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Hi Troy26Castillo, I wanted to discuss the changes I'm making to this article. I want this group to have a high quality article, which means it needs to get more focused, more in line with WP:SUMMARY style, and have better sources. I think there's no reason to believe that BGYO do not deserve an article, so the key is to make it encyclopedic. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of everything that's ever been posted online about this group. The key is to summarize their career and music while avoiding tilting into becoming a fan page. Let me know what you think. Ganesha811 ( talk) 13:40, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
I noticed that the article is clearly written from a fan's point of view, I hope the author of the article cleans it up and someone copyread it. -– A 6397 T A L K! 02:39, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Ganesha811, please check this out, the ones you noticed in the article previously and then we fixed and corrected. Then, everything was just revised by A6397. Now I am confused which one is correct. Please enlighten me on this matter. Why it has to be like this. As per the neutrality, it has been discussed also with David notMD. Why there is repetition of issues when it has been discussed and corrected previously? I respect all the possible corrections in this article to make it more acceptable but what i don't understand is the issues previously addressed and corrected of another contributor that I thought was correct was reverted by another contributor. It is not helping if like this. Troy26Castillo ( talk) 09:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
To the main editor of the article, @ Troy26Castillo, please avoid adding redundant contents that is already stated on the other sections of the page. Thanks. Cairo ● 💌 ● ✒️ 21:53, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Angelo Troy Rivera which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 09:20, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
The whole article has excessive mentions of non-notable events and has too many quotations that are deemed redundant (also by other users in this talk page). I am suggesting in limiting them to the important ones only, I can do a cleanup but I want the article author to do it himself. He seems to be obsessed in editing this article according to the edit history that it is sounding like an advertisement. If you take note of how One Direction and other similar articles are written, they wouldn't mention Facebook livestreams or Kumu events. The group is still too new to have a cultural impact section with just quotations from their press releases (that their management has paid to be released). An article should abide thru Wikipedia's notablity guidelines.-– A 6397 T A L K! 00:10, 22 March 2023 (UTC) – A 6397 T A L K! 00:10, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
Hello. I just rewrote the lead section for copy editing, primarily for improvements. Several references that were used to cite single topics from the section were removed, as it seems to be a citation kill. One example was when ten sources were used to support the same topic. Though the inline citation was done through citation merging, one reputable, reliable source is arguably enough. Additionally, some passages were removed based on their notability and/or importance to be included in the lead section. The passage about the group's musical style was moved to BGYO#Artistry as it fits in the section. The artistry section was also trimmed down as it contains too many artists, with each having wikilinks, making the section look cluttered.
This is just a small improvement relative to the article's size. The article still needs major revisions as it still contains multiple issues (see Talk:BGYO#Suggestions for improvement for some info). The contents (particularly the BGYO#History) look very cluttered in wikilinks and citations, and the notability of some of the subjects is questionable. For concerns and questions, feel free to reply here. AstrooKai ( talk) 16:46, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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Hi Troy26Castillo, I wanted to discuss the changes I'm making to this article. I want this group to have a high quality article, which means it needs to get more focused, more in line with WP:SUMMARY style, and have better sources. I think there's no reason to believe that BGYO do not deserve an article, so the key is to make it encyclopedic. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of everything that's ever been posted online about this group. The key is to summarize their career and music while avoiding tilting into becoming a fan page. Let me know what you think. Ganesha811 ( talk) 13:40, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
I noticed that the article is clearly written from a fan's point of view, I hope the author of the article cleans it up and someone copyread it. -– A 6397 T A L K! 02:39, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Ganesha811, please check this out, the ones you noticed in the article previously and then we fixed and corrected. Then, everything was just revised by A6397. Now I am confused which one is correct. Please enlighten me on this matter. Why it has to be like this. As per the neutrality, it has been discussed also with David notMD. Why there is repetition of issues when it has been discussed and corrected previously? I respect all the possible corrections in this article to make it more acceptable but what i don't understand is the issues previously addressed and corrected of another contributor that I thought was correct was reverted by another contributor. It is not helping if like this. Troy26Castillo ( talk) 09:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
To the main editor of the article, @ Troy26Castillo, please avoid adding redundant contents that is already stated on the other sections of the page. Thanks. Cairo ● 💌 ● ✒️ 21:53, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
ACEs (BGYO fandom). The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 18#ACEs (BGYO fandom) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
Howard the Duck (
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20:00, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:
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The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 10:22, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Angelo Troy Rivera which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 09:20, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
The whole article has excessive mentions of non-notable events and has too many quotations that are deemed redundant (also by other users in this talk page). I am suggesting in limiting them to the important ones only, I can do a cleanup but I want the article author to do it himself. He seems to be obsessed in editing this article according to the edit history that it is sounding like an advertisement. If you take note of how One Direction and other similar articles are written, they wouldn't mention Facebook livestreams or Kumu events. The group is still too new to have a cultural impact section with just quotations from their press releases (that their management has paid to be released). An article should abide thru Wikipedia's notablity guidelines.-– A 6397 T A L K! 00:10, 22 March 2023 (UTC) – A 6397 T A L K! 00:10, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
Hello. I just rewrote the lead section for copy editing, primarily for improvements. Several references that were used to cite single topics from the section were removed, as it seems to be a citation kill. One example was when ten sources were used to support the same topic. Though the inline citation was done through citation merging, one reputable, reliable source is arguably enough. Additionally, some passages were removed based on their notability and/or importance to be included in the lead section. The passage about the group's musical style was moved to BGYO#Artistry as it fits in the section. The artistry section was also trimmed down as it contains too many artists, with each having wikilinks, making the section look cluttered.
This is just a small improvement relative to the article's size. The article still needs major revisions as it still contains multiple issues (see Talk:BGYO#Suggestions for improvement for some info). The contents (particularly the BGYO#History) look very cluttered in wikilinks and citations, and the notability of some of the subjects is questionable. For concerns and questions, feel free to reply here. AstrooKai ( talk) 16:46, 26 June 2024 (UTC)