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Errors in dates and wrong chronology
According to your article Baba Farid seems to have settled in Punjab with his family in the aftermath of Mongolian invasion of Kabul. The article states their date of settlement around 1125. Now, this is a well-known historical fact that Mongol invaded Kabul around 1222 on their way to destroy the Khawarzami Sultanate. Genghis Khan (real name Temujin) was born on 1162 then how he manages to invade Kabul in 1125.
On the chronology front, in one place the article mentions Shaik Shoaib to be Baba Farid’s grandfather who escapes Kabul to settle in Punjab, and a few lines later the same Shaik Shoaib is stated to be Baba Farid’s father.
Again in relation to Shaik Shoaib’s ancestral history, the article mentions him as the nephew of Sultan Mahmud Ghaznavi. This is another serious mistake because Sultan Mahmud Ghaznavi lived in the 10th Century and Shaik Shoaib lived in the 12th century.
In line with Wikipedia convention of naming articles (no honorifics), I think the correct title should be "Fariduddin Masood". Redirects can be created from Ganjshakar, Shakarganj, Baba Farid, Baba Fareed, etc etc Hassanfarooqi 14:09, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Baba Farid was a Muslim saint (1173–1266) while Sikhism was founded by Nanak (1469–1538), Baba Farid was dead for 400 years before Sikhism was even founded. How can he be a Sikh ? The Sikh gurus took his selective works added into Granth Sahib and revered him. The fact remain he was Muslim saint. There is a section in Fariduddin Ganjshakar page about his reverence in Sikhism. Paknur ( talk) 12:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
/* Life */ Removed the line that says he was the grandson of Ibn Adham. How can that be?They lived 8 centuries apart. Did you mean Descendent ? Needs substantiation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuadaj ( talk • contribs) 18:05, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
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Per WP:COMMONNAME, simply "Baba Farid" is easily the most recognisable name for this person. The older discussion above references a policy against honorifics in titles, but I think exceptions can be made in cases where recognition is impeded. We have article titles like Alexander the Great for example. عُثمان ( talk) 15:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved ( non-admin closure) — kashmīrī TALK 18:24, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Fariduddin Ganjshakar → Baba Farid – According to Google Books, "Baba Farid" is far more common than "Fariduddin Ganjshakar". Please see here. Requesting the article title to be moved to "Baba Farid" as per WP:COMMONNAME. ThethPunjabi ( talk) 15:34, 26 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping| ClydeFranklin}} ( t/ c) 17:56, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
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Errors in dates and wrong chronology
According to your article Baba Farid seems to have settled in Punjab with his family in the aftermath of Mongolian invasion of Kabul. The article states their date of settlement around 1125. Now, this is a well-known historical fact that Mongol invaded Kabul around 1222 on their way to destroy the Khawarzami Sultanate. Genghis Khan (real name Temujin) was born on 1162 then how he manages to invade Kabul in 1125.
On the chronology front, in one place the article mentions Shaik Shoaib to be Baba Farid’s grandfather who escapes Kabul to settle in Punjab, and a few lines later the same Shaik Shoaib is stated to be Baba Farid’s father.
Again in relation to Shaik Shoaib’s ancestral history, the article mentions him as the nephew of Sultan Mahmud Ghaznavi. This is another serious mistake because Sultan Mahmud Ghaznavi lived in the 10th Century and Shaik Shoaib lived in the 12th century.
In line with Wikipedia convention of naming articles (no honorifics), I think the correct title should be "Fariduddin Masood". Redirects can be created from Ganjshakar, Shakarganj, Baba Farid, Baba Fareed, etc etc Hassanfarooqi 14:09, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Baba Farid was a Muslim saint (1173–1266) while Sikhism was founded by Nanak (1469–1538), Baba Farid was dead for 400 years before Sikhism was even founded. How can he be a Sikh ? The Sikh gurus took his selective works added into Granth Sahib and revered him. The fact remain he was Muslim saint. There is a section in Fariduddin Ganjshakar page about his reverence in Sikhism. Paknur ( talk) 12:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
/* Life */ Removed the line that says he was the grandson of Ibn Adham. How can that be?They lived 8 centuries apart. Did you mean Descendent ? Needs substantiation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuadaj ( talk • contribs) 18:05, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
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Per WP:COMMONNAME, simply "Baba Farid" is easily the most recognisable name for this person. The older discussion above references a policy against honorifics in titles, but I think exceptions can be made in cases where recognition is impeded. We have article titles like Alexander the Great for example. عُثمان ( talk) 15:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved ( non-admin closure) — kashmīrī TALK 18:24, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Fariduddin Ganjshakar → Baba Farid – According to Google Books, "Baba Farid" is far more common than "Fariduddin Ganjshakar". Please see here. Requesting the article title to be moved to "Baba Farid" as per WP:COMMONNAME. ThethPunjabi ( talk) 15:34, 26 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping| ClydeFranklin}} ( t/ c) 17:56, 3 April 2023 (UTC)