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This article was initially authored by User:Indiasummer95 and edited by User:Tátótát one of Indiasummer95's many sockpuppets. He/she has subsequently been blocked indefinitely for abusive use of multiple accounts including vandalism of similar Muslim community activists pages. The initial text appears to have been selectively clubbed together from only negative newspaper articles which themselves do not always give citations to the claims made.
This is one of the most prominent British Muslims and its a shame that were people to visit wikipedia to check the veracity of a newspaper article all they will find is a rehash of unverified claims made in newspapers. I have removed a few unverified claims which may well be libellous and will research the points left before rewriting where necessary citing primary sources where possible. I will also find new information to give a fairer and more balanced overall picture.
I am not an experienced editor so please give advice in talk rather than just changing something I have done and walking away. Thankyou. Aathomson ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:43, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
I've updated the article with as much primary source material as i can find and removed some of the contentious material which was only referenced by tabloid journalism as per BLP guidelines. I have tried to balance the tone of the content too which was very negative being based entirely on critical tabloid articles. I would appreciate any feedback and suggestions to further improve the article or to learn from as far as editing in general goes. Aathomson ( talk) 21:06, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
I notice that every edit of the page i have done has been deleted with no contact and no discussion on the talk page. I see i'm assumed to be someone with COI from the AfD page. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Azad_Ali Actually this makes me wonder what the purpose of wikipedia is. It seems notability has to be from the perspective of the the white western perspective. In the Muslim community there is no doubt that the subject is notable, though all of the activities he is notable for have now been removed from the page leaving once more just unbalanced repetition of claims made by journalists. Is that what wikipedia is for? I notice that self published sources such as MEND website and the subjects official blog is discussed as though it is not allowed as a source while the BLP policy is clear that it can be used /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Using_the_subject_as_a_self-published_source I was trying to present a more balanced overview of a notable person in the Muslim community and in fact i would say notable in Britain generally considering his political work.
I notice that the editor who proposed the article for deletion dropped the suggestion and 4 minutes later reverted the article back to the oldest purely negative state before i attempted to balanced it. Then he was happy. This suggests to me a POV. The article is certainly not better now, for example he no longer works for MEND but this editor is happy with the inaccurate article now. What does that say. I'm going to undo that revision and then lets discuss the article section by section rather than bulk undoing. Aathomson ( talk) 10:54, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
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This article was initially authored by User:Indiasummer95 and edited by User:Tátótát one of Indiasummer95's many sockpuppets. He/she has subsequently been blocked indefinitely for abusive use of multiple accounts including vandalism of similar Muslim community activists pages. The initial text appears to have been selectively clubbed together from only negative newspaper articles which themselves do not always give citations to the claims made.
This is one of the most prominent British Muslims and its a shame that were people to visit wikipedia to check the veracity of a newspaper article all they will find is a rehash of unverified claims made in newspapers. I have removed a few unverified claims which may well be libellous and will research the points left before rewriting where necessary citing primary sources where possible. I will also find new information to give a fairer and more balanced overall picture.
I am not an experienced editor so please give advice in talk rather than just changing something I have done and walking away. Thankyou. Aathomson ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:43, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
I've updated the article with as much primary source material as i can find and removed some of the contentious material which was only referenced by tabloid journalism as per BLP guidelines. I have tried to balance the tone of the content too which was very negative being based entirely on critical tabloid articles. I would appreciate any feedback and suggestions to further improve the article or to learn from as far as editing in general goes. Aathomson ( talk) 21:06, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
I notice that every edit of the page i have done has been deleted with no contact and no discussion on the talk page. I see i'm assumed to be someone with COI from the AfD page. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Azad_Ali Actually this makes me wonder what the purpose of wikipedia is. It seems notability has to be from the perspective of the the white western perspective. In the Muslim community there is no doubt that the subject is notable, though all of the activities he is notable for have now been removed from the page leaving once more just unbalanced repetition of claims made by journalists. Is that what wikipedia is for? I notice that self published sources such as MEND website and the subjects official blog is discussed as though it is not allowed as a source while the BLP policy is clear that it can be used /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Using_the_subject_as_a_self-published_source I was trying to present a more balanced overview of a notable person in the Muslim community and in fact i would say notable in Britain generally considering his political work.
I notice that the editor who proposed the article for deletion dropped the suggestion and 4 minutes later reverted the article back to the oldest purely negative state before i attempted to balanced it. Then he was happy. This suggests to me a POV. The article is certainly not better now, for example he no longer works for MEND but this editor is happy with the inaccurate article now. What does that say. I'm going to undo that revision and then lets discuss the article section by section rather than bulk undoing. Aathomson ( talk) 10:54, 13 March 2018 (UTC)