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Reviewer: CooperScience ( talk · contribs) 17:07, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
1. "He is also a Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Visiting Professor at the National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore."
2. "whose Telugu speaking ancestors had migrated from Andhra Pradesh to Karnataka. B. V. Pandit, an Ayurvedic physician"
3. "He was married to Ratna, a classical musician, whom he married in 1953."
Checking on the first name, will add it once known -- jojo@nthony ( talk) 02:46, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Overall, I believe that this article is suitable to be a good article. Great work! I may recommend for another user to review this as well.
Adding a follow up review, per the comment above and a request on my talk page.
The Government of India awarded him the third highest civilian honour of Padma Bhushan in 1988: suggest "The Government of India awarded him the Padma Bhushan, India's third highest civilian honour, in 1988.
He was married to Ratna, a classical musician, whom he married in 1953. Ratna died in 2006.: suggest "He married Ratna, a classical musician, in 1953; she died in 2006."
equipped with and Extensive Air Shower array: presumably "and" is a typo for "an". Why is this capitalized? And I assume this means an array for detection of air showers; I think this should be clearer to a reader who does not click through. typos removed. EAS array is a technical equipment, that was the reason why it was capitalized. A brief description of the equipment is given now.-- jojo@nthony ( talk) 16:54, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
One of his early assignments at TIFR was the studies of cosmic ray produced muons at deep terrains: several issues here. "One" is singular, but "studies" is plural; they should match. It should be "cosmic-ray-produced", if this is being used as an adjectival phrase modifying muons. And "deep terrains" is not a natural phrase. Do you mean subterranean detection of muons, or subterranean production, or both? corrected as per suggestion -- jojo@nthony ( talk) 17:01, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
This research developed into the Proton Decay experiments of the 1980: this is phrased as though the reader is expected to know what this is; is this research Sreekantan did, or that others did? And again why the capitals? corrected as per suggestion -- jojo@nthony ( talk) 17:05, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
learning advancements: rephrase; not a colloquial phrase.
He set up his laboratory from the war salvages from World War II: Rephrase; "war salvages" is a clumsy way to say this.
His findings were published as a scientific paper in the Indian journal, Proceedings of Indian Academy of Sciences in 1951: not wrong, but it might make more sense to cut the whole sentence and instead cite that paper along with the existing source. It's redundant to say his findings were published as a scientific paper in a journal; that's what how all modern scientific findings are reported. The citation would actually give the reader the pointer to the paper itself. You have a similar sentence below for the PICRC paper; I would make the same change there.
18 events of neutrino interactions on the rock: what rock?
He was also a member of the team that experimented on the Grand Unification Theory: one can't do experiments on a theory; one does experiments to validate or disprove a theory, or inspired by the theory, or to test the theory, or something along those lines.
the decay of protons in deep environment: what does "deep environment" mean? And why do we need lists of apparently non-notable collaborators? We can just say he was part of a team, unless there's something notable about one or more of the other memers, for partnerships. If there's just one co-researcher it makes more sense to give the name.
Later, a larger cloud chamber, the largest one till then: largest in the world? In India?
It is reported that he motivated Govind Swarup to prepare the proposal for the establishment of: an odd thing to include. Why "It is reported that", first of all? If it's reliable, we can cut these four words; if not, the whole sentence needs to go. But why mention it at all? Is it really significant that he suggested someone else write a suggestion for something else?
along with R. L. Kapur, a known psychiatrist: using "known" as an adjective usually indicates that something is publicly known of a pejorative nature: "a known criminal". I'd cut it, or if you mean "notable", replace it if you can source something more specific.
The sources appear to be good quality, and I see no problems with close paraphrasing or copyvio. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 16:11, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
I've decided to fail this nomination. A good deal of work has been done on fixing issues, but a thorough review to compare the article text to the sources is needed. For example, after some discussion on whether the source supported a sentence about an air shower array, it was removed, but the first half of the sentence remains, saying "the research team he established for studies in high energy cosmic rays is still active". The source, referring to some 1950s experiments, "These were the modest beginnings of the Cosmic Ray Laboratory at KGF, which today boasts of a 400-ton detector..." This does not indicate that there is any connection, organizational or lineal, with the research team (or teams) there today; and it's also not clear from the source that "he established" is an accurate statement -- Naranan simply says the two of them worked together, without giving priority. This is not an isolated issue, as can be seen by reading through the review notes above, and I do not have faith that the nominator understands how closely a source must support a statement. I would suggest checking every statement against the source to be sure it's strictly accurate before renominating -- this is not work that should be taking place at GA. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 10:55, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
I'm shocked to see as to the stunning lack of coherence between the references and the supported text.I will be probably devoting some time to this article, so as to bring it to GA standards..... ∯WBG converse 05:09, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
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1. "He is also a Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Visiting Professor at the National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore."
2. "whose Telugu speaking ancestors had migrated from Andhra Pradesh to Karnataka. B. V. Pandit, an Ayurvedic physician"
3. "He was married to Ratna, a classical musician, whom he married in 1953."
Checking on the first name, will add it once known -- jojo@nthony ( talk) 02:46, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Overall, I believe that this article is suitable to be a good article. Great work! I may recommend for another user to review this as well.
Adding a follow up review, per the comment above and a request on my talk page.
The Government of India awarded him the third highest civilian honour of Padma Bhushan in 1988: suggest "The Government of India awarded him the Padma Bhushan, India's third highest civilian honour, in 1988.
He was married to Ratna, a classical musician, whom he married in 1953. Ratna died in 2006.: suggest "He married Ratna, a classical musician, in 1953; she died in 2006."
equipped with and Extensive Air Shower array: presumably "and" is a typo for "an". Why is this capitalized? And I assume this means an array for detection of air showers; I think this should be clearer to a reader who does not click through. typos removed. EAS array is a technical equipment, that was the reason why it was capitalized. A brief description of the equipment is given now.-- jojo@nthony ( talk) 16:54, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
One of his early assignments at TIFR was the studies of cosmic ray produced muons at deep terrains: several issues here. "One" is singular, but "studies" is plural; they should match. It should be "cosmic-ray-produced", if this is being used as an adjectival phrase modifying muons. And "deep terrains" is not a natural phrase. Do you mean subterranean detection of muons, or subterranean production, or both? corrected as per suggestion -- jojo@nthony ( talk) 17:01, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
This research developed into the Proton Decay experiments of the 1980: this is phrased as though the reader is expected to know what this is; is this research Sreekantan did, or that others did? And again why the capitals? corrected as per suggestion -- jojo@nthony ( talk) 17:05, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
learning advancements: rephrase; not a colloquial phrase.
He set up his laboratory from the war salvages from World War II: Rephrase; "war salvages" is a clumsy way to say this.
His findings were published as a scientific paper in the Indian journal, Proceedings of Indian Academy of Sciences in 1951: not wrong, but it might make more sense to cut the whole sentence and instead cite that paper along with the existing source. It's redundant to say his findings were published as a scientific paper in a journal; that's what how all modern scientific findings are reported. The citation would actually give the reader the pointer to the paper itself. You have a similar sentence below for the PICRC paper; I would make the same change there.
18 events of neutrino interactions on the rock: what rock?
He was also a member of the team that experimented on the Grand Unification Theory: one can't do experiments on a theory; one does experiments to validate or disprove a theory, or inspired by the theory, or to test the theory, or something along those lines.
the decay of protons in deep environment: what does "deep environment" mean? And why do we need lists of apparently non-notable collaborators? We can just say he was part of a team, unless there's something notable about one or more of the other memers, for partnerships. If there's just one co-researcher it makes more sense to give the name.
Later, a larger cloud chamber, the largest one till then: largest in the world? In India?
It is reported that he motivated Govind Swarup to prepare the proposal for the establishment of: an odd thing to include. Why "It is reported that", first of all? If it's reliable, we can cut these four words; if not, the whole sentence needs to go. But why mention it at all? Is it really significant that he suggested someone else write a suggestion for something else?
along with R. L. Kapur, a known psychiatrist: using "known" as an adjective usually indicates that something is publicly known of a pejorative nature: "a known criminal". I'd cut it, or if you mean "notable", replace it if you can source something more specific.
The sources appear to be good quality, and I see no problems with close paraphrasing or copyvio. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 16:11, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
I've decided to fail this nomination. A good deal of work has been done on fixing issues, but a thorough review to compare the article text to the sources is needed. For example, after some discussion on whether the source supported a sentence about an air shower array, it was removed, but the first half of the sentence remains, saying "the research team he established for studies in high energy cosmic rays is still active". The source, referring to some 1950s experiments, "These were the modest beginnings of the Cosmic Ray Laboratory at KGF, which today boasts of a 400-ton detector..." This does not indicate that there is any connection, organizational or lineal, with the research team (or teams) there today; and it's also not clear from the source that "he established" is an accurate statement -- Naranan simply says the two of them worked together, without giving priority. This is not an isolated issue, as can be seen by reading through the review notes above, and I do not have faith that the nominator understands how closely a source must support a statement. I would suggest checking every statement against the source to be sure it's strictly accurate before renominating -- this is not work that should be taking place at GA. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 10:55, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
I'm shocked to see as to the stunning lack of coherence between the references and the supported text.I will be probably devoting some time to this article, so as to bring it to GA standards..... ∯WBG converse 05:09, 16 June 2018 (UTC)