S R X 03:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Ok great work. Pass-- S R X 15:19, 19 July 2008 (UTC) reply

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Intercontinental Championship Match

Match was announced and billed as No Holds Barred, Falls Count Anywhere Match. Article reads "Hardcore Match" Small Technicality, wanted to mention before possibly editing Lbkid1700 ( talk) 23:24, 12 June 2018 (UTC) reply

So what? That's exactly what a "hardcore match" is. It even says so on the official WWE website. Don't change it. Nickag989 talk 18:35, 13 June 2018 (UTC) reply
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Good articleBacklash (2004) has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
March 31, 2008 Peer reviewReviewed
July 19, 2008 Good article nomineeListed
Current status: Good article

Attendance

There is no way there was only 13,000 at Backlash. The place was sold out, and Rexalls capacity is in the 16,000 region. I'm going to find a source and change it. This looks like more attempts to make Canada look inferior to the U.S. again. Killswitch Engage ( talk) 18:15, 27 March 2008 (UTC) reply

If you can find one, go right ahead. But, until then, it will remain 13,000. –Cheers, L A X 19:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC) reply
What I'm going to do is see if I can't track down a video of the event, where you hear J.R. clearly say, "over 18,000 on hand for Backlash. Thats an exaggeration, because Rexall only holds like 16,000 people. Can I use a wiki page as a reference for a capacity? I know that wrestling is set up similar to hockey, and the arena holds 16,000+ for ice hockey. Mind giving me a hand on that? Thanks. Killswitch Engage ( talk · contribs)
You may not use another Wikipedia page as a source, and you may only use a video if they are not illegally hosting WWE content (meaning YouTube is out of the question). –Cheers, L A X 19:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC) reply
So I could rip the footage from a DVD and send it to someone as proof? Killswitch Engage ( talk) 19:50, 27 March 2008 (UTC) reply
Or just cite the DVD using Template:Cite DVD-notes. –Cheers, L A X 19:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC) reply
Where do I put it on the page? Killswitch Engage ( talk) 05:16, 28 March 2008 (UTC) reply
In the Infobox, the only place where the attendance is mentioned. –Cheers, L A X 11:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC) reply
What the fuck? I put it in the infobox just like you said? Whats your problem now? Killswitch Engage ( talk) 04:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC) reply
It was messed up. [1] –Cheers, L A X 08:48, 29 March 2008 (UTC) reply
Alright then, you show me how to put it in. Killswitch Engage ( talk) 06:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC) reply

pre-GA review

Throughout the entire article make sure that the dates are Wiki-linked. It's mostly a problem in the aftermath.

Lead, Background, Pictures

  1. I don't see anything wrong with these sections.

Event

  1. Try to expand on the matches. They all seem to be a little bit too short.
  2. Combine the first, second, and third paragraphs.
    – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  3. And the fourth and fifth.
    – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  4. And the sixth and seventh.
    – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  5. Benjamie - self explanatory
    – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  6. The match saw Garrison Cade interfere - try to stay away from phrases such as "The match saw"
    Why? – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
    Because a match can't see something. You can say, during the duration of the match iMat thew 20 08 01:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  7. The match came about - huh?
    – L A X 15:52, 17 May 2008 (UTC) reply
  8. Can we find a better word that "catapulted"
    Zenlax T C S 20:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  9. Wiki-link "enziguiri kick"
    Zenlax T C S 20:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  10. The match that followed was for the WWE Women's Championship match I guess you can remove the work "match"
    Zenlax T C S 20:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  11. The match was controlled by both Victoria and Lita. how is the match controlled by both competitors?
    Zenlax T C S 20:15, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  12. Again, stay away from the phrase "One spot in the match saw"
    Why? – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  13. I believe "lay" should be "lye"
    Zenlax T C S 20:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  14. One spot in the match saw again in the last paragraph (It comes up twice), then Another included,
    Again, why? – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply

Aftermath

  1. Wiki-link or explain "Double champion"
    I think the term "Double champion" is explained, as it informs that Benoit retained the title and won the World Tag team title. Zenlax T C S 19:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
    I didn't know what you meant until now. It isn't really explained. iMat thew 20 08 20:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  2. Prior to Raw that night, Bischoff informed Triple H that the following week on Raw, he would have a title match against Benoit what was the result of this match?
    I don't quite follow. Zenlax T C S 19:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
    You're telling me that Triple H would have a title match against Benoit the following week. What happened in that match, and who won? iMat thew 20 08 20:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
    I saw that match, Chris Benoit won. DoorLearn ( talk) 15:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC) reply
    Fixed. – L A X 15:33, 25 June 2008 (UTC) reply
  3. "not a participant in the battle" changed "battle" to "match"
    Zenlax T C S 19:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  4. to know of he was scheduled i assume that "of" should be "if"
    Zenlax T C S 20:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  5. Bischoff assured Michaels, but was jumped from behind by Triple H, after Michaels attacked Triple H outside the arena's parking lot it's not clear who Triple H jumped...and use another word instead of "jumped"
    Zenlax T C S 20:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  6. RAW to Raw.... right?
    – L A X 01:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  7. Superstars does not need to have a capital "S"
    Zenlax T C S 19:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  8. 'question', if those are supposed to be quotation marks, then use "" not
  9. I'm confused. You mention that Kane received a title match in both paragraphs. I believe it should only be mentioned in the first paragraph. Remove it from the paragraph about Hardy/Lita. Also expand the Hardy/Lita section. How did the feud result?
  10. "problem solver" the quotation marks should not be wiki-linked.
    Please see Trish Stratus' article as the example is written there. Zenlax T C S 20:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  11. Wiki-link "Steel Cage match"
    Zenlax T C S 20:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  12. 'During a tag team match between Jericho and Shelton Benjamin, the tag match between Jericho and Shelton, does not make sense. The tag match between Jericho and Shelton vs. Batista and Ortan.
    Zenlax T C S 20:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply
  13. Again, stay away from this phrase "in which it saw him"
    Zenlax T C S 20:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply

Results

  1. Numbers in parentheses indicate the length of the match. -- should be small text
  2. The match notes all need to be sourced.

Let me know when you are done. iMat thew 20 08 01:30, 21 April 2008 (UTC) reply

Additional

I believe 411mania was proven not to be a reliable source, so I'd say all of those references need to be replaced. And change the publishers from "WWE" to " World Wrestling Entertainment" -- iMatthew T. C. 11:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC) reply

It's reliable enough for GAs, but not FAs. – L A X 03:00, 12 July 2008 (UTC) reply

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Backlash (2004)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

GA Review by S R X
Lead
  • Great wording, though I suggest adding a paragraph about the aftermath/background.
Background
Event
  • Before the event went live on pay-per-view, Val Venis defeated Matt Hardy in a match taped for Sunday Night HEAT. - per WP:PW/MOS, HEAT should follow the same rule as iMPACT, and be in regular font format.
  • The third match of the event was Chris Jericho versus Christian and Trish Stratus in a Handicap match, in which Jericho defeated both Christian and Stratus. - Why is the result shown before hand, while other's aren't in that format.
  • The match ended when Victoria pinned Lita after an Inside Cradle after Lita got a near fall on Victoria. - the last part "after Lita got a near..." is redundant and not relevant in that sentence.
  • Cactus continued, as he poured gasoline on the bat and tried to light it on fire. - continued what?
  • Assaults by both men took effect, until Orton managed to pin Cactus after an RKO on a barbed wire baseball bat - the first part of the sentence doesn't flow with the rest of it, consider revising.
  • Edge, however, reversed assaults by Kane, who he then attempted to spear. - attempted "to spear"? remove "to" and reword it into saying that he performed a spear.
Aftermath
  • Written well, I saw no flaws other than jargon, but not to worry for now.

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    Per comments above.
    B. MoS compliance:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    Written very good; though a couple of prose issues, until they are addressed, the article is  On hold for the time being, good luck in improving the article.-- S R X 03:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC) reply
Ok great work. Pass-- S R X 15:19, 19 July 2008 (UTC) reply

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Intercontinental Championship Match

Match was announced and billed as No Holds Barred, Falls Count Anywhere Match. Article reads "Hardcore Match" Small Technicality, wanted to mention before possibly editing Lbkid1700 ( talk) 23:24, 12 June 2018 (UTC) reply

So what? That's exactly what a "hardcore match" is. It even says so on the official WWE website. Don't change it. Nickag989 talk 18:35, 13 June 2018 (UTC) reply
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