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Huldra: In relation to your edit [1] (26-March-2019):
1. The source given as 43 Matériaux pour un Corpus Inscriptionum Arabicarum Part 2 Syrie du Sud T.1 Jérusalem "Ville" (Max van Berchem, 1922) - pp. 403-411 seems to be erroneous. The mention is rather on pg. 316: "En bordure nord de l’esplanade du haram, entre la porte apple Bab nitta (no. 168) a l’ouest et la minaret appele Ma’dhanat isra’il (no. 178) a l’est" - and does not refer to "Al-Asbat".
2. The source given as: MIFAO 45.2 Matériaux pour un Corpus Inscriptionum Arabicarum Part 2 Syrie du Sud T.3 Fasc. 2 Jérusalem Index general (Max van Berchem, 1920) - LXXI does not mention Al-Asbat at all in relation to the minaret, but rather "Ma’dhanat isra’il" - thrice:
3. Only in the source given as: MIFAO 44 Matériaux pour un Corpus Inscriptionum Arabicarum Part 2 Syrie du Sud T.2 Jérusalem Haram (Max van Berchem, 1927) - pp. 133-136 does it mention "Minaret du Bab Al-Asbat (Ma’dhanat isra’il)". "Al-Asbat" is referenced to Guy Le Strange, but his works are in fact a translations of the medieval Arab geographers. His Description of the Noble Sanctuary at Jerusalem in 1470 A.D., by Kamâl (or Shams) ad Dîn as Suyûtî (pg. 286) states "and one that rises above the Bab as Asbat", while pg. 303 provides the Arabic. Palestine under the Moslems; a description of Syria and the Holy Land from A.D. 650 to 1500 (pg. 149) again only states "and one that rises above the Bab as Asbat". And where the minarets are referred to again on pg. 170, it again only mentions the Al-Asbat Gate, not the actual name of the minaret. James Reynolds in History Of The Temple Of Jerusalem (1836) also does not name the minaret, but states: "and one over the Gate of the Long-haired (a tribe of Arabia, Al-Asbat)" (pg. 192).
I therefore do not see how these provided references can be used to support the name change of this page from "Minaret of Israel" to "Bab Al-Asbat Minaret" on the grounds that it "is the name it is known under in all the academic literature." In the three sources you provided from the same author, "Ma’dhanat isra’il" is mentioned five times against the single "Minaret du Bab Al-Asbat". In the other reference you provided, Mamluk Jerusalem: An Architectural Study, I can only find "al-Asbat" mentioned once, again in relation to the adjacent gate. Besides from the existing reference to "Minaret of Israel" by Menashe Har-El, I have found the following:
Regards, Chesdovi ( talk) 03:01, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Where? "along the north wall" is very vague (1/4 km long). Arminden ( talk) 07:11, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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Huldra: In relation to your edit [1] (26-March-2019):
1. The source given as 43 Matériaux pour un Corpus Inscriptionum Arabicarum Part 2 Syrie du Sud T.1 Jérusalem "Ville" (Max van Berchem, 1922) - pp. 403-411 seems to be erroneous. The mention is rather on pg. 316: "En bordure nord de l’esplanade du haram, entre la porte apple Bab nitta (no. 168) a l’ouest et la minaret appele Ma’dhanat isra’il (no. 178) a l’est" - and does not refer to "Al-Asbat".
2. The source given as: MIFAO 45.2 Matériaux pour un Corpus Inscriptionum Arabicarum Part 2 Syrie du Sud T.3 Fasc. 2 Jérusalem Index general (Max van Berchem, 1920) - LXXI does not mention Al-Asbat at all in relation to the minaret, but rather "Ma’dhanat isra’il" - thrice:
3. Only in the source given as: MIFAO 44 Matériaux pour un Corpus Inscriptionum Arabicarum Part 2 Syrie du Sud T.2 Jérusalem Haram (Max van Berchem, 1927) - pp. 133-136 does it mention "Minaret du Bab Al-Asbat (Ma’dhanat isra’il)". "Al-Asbat" is referenced to Guy Le Strange, but his works are in fact a translations of the medieval Arab geographers. His Description of the Noble Sanctuary at Jerusalem in 1470 A.D., by Kamâl (or Shams) ad Dîn as Suyûtî (pg. 286) states "and one that rises above the Bab as Asbat", while pg. 303 provides the Arabic. Palestine under the Moslems; a description of Syria and the Holy Land from A.D. 650 to 1500 (pg. 149) again only states "and one that rises above the Bab as Asbat". And where the minarets are referred to again on pg. 170, it again only mentions the Al-Asbat Gate, not the actual name of the minaret. James Reynolds in History Of The Temple Of Jerusalem (1836) also does not name the minaret, but states: "and one over the Gate of the Long-haired (a tribe of Arabia, Al-Asbat)" (pg. 192).
I therefore do not see how these provided references can be used to support the name change of this page from "Minaret of Israel" to "Bab Al-Asbat Minaret" on the grounds that it "is the name it is known under in all the academic literature." In the three sources you provided from the same author, "Ma’dhanat isra’il" is mentioned five times against the single "Minaret du Bab Al-Asbat". In the other reference you provided, Mamluk Jerusalem: An Architectural Study, I can only find "al-Asbat" mentioned once, again in relation to the adjacent gate. Besides from the existing reference to "Minaret of Israel" by Menashe Har-El, I have found the following:
Regards, Chesdovi ( talk) 03:01, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Where? "along the north wall" is very vague (1/4 km long). Arminden ( talk) 07:11, 9 March 2023 (UTC)