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In the article it says it is ironic that Diablo II features a boss named Baal. How is this ironic? Baal is used in this sense as one of the three rulers of hell, which is consistent with his depiction in demonology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.219.239.233 ( talk) 11:21, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
I think the image of Baal in the video game is interest. It allows for a comparison between the tradition Baal and comtemporary use. [anon user]
I was shocked by reading "Christian demon"... I'm quite sure (Roman Catholic) Christianty doesn't believe in demons, or alike. What do "Christian" means here? It's not stated nor linked... Maybe Medieval Christianty or something? -- euyyn 11:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
You mean the same Roman Catholic Church that recognizes and performs exorcisms? It's in the Catechism:
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/index/d.htm -- 13 April 2008
Demons are a very central theme in Christianity, I don't understand how you do not know that. http://www.religioustolerance.org/dem_bibl.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.51.155.100 ( talk) 14:20, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
To believe in god u must believe in demons or bad. look up ur facts before u speak them out —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.1.219 ( talk) 05:37, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
That just makes no sense, If you believe in the Christian God you must believe in Jesus and angels, in which you must believe in Satan aswell as demons, sources can be found in a bible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.129.75.181 ( talk) 20:29, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Should this page be merged with the god Baal, as the demon described on this page is basically a christian interpretation of the aforementioned god? Many gods of polytheistic belief systems were regarded as "demons" by early Christianity, as they were seen as a form of idol worship. In the Dictionaire Infernal, the Hindu goddess Kali is listed as a demon, and many other deities who are listed on Wikipedia have also been regarded as demons by various sources. Further, several of the articles on these deities include descriptions of various misinterpretations of the beliefs of those who worshiped them, including the artile on the god Baal. Are the differences between the Semetic god and the demon based off of it different enough that the Christian demon is effectively a completely different being, or should these articles be merged?-- 66.24.229.7 20:20, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
This page should be named Bael wich is the correct name in christianity, and not Baal.-- 151.47.91.209 ( talk) 10:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
I never knew that Baal meant "Lord" in anyway, i thought that he was one single god, not several. The bible talks about Baal as a fake idol god, in several differnt books. I'm suprised they just took all of the other religions and put them into one word, Baal. They also talk about human sacraficing with the context of Baal.
Why does this article use the word Levant to refer to part of the middle east? Not very relevant considering it's a outdated, imprecise medieval term. However I'm not aware of which area the author is referring to and therefore cannot amend. 61.95.65.186 08:17, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I think its offensive that this article is saying that Christianity turns any foreign god into demons or false idols. (Supposing you are a theist) I think we have legitimate reason to believe Baal (That is how it is spelled in the NKJ version of the bible) is a demon, as he requires people to sacrifice their children in fire, something specifically forbidden by the Lord God. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2020:2-5 http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?passage=Deuteronomy+18%3A10
It should be rephrased in a manner which does not portray Christianity arbitrarily giving gods the 'demon' title, as this is a very serious charge in the bible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.51.155.100 ( talk) 14:31, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
God should be a demon too, he used to ask for a sacrifice too... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.38.84.204 ( talk) 01:21, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
As far as I can find, other than mass extermination by His hand, God has only asked for one human sacrifice, and even that was just a test to see if Abraham would actually do as he was told; a test of obedience so to speak.
By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, (KJV)-Hebrews 11:17
The God of the Old Testament only asked for animal or material good sacrifice (as bartering was still very prevalent) for atonement.
And the king went to Gibeon to sacrifice there; for that was the great high place: a thousand burnt offerings did Solomon offer upon that altar. 1 Kings 3:4 (KJV)
In return, God offered his son as a sacrifice to end all animal sacrifices. Now we just tithe.
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. (KJV)-Romans 12:1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.14.112.41 ( talk) 15:02, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
I have pruned, linked to the main article, and spun out other to Baal in popular culture. In ictu oculi ( talk) 03:54, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
This is an embarrassingly poor inclusion. Aside from the Christian fundamentalist web page in source link 3, no Celtic Studies scholar would agree with the etymological root of the modern Beltaine (itself an borrowing of the Old Irish Beltaine, arguably derived from proto-Celtic belo-te(p)niâ) being derived from a common origin with the English Baal. There is also no etymological or established cultural link between Samhain and Baal, nor Baal and the term "Halloween" for that matter. This segment should be removed from the article, unless self-published fundamentalist Christian web pages are acceptable sources?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.11.79.185 ( talk • contribs)
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In the article it says it is ironic that Diablo II features a boss named Baal. How is this ironic? Baal is used in this sense as one of the three rulers of hell, which is consistent with his depiction in demonology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.219.239.233 ( talk) 11:21, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
I think the image of Baal in the video game is interest. It allows for a comparison between the tradition Baal and comtemporary use. [anon user]
I was shocked by reading "Christian demon"... I'm quite sure (Roman Catholic) Christianty doesn't believe in demons, or alike. What do "Christian" means here? It's not stated nor linked... Maybe Medieval Christianty or something? -- euyyn 11:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
You mean the same Roman Catholic Church that recognizes and performs exorcisms? It's in the Catechism:
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/index/d.htm -- 13 April 2008
Demons are a very central theme in Christianity, I don't understand how you do not know that. http://www.religioustolerance.org/dem_bibl.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.51.155.100 ( talk) 14:20, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
To believe in god u must believe in demons or bad. look up ur facts before u speak them out —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.1.219 ( talk) 05:37, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
That just makes no sense, If you believe in the Christian God you must believe in Jesus and angels, in which you must believe in Satan aswell as demons, sources can be found in a bible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.129.75.181 ( talk) 20:29, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Should this page be merged with the god Baal, as the demon described on this page is basically a christian interpretation of the aforementioned god? Many gods of polytheistic belief systems were regarded as "demons" by early Christianity, as they were seen as a form of idol worship. In the Dictionaire Infernal, the Hindu goddess Kali is listed as a demon, and many other deities who are listed on Wikipedia have also been regarded as demons by various sources. Further, several of the articles on these deities include descriptions of various misinterpretations of the beliefs of those who worshiped them, including the artile on the god Baal. Are the differences between the Semetic god and the demon based off of it different enough that the Christian demon is effectively a completely different being, or should these articles be merged?-- 66.24.229.7 20:20, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
This page should be named Bael wich is the correct name in christianity, and not Baal.-- 151.47.91.209 ( talk) 10:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
I never knew that Baal meant "Lord" in anyway, i thought that he was one single god, not several. The bible talks about Baal as a fake idol god, in several differnt books. I'm suprised they just took all of the other religions and put them into one word, Baal. They also talk about human sacraficing with the context of Baal.
Why does this article use the word Levant to refer to part of the middle east? Not very relevant considering it's a outdated, imprecise medieval term. However I'm not aware of which area the author is referring to and therefore cannot amend. 61.95.65.186 08:17, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I think its offensive that this article is saying that Christianity turns any foreign god into demons or false idols. (Supposing you are a theist) I think we have legitimate reason to believe Baal (That is how it is spelled in the NKJ version of the bible) is a demon, as he requires people to sacrifice their children in fire, something specifically forbidden by the Lord God. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2020:2-5 http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?passage=Deuteronomy+18%3A10
It should be rephrased in a manner which does not portray Christianity arbitrarily giving gods the 'demon' title, as this is a very serious charge in the bible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.51.155.100 ( talk) 14:31, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
God should be a demon too, he used to ask for a sacrifice too... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.38.84.204 ( talk) 01:21, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
As far as I can find, other than mass extermination by His hand, God has only asked for one human sacrifice, and even that was just a test to see if Abraham would actually do as he was told; a test of obedience so to speak.
By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, (KJV)-Hebrews 11:17
The God of the Old Testament only asked for animal or material good sacrifice (as bartering was still very prevalent) for atonement.
And the king went to Gibeon to sacrifice there; for that was the great high place: a thousand burnt offerings did Solomon offer upon that altar. 1 Kings 3:4 (KJV)
In return, God offered his son as a sacrifice to end all animal sacrifices. Now we just tithe.
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. (KJV)-Romans 12:1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.14.112.41 ( talk) 15:02, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
I have pruned, linked to the main article, and spun out other to Baal in popular culture. In ictu oculi ( talk) 03:54, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
This is an embarrassingly poor inclusion. Aside from the Christian fundamentalist web page in source link 3, no Celtic Studies scholar would agree with the etymological root of the modern Beltaine (itself an borrowing of the Old Irish Beltaine, arguably derived from proto-Celtic belo-te(p)niâ) being derived from a common origin with the English Baal. There is also no etymological or established cultural link between Samhain and Baal, nor Baal and the term "Halloween" for that matter. This segment should be removed from the article, unless self-published fundamentalist Christian web pages are acceptable sources?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.11.79.185 ( talk • contribs)