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This needs tidying up and better citation than "www.freebabarahmed.com". For example, the allegation that he was tortured while in the custody of the British police. 222.152.12.200 22:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
More to come... Scholarcs 00:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Will be adding detail surrounding his website azzam.com, alleged links to Mazan Mokhtar and Shamil Basayev, alleged possession of classified routes of US naval battle group, and alleged attempts to buy sulpher phospate. Scholarcs 05:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Also - is there a reason this article is listed under "United Kingdom religious figure" stub and the "Muslim preachers" catagory? I know he is a Muslim - but I cannot find anything, even on his own website, which indicates he was a preacher or religious figure. Scholarcs 11:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Would it not make more sense to call the article "Babar Ahmad (terrorism suspect)", rather than "Babar Ahmad (terrorist suspect)"? "Terrorist Suspect", implies to me a suspect who is a terrorist, whereas terrorism suspect would imply someone who is suspected of terrorism, which is more accurate, less POV, and matches the normal term for someone suspected of any other crime, such as "murder suspect", rather than "murderer suspect".
I know the BBC and others use the "terrorist suspect" form, but it still seems quite wrong. There's an article about the use of this phrase at http://unspeak.net/terrorist-suspects/ Sorsoup ( talk) 18:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Suggestion I would suggest instead naming the article "Babar Ahmad" as we have no other persons of that name with articles and it is not Wikipedia practice to add descriptions to article names where no disambiguation is needed. If in the future there are other articles about persons of the same name a less POV description would be "computer expert". 199.125.109.126 ( talk) 18:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that makes sense to me. I think my account is still to new to move pages, but maybe I can do it tomorrow. sorsoup ( talk) 08:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC). Now moved to "Babar Ahmad". sorsoup ( talk) 12:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
This article has been tagged for over a year as not being neutral and being factually disputed. Can someone please state which parts of the article there is a problem is so that the tags can eventually be removed? Tags should only be a temporary measure and as I can't see what there is wrong with the article. If there are no comments within a month then I will remove the neutrality and factual accuracy tags. Smartse ( talk) 21:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Is http://www.freebabarahmad.com/ a reliable source? TIA -- Tom (talk) 16:00, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
The article says he attended a "Public School". In the UK this means a private school, in the US this means a state run school. Will someone please clarify? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.182.212 ( talk) 18:20, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Section is not very impartial. Use of emotive language "bundled" and unverified statements "without a chance to say goodbye to their families".
The BBC new website source listed does not support much of this section. Either another source should be provided or the unsourced material should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.147.81.140 ( talk) 07:43, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
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This needs tidying up and better citation than "www.freebabarahmed.com". For example, the allegation that he was tortured while in the custody of the British police. 222.152.12.200 22:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
More to come... Scholarcs 00:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Will be adding detail surrounding his website azzam.com, alleged links to Mazan Mokhtar and Shamil Basayev, alleged possession of classified routes of US naval battle group, and alleged attempts to buy sulpher phospate. Scholarcs 05:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Also - is there a reason this article is listed under "United Kingdom religious figure" stub and the "Muslim preachers" catagory? I know he is a Muslim - but I cannot find anything, even on his own website, which indicates he was a preacher or religious figure. Scholarcs 11:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Would it not make more sense to call the article "Babar Ahmad (terrorism suspect)", rather than "Babar Ahmad (terrorist suspect)"? "Terrorist Suspect", implies to me a suspect who is a terrorist, whereas terrorism suspect would imply someone who is suspected of terrorism, which is more accurate, less POV, and matches the normal term for someone suspected of any other crime, such as "murder suspect", rather than "murderer suspect".
I know the BBC and others use the "terrorist suspect" form, but it still seems quite wrong. There's an article about the use of this phrase at http://unspeak.net/terrorist-suspects/ Sorsoup ( talk) 18:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Suggestion I would suggest instead naming the article "Babar Ahmad" as we have no other persons of that name with articles and it is not Wikipedia practice to add descriptions to article names where no disambiguation is needed. If in the future there are other articles about persons of the same name a less POV description would be "computer expert". 199.125.109.126 ( talk) 18:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that makes sense to me. I think my account is still to new to move pages, but maybe I can do it tomorrow. sorsoup ( talk) 08:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC). Now moved to "Babar Ahmad". sorsoup ( talk) 12:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
This article has been tagged for over a year as not being neutral and being factually disputed. Can someone please state which parts of the article there is a problem is so that the tags can eventually be removed? Tags should only be a temporary measure and as I can't see what there is wrong with the article. If there are no comments within a month then I will remove the neutrality and factual accuracy tags. Smartse ( talk) 21:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Is http://www.freebabarahmad.com/ a reliable source? TIA -- Tom (talk) 16:00, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
The article says he attended a "Public School". In the UK this means a private school, in the US this means a state run school. Will someone please clarify? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.182.212 ( talk) 18:20, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Section is not very impartial. Use of emotive language "bundled" and unverified statements "without a chance to say goodbye to their families".
The BBC new website source listed does not support much of this section. Either another source should be provided or the unsourced material should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.147.81.140 ( talk) 07:43, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
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