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I see that Here Today Gone To Hell has been used as a source for history of W. Axl Rose in GNR and so I have edited the page myself with the information I have from 'Classic Rock, July 2007, Issue 107' which is a more valid source of information on the early days of GNR and not a personal website. If there are any problems please inform me. Renegade MUFC 16:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
"Best known"??? What the hell else is he noteworthy for?
This article needs a complete re-work. I have removed a ton of claims from the article that have no sources. Before anyone attempts a rewrite I would suggest that you take a look at Wikipedia's guidelines for writing a biography of living persons at WP:BIO. Unsourced negative information must be removed IMMEDIATELY. We cannot use blogs and personal websites as sources for such information. You must use reliable secondary sources to make these claims. Vivaldi ( talk) 11:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
This article seems to be stripped of a whole lot of information. Nothing on his relationships, some of his feuds, Erins miscarrage, and other notable things. Its only about early life, Look at You Game Girl, and Chinese Democracy.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.223.107.220 ( talk) 18:30, 22 March 2007
Trivia section is relevent, and should remain.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pro-trivia ( talk • contribs) 22:45, 24 March 2007.
On Wikipedia we use the name that a person is most notable under. In nearly every source that refers to Axl Rose in the media he is referred to as Axl Rose and not "W. Axl Rose". We don't put "Tom Cruise" under "Thomas Mapother" or even "Thomas Cruise", because neither of those names are what he is best known by. I don't mind if you want to mention that Axl Rose's full legal name is "W. Axl Rose", but you'll need to provide a reliable source to make that claim in the article. The first sentence should discuss "Axl Rose", the name he is notable for, and not "W. Axl Rose", which nobody ever calls him in popular culture or otherwise. Vivaldi ( talk) 21:23, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, that's true. And he did change is name to Axl Rose so it is his official name. Course, the W. stands for something but either way, your right, we should reference him as Axl Rose as just Rose. Not everything has to be so formal. And also, why is there a picture of him from 2006? Why not one from 1985, when the band was founded? MaulYoda 00:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
All i think is that the article should BEGIN with W. Axl Rose not be called that or call him that all the way through the article because he is more commonly known as 'Axl Rose'. His name has never been 'Axl Rose'. In 1985, he changed his name to 'W. Axl Rose' the 'W' is not an abbreviation. Bucketheader 09:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't know anything about America or it's court documents. Can they be easily found on the internet? Bucketheader 16:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
after reading the imdb source, if you want to mention his credits, it's probably correct to say he is 'most often' credited as w axl rose. looking at the ref, this would be true. the_undertow talk 01:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Am I the only person to realise that "Axl Rose" is an anagram of "Oral Sex"? Arkyopterix 14:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC) I tried to add it, but they took it off.
No. Bucketheader 14:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
There is no need for a third opinion as there is a reliable source which states his correct name. Maurauth, thanks for your edits, but they are incorrect; his name has never been 'Axl Rose'; he was born 'William Rose', grew up as 'William Bailey' and then changed his name to 'W. Axl Rose'. The 'W.' is not an abbreviation, he chose that because he didn't want to share a name with his father and 'Axl' comes from a pre-Guns N' Roses band he was in called 'A.X.L', please understand this and not start an "edit war" like your, and mine, previous edits have created. This is a well-known fact and there is a source in the article for this. Bucketheader 13:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, but they won't reference his name as 'Axl Rose', they'll just refer to him as that. You see, anyone who knows anything about Rose, or GN'R, or even rock music for that matter, knows what his name is. Bucketheader 22:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Well I'll admit I don't know much about the guy, but I know a HELL of a lot about rock music, infact that's one of the things in my life that I know the most about. How can you tell the difference betwen referencing and refering... Maurauth 22:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Lojah 22:43, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Is there something wrong with my computer, or is there no colour in the infobox when it's supposed to be yellow. 75pickup ( talk · contribs) 17:11, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I deleted the section about Steven Adler's "rivalry" with Axl. There really seems to be no real source for it other than Adler himself (who is not known for being credible), it's all speculation and really seems to be little more than high school type gossip. DanielEng 09:00, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
I've gone through the article--with the exception of the FEUDS section--and tried to make sure every single point is researched and references. There were a lot of outright inaccuracies in the old article (for instance the section which stated GnR was "brought to LA in 1987"...they were from LA!) and a lot of things that could have been elaborated on.
I haven't deleted much, I've reorganized. Some points:
1. Trivia has been incorporated into the article as much as possible. The only two things I couldn't find a place for were the Estranged and Venezuelan coup things. 2. The band history and Chinese Democracy stuff seemed to just rehash what is already in the Guns N' Roses article, so I thought perhaps it'd be better to direct people there and leave this article to Axl himself.
If there's a problem with the edit, please don't kill me, just let me know. I really tried my best to make this as comprehensive, accurate and NPOV as possible. DanielEng 06:49, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
One quick question. Why are there two citations for the very first word of the article? -Icewedge 05:57, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Here's a source for Dan McCafferty's quote. [3] I'd add it myself, but I don't know how to format refs properly. Funeral 16:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
The word "shit" appears 3 times and the word "fuck" appears several times in the article. I know that when quoting someone, you are supposed to quote him completely and percisely, but can't these words edited to more appropiate words? There is another way of saying "stay the fuck out of the shit....", even if it's not the exact words used by the man quoted. YemeniteCamel 14:24, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Please leave a note on my talk page when you're done with this stuff - cheers, — Dihydrogen Monoxide 03:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
*Refs 1 and 2 need full {{
cite web}} style formatting
*"participating school chorus and studying piano" - Need an "in" before "school"
*"Axl publicly stated that he was sexually abused by his biological father. [3][3][5]" - Refer to him as "Rose", not "Axl". Also you don't need to repeat ref #3. And, there shouldn't be a space between the full stop and the ref.
*"Axl's mother remarried when he was a small child." - Again, Rose not Axl
*"Rose as a habitual criminal in his late teenage years. [8]When he was 17" - There should be a space after the ref and not before it
*"Once in Los Angeles, Rose began performing with various local bands, including Rapidfire[16], Rose, L.A. Guns[17] and Hollywood Rose." - Put all the refs at the end of the sentence
*"for the reported wages of $8/hour. [15]" - Ref placement
*"In various reports in the press, he was referred to as the "Howard Hughes of rock" [20] and "rock's greatest recluse." [19]" - Moves ref to end of sentence, ensure no space between full stop and refs.
*Ref 24 needs proper formatting
*"$6,000 in fines and was released and the Summer European tour continued as scheduled. [27]" - ...and again
*"in New York City. [15]" - Ref placement
*"(NWA) as using the word in a positive context. [8]" - Placement
*Many refs need access dates
*"for which he was arrested in 1992. [36] The case eventually" - Placement
*"(voted by VH1 as one of the "50 Most Shocking Moments in Rock and Roll")" - Ref?
*Ref 38 needs formatting, as do 39 and 40
*"and she appeared in the video for the song. [41]" - Fix spacing, and ref's formatting
*"and that he would kill himself if she did not marry him. [43]" - Spacing
*"the suit was eventually settled out of court. [19]" - And again
*"The lawsuits were settled out of court. [43]" - Spacing
*"the ex-wife of fashion designer Tommy Hilfiger's brother,[47].[48]" - Remove full stop (.)
*"in which Stradlin allegedly harassed and assaulted Neil's wife, Sharise. [50]" - Spacing
*Ref 52 needs formatting...54 too, and 55
*""They totally mess things up and then they sit back and look at what they messed up and then try to figure out how they can fix it, whereas we mess things up and just dwell on it and make it even worse."" - Ref for quote
*Ref 58 needs publisher/author etc...
*"but on May 13, 2006" - wlink the date here
*"and that he had not made any of the statements attributed to him. [62]" - And again
*"The audio of this speech is often referred to as Axl's Blues as the rest of the band play a blues jam as he speaks. [68][69] [70]" - Ref spacing/placement
*"In addition, Bon Jovi keyboardist David Bryan publicly criticized Rose and his late arrivals at concerts in another 2006 interview. [73]" - Ref placement
Reviewed version: [4]
Good luck, — Dihydrogen Monoxide 03:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
OK...as far as I can see, everything's been addressed. The one point that hasn't been is the one about Stephanie Seymour, but I don't think there's ever been a clear answer as to why they broke up...they were together and then they were not and then they were in court, and not much was said publicly on either side. I'm going to leave this for a few more hours/day so I can look at it again one more time before leaving that note. :) DanielEng ( talk) 07:23, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Doesn't exist, I changed the genre back to Hard Rock in the info box. Also I removed Guitar=Slash from the infobox. This isn't the guns 'n roses artical and even if it was it would be outdated... MarthsBullet ( talk) 23:33, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Interesting, no mention of the popular (apparent rumour) that he chose the name Axl Rose because it was an anagram of Oral Sex.
Gemfyre ( talk) 15:16, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Axl Rose was trying to keep people from editing his Wikipage, that aint ganna happen, we got alot of dirt on you buddy and you are going to be exposed.
Keep this page unlocked —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.238.90.15 ( talk) 05:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Please provide evidence of what you say is true, that Axl Rose is trying to keep people from editing the page.-- Stripedtiger ( talk) 05:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Is anyone going to add anything on the Vancouver riots? Some guy lost the top half section of his teeth the cops went on a beating spree. http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1458577/20021108/guns_n_roses.jhtml -- 154.5.233.189 ( talk) 16:46, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
The cited source seems a bit ambiguous about his birth name: "I wasn't told I had a real father until I was seventeen. My real father was my stepdad, as far as I knew. But I found some insurance papers, and then I found my mom's diploma, with the last name Rose. So I was never born Bill Bailey. I was born William Rose. I am W. Rose because William was an asshole." It is hard to tell from this whether he didn't consider himself William Bailey or whether his birth certificate actually said "Rose". Anyone have a more definitive citation? - TheDaveRoss ( talk) 03:07, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
He clearly didn't like his abusive step dad right off the bat because Bailey was abusive towards him, his mom and his step brother and sister. Rose was wondering why Sharon, his mom, hasn't divorced Bailey long time ago. But when he found out that William Bruce Rose Sr. was his biological dad, he rebelled in earnest against his upbringing, including the strict religious education and he started having trouble with the law. Eventually, he left Indiana bitter against the Midwest and didn't want to have anything to do with either one of his parents, let alone his step dad. So he changed his name back to "Rose", but since he hated his biological father as well, he adopted "W." rather than "William". "AXL" is after one of his early bands, I was told. —Preceding unsigned comment added by William24Crawley ( talk • contribs) 18:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Is there any reference that Axl plays guitar? -- 190.43.189.218 ( talk) 02:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
A little piece of trivia that I think should be added. In the television series, Meerkat Manor, two Meerkats are named after him. One named Axel, the other Rose. Is this worthyu enough to be mentioned? Ledgo ( talk) 14:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A50sJU3UJVE Not only he is a baritone, but a bass-baritone. 189.83.113.119 ( talk) 19:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Axl Rose is a fuckin tenor.I'm a baritone and i high one i can say and i can't even reach some roses songs not because i'm not trained but because i was born like that.So don't write something because someone told it to show that he is not just the hard rock singer.Baritones can't sing high b's in full voice only a few can and those one's are ten times better vocalists than Axl Rose.
-- poppunk rocks ( talk) 12:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC) Guys please i don't want to cry.Axl Rose is a tenor 100%.My music teacher sings 30 years in opera and he can't sing high b notes.Axl Rose hits them with ease on full voice. -- poppunk rocks ( talk) 12:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)Αcording to the wikipedia article on baritones a baritone is capable of singing from low f to high g notes.Although this can be extended at either end only verdi baritones can hit those high b notes full voiced.So Axl Rose must be either a tenor or Verdi baritone and Verdi he is not.
-- 85.74.224.233 ( talk) 10:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)I said about the WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE.Is it wrong too?
Vocal classification, to the weak extent it can be applied to rock music, is about tessitura, not range. Just because Axl can hit tenor notes, doesn't mean that's his most comfortable voice to sing in. 77.101.46.138 ( talk) 12:16, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
I agree about Axl Rose being a "Tenor". It is more credible in my opinion that Axl is a tenor with a remarkable range, rather than a very very gifted Baritone. I'm not saying he isn't a skillful singer, but a Baritone singing that high for so many years?? Surely, some of you haven't heard of Robert Plant.
In the book "reckless roads" it is said, that before Axl started singing with his "trademark voice" his normal singing voice was baritone... he really has an incredible vocal range, and it can really be heard on the new album... on "Shackler's Revenge" he sings the verse in bass, and in "street of dreams" he sings a part of the song in falsetto... CHECK OUT THE VIDEO AT THE TOP-- Arneandre ( talk) 21:23, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
I find that pages about one or the other character tend to be pretty biased in favour of the character the article is about. I.e. in an article about Pamela Anderson, her divorce from Tommy Lee is depicted as a result of "gross abuse" and the one about Tommy Lee is the other way around -- and I saw it again in this article when it comes to Rose's feud with Vince Neil. Maybe something could be done to straighten this problem out? I know this is a minor talk page to cite such a great problem in; but we've got to start somewhere! -After all, being biased isn't exactly very encyclopedic... Nizingur ( talk) 17:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)Nizingur
Considering the controversy of the song "One in a million," shouldn't Axl's attack on immigrants who "come to our country" and "spread some f**kin disease" etc. be included? 75.7.28.219 ( talk) 17:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
the article said that he was part of LA buns, but he was actually the frontman for Hollywood Rose, which merged with LA buns, didnt it? cuz then tracii buns left? some help here would be appreciated. (info from slashs book) 99.251.217.54 ( talk) 22:37, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
He's a tenor.-- 141.209.214.34 ( talk) 05:39, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
I was just reading the article when I remembered something I've heard years ago. This being the fact that 'Axl Rose' is an anagram of 'Oral Sex'. I highly doubt that this was intentional, but it is fun to point out. I also highly doubt that it would be article worthy, as it could be seen as mean or unnecessary. What I am wondering however is this: "If the name was intentional, and somehow, somebody got a reference that it was true, would it be notable to mention on the article." Now, I haven't read the whole article myself, so I don't know if it might be hinted somewhere there already. All in all, I just want to find an answer to this: "If a reference were found, and held true, that a certain aspect of a person or place were somehow negative, would it be Wikipedia worthy?" I think that, no, it shouldn't be, but I know others who may think the other way. I'm not trying to settle some form of dispute here, as there is none. I merely wish to find the answer from other Wikipedians. Any comment or view would be greatly appreciated.
-Peace Out!-
mÆniac Ask! 22:37, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Interesting - even when citing a source you can't rely on people who edit these pages. When discussing the Montreal riot after the GNR concert it says that Axl left the stage after 50 minutes and then cites a source - the source says he left after 15 minutes. Incidentally, despite the quote - no refunds were offered to fans.
Hello, in the paragraph below, it should read that the release date for the album is the Sunday prior to Thanksgiving Day, if, in fact, the release date is November 23, 2008.
On October 22, 2008, a new release date was officially announced for Chinese Democracy: November 23, 2008 (the Sunday after Thanksgiving Day). The album will be exclusively released through North America's largest chain of electronics stores, Best Buy. [1]
Thanks.
Smithtodda ( talk) 21:16, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Didn't Axl state that he wnated to get the AFD lineup back together on december 4th? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.198.113.60 ( talk) 01:50, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Actually, he denied that on december 13th Casino321 ( talk) 17:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Is it true that Axl Rose has been missing for over a month? If so, it would be worth mentioning in the article, and adding him to Category:Disappeared People Zazaban ( talk) 03:50, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
According to his new interview with Billboard, Axl pretty much says the Grim Reaper will have to collect either him or Slash first before there's any reunion between the two. -- Crackthewhip775 ( talk) 03:37, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I don't know if anyone cares enough, but... My mother-in-law is Steve Bailey's sister (Axl Roses' Aunt), she said that half of the bio. info is terribly inaccurate. She mentioned specifically that Bill never sang at their church. You should take everything Bill says with a grain of salt, he has never been known for his great honesty. Just for the record :-P On a totally separate note, by wife and I have some excellent personal photos from his childhood and also later if they could be of any use, not sure. Like old school photos and junk. Or if someone wants to buy them, they are certainly for sale. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.45.203 ( talk) 07:16, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Great idea man, if your telling the truth, that is. Mcjm4796 ( talk) 16:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
When you talk of Rose, you can not leave out the influences of one Andrew Gallagher. On a vacation to the greater Chicago area in the mid 70s, young William befriended Andrew. Andrew, a renown whistler from the now defunked Gallagher/Hodges SnapWhistle duo, taught William these skills. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.197.19.244 ( talk) 23:12, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
It says that axl believed his father was a genoan gigolo. I looked that up at the source and it was true. In an interview he said he believed his father was a genoan gigolo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.102.123 ( talk) 11:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
that picture just doesnt say "Axl" to me :( i think we should change it to the once used in the booklet for Chinese Democracy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocknroll47 ( talk • contribs) 00:24, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Just noticed that the article as it was contradicted itself on the matter of Axl's birth name. The header paragraph claimed he was born William Bruce Bailey Jr. (the Jr. part didn't even make sense because his step-father was Stephen Bailey, not William) but the first paragraph of the Biography section states that he was born William Bruce Rose. To my knowledge the 2nd version is correct, and the article linked to as a reference in the header actually seems to substantiate this, so I've edited the first paragraph to hopefully clarify the situation, however I'm not entirely sure of the clarity of the wording so if anyone would like to clean it up a little it would be appreciated. Danikat ( talk) 18:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
It makes no sence that it says in the article that Axl was born with the last-name from a man his mother meets 2 years after axls birth... someone please correct this... thank you...
Please sign your posts, and can anyone read the next section please. Mcjm4796 ( talk) 16:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm wondering if someone can censor the swear words in the quotes on this page and in other Guns 'N' Roses articles, not get rid of them, just diguise them, with these..... *********.... could you do that please, I'm sure it will make many people happy, you don't have to, I just think it would be nice if the swear words were covered up. Mcjm4796 ( talk) 16:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
If you believe a quote has been added for no other reason than to add swear words to the article then you could replace it with an alternative that says the same thing but doesn't include swearing. But if you're thinking of anything in the section on One In A Million then you're probably out of luck. Trying to explain the controversy caused by that song without using the words in question would be almost impossible and almost certinally get reverted because it'd actually lead to a less informative article. Danikat ( talk) 17:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
It says that Rose (in the intro) wants to destroy GNR while furthering his solo career. sounds pretty POV to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.220.125.86 ( talk) 05:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
We need a new one as the as the previous was deleted from commons. The Infobox is looking very plain at the moment. Jeffrey Mall ( talk • contribs) - 21:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
i found this http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vaqCjVyoA_c/SzE-z8iF4AI/AAAAAAAADIs/Os7OgMsUHLw/s400/awdc9h.jpg i would put it in but sadly i don't know how. can someone do it for me? Rocknroll47 ( talk) 18:49, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
His name is W. Axl Rose, he had it legally changed, stop changing it back to William Bruce Rose better known by his stage name Axl Rose. "Rose legally changed his name to "W. Axl Rose" in 1986" - Taken from the article, now stop changing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.58.57.10 ( talk) 20:59, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
What's with the Bruce thing anyway? I was a huge GNR fan first time around and I can't recall "Bruce" ever being part of any of his names? It's currently in the article but as I don't actually know I'm not going to change it. Jules ( talk) 15:06, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Various people wittering on above about why the "oral sex" anagram shouldn't be mentioned, but very clearly it should. Why? Well, many people are under the impression that the anagram was deliberate, and influenced his choice of name. If there is no evidence that it was deliberate, and it is believed by those who know about these things to have been accidental, then this needs to be explicitly mentioned. At the moment, far from learning anything informative on this topic, one is simply left wondering why the issue isn't mentioned. Is it an oversight? Was it improperly censored? 86.140.131.117 ( talk) 12:58, 7 February 2010 (UTC).
Something should be added about Axl's hair loss. He got a bad hair transplant that basically turned his head into a mass of scars and skin. So now he wears a cheap-looking toupe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gyro When ( talk • contribs) 11:37, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
"Following this, in a surprising move, Rose performed "November Rain" with Elton John"... surprising whom? If it's related to the previous sentence (which I think it is), then this should be worded slightly differently. – Kerαunoςcopia◁ galaxies 09:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
as this was negative unsourced material on a living person bio. Such material must be sourced from verifiable information from a reliable 3rd party source with a reputation for fact checking. Dloh cierekim 13:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
For such a detailed article, on a musical legend, I think it is very important that a main picture for the article is added. I am unsure as to how you make a picture viable for upload on Wikipedia due to the copyright rules etc. Could someone please do this? Dylan ( talk) 17:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Sure, here are a couple of ideas.
For more information take a look at WP:Images. Cheers, Shearonink ( talk) 18:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
The riot was actually July 22, 1991, at an outdoor venue (not an arena) near (not in) St. Louis. Can't edit since this is locked.
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=59
Bbison ( talk) 22:11, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Been on the album pages in order to list his credit as it was on the records - at least on the records I've got - which was 'W. Axl Rose' and not merely 'Axl Rose'. IMO the title for this page should also be 'W. Axl Rose' with 'Axl Rose' redirecting here, since that is his full name by deed poll. I know he's referred to in the media simply as 'Axl Rose' but 'W. Axl Rose' is his full correct name and thus should be put on here. However as the page is semi-protected I cannot do this. 94.194.13.221 ( talk) 13:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't even have a band, but I am sure my band is better than yours. Especially since you dumped Stevey. Yes I am attempting to create a fued with Axl. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.102.20.3 ( talk) 00:59, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
This article is oddly structured. First, the main section is titled "Biography", but then there's also a separate "Personal life" section—how is that not a part of his biography?
Second, the "Controversy" section gives undue weight to negative aspects of his life and career. It also creates an imbalanced view, since the preceding "Biography" section is now all-positive, with all the negative content having been extracted and placed in its own section. It also ruins the chronology of events (but maybe that's my personal hang-up).
I propose merging the content of "Controversy" into "Biography". His drug use (or lack thereof) in no way requires its own section and should be integrated into "Personal life". "Events surrounding Chinese Democracy" should be integrated into the section that actually discusses the release of ChiDem, "Hiatus, touring, and Chinese Democracy (1995–present)". With a little work, "'One in a Million'" and "Riots, rants, and legal troubles" can be seamlessly integrated into "Success with Guns N' Roses (1985–1994)". Please voice your objections to my proposal. If I don't hear any, I'll get started on the change in a couple of days.
Cheers, Prayer for the wild at heart ( talk) 11:54, 1 June 2011 (UTC).
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Why does it say Axl Rose was born an idiot and mention he's an idiot more than once in this Wikipedia entry?
Tazthepom ( talk) 16:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Axl Rose is clearly credited for playing guitar on the song "Dead Horse." I placed it under the instruments tab. Also, in 'Slash,' by Slash, he states that the orchestra in 'November Rain' and the trumpets and other effects in 'Live and Let Die,' were all synthesizers, played by Axl Rose. This is an electronic instrument, and I added it. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Runswithpotatos ( talk • contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 11:05, 12 July 2009
I'm gonna feel extremely stupid if this is actually false, but, is this a reliable source? http://msnbc.website/axl-rose-found-dead-hollywood-home.html -- Matt723star ( talk) 07:31, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
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I see that Here Today Gone To Hell has been used as a source for history of W. Axl Rose in GNR and so I have edited the page myself with the information I have from 'Classic Rock, July 2007, Issue 107' which is a more valid source of information on the early days of GNR and not a personal website. If there are any problems please inform me. Renegade MUFC 16:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
"Best known"??? What the hell else is he noteworthy for?
This article needs a complete re-work. I have removed a ton of claims from the article that have no sources. Before anyone attempts a rewrite I would suggest that you take a look at Wikipedia's guidelines for writing a biography of living persons at WP:BIO. Unsourced negative information must be removed IMMEDIATELY. We cannot use blogs and personal websites as sources for such information. You must use reliable secondary sources to make these claims. Vivaldi ( talk) 11:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
This article seems to be stripped of a whole lot of information. Nothing on his relationships, some of his feuds, Erins miscarrage, and other notable things. Its only about early life, Look at You Game Girl, and Chinese Democracy.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.223.107.220 ( talk) 18:30, 22 March 2007
Trivia section is relevent, and should remain.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pro-trivia ( talk • contribs) 22:45, 24 March 2007.
On Wikipedia we use the name that a person is most notable under. In nearly every source that refers to Axl Rose in the media he is referred to as Axl Rose and not "W. Axl Rose". We don't put "Tom Cruise" under "Thomas Mapother" or even "Thomas Cruise", because neither of those names are what he is best known by. I don't mind if you want to mention that Axl Rose's full legal name is "W. Axl Rose", but you'll need to provide a reliable source to make that claim in the article. The first sentence should discuss "Axl Rose", the name he is notable for, and not "W. Axl Rose", which nobody ever calls him in popular culture or otherwise. Vivaldi ( talk) 21:23, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, that's true. And he did change is name to Axl Rose so it is his official name. Course, the W. stands for something but either way, your right, we should reference him as Axl Rose as just Rose. Not everything has to be so formal. And also, why is there a picture of him from 2006? Why not one from 1985, when the band was founded? MaulYoda 00:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
All i think is that the article should BEGIN with W. Axl Rose not be called that or call him that all the way through the article because he is more commonly known as 'Axl Rose'. His name has never been 'Axl Rose'. In 1985, he changed his name to 'W. Axl Rose' the 'W' is not an abbreviation. Bucketheader 09:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't know anything about America or it's court documents. Can they be easily found on the internet? Bucketheader 16:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
after reading the imdb source, if you want to mention his credits, it's probably correct to say he is 'most often' credited as w axl rose. looking at the ref, this would be true. the_undertow talk 01:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Am I the only person to realise that "Axl Rose" is an anagram of "Oral Sex"? Arkyopterix 14:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC) I tried to add it, but they took it off.
No. Bucketheader 14:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
There is no need for a third opinion as there is a reliable source which states his correct name. Maurauth, thanks for your edits, but they are incorrect; his name has never been 'Axl Rose'; he was born 'William Rose', grew up as 'William Bailey' and then changed his name to 'W. Axl Rose'. The 'W.' is not an abbreviation, he chose that because he didn't want to share a name with his father and 'Axl' comes from a pre-Guns N' Roses band he was in called 'A.X.L', please understand this and not start an "edit war" like your, and mine, previous edits have created. This is a well-known fact and there is a source in the article for this. Bucketheader 13:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, but they won't reference his name as 'Axl Rose', they'll just refer to him as that. You see, anyone who knows anything about Rose, or GN'R, or even rock music for that matter, knows what his name is. Bucketheader 22:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Well I'll admit I don't know much about the guy, but I know a HELL of a lot about rock music, infact that's one of the things in my life that I know the most about. How can you tell the difference betwen referencing and refering... Maurauth 22:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Lojah 22:43, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Is there something wrong with my computer, or is there no colour in the infobox when it's supposed to be yellow. 75pickup ( talk · contribs) 17:11, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I deleted the section about Steven Adler's "rivalry" with Axl. There really seems to be no real source for it other than Adler himself (who is not known for being credible), it's all speculation and really seems to be little more than high school type gossip. DanielEng 09:00, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
I've gone through the article--with the exception of the FEUDS section--and tried to make sure every single point is researched and references. There were a lot of outright inaccuracies in the old article (for instance the section which stated GnR was "brought to LA in 1987"...they were from LA!) and a lot of things that could have been elaborated on.
I haven't deleted much, I've reorganized. Some points:
1. Trivia has been incorporated into the article as much as possible. The only two things I couldn't find a place for were the Estranged and Venezuelan coup things. 2. The band history and Chinese Democracy stuff seemed to just rehash what is already in the Guns N' Roses article, so I thought perhaps it'd be better to direct people there and leave this article to Axl himself.
If there's a problem with the edit, please don't kill me, just let me know. I really tried my best to make this as comprehensive, accurate and NPOV as possible. DanielEng 06:49, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
One quick question. Why are there two citations for the very first word of the article? -Icewedge 05:57, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Here's a source for Dan McCafferty's quote. [3] I'd add it myself, but I don't know how to format refs properly. Funeral 16:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
The word "shit" appears 3 times and the word "fuck" appears several times in the article. I know that when quoting someone, you are supposed to quote him completely and percisely, but can't these words edited to more appropiate words? There is another way of saying "stay the fuck out of the shit....", even if it's not the exact words used by the man quoted. YemeniteCamel 14:24, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Please leave a note on my talk page when you're done with this stuff - cheers, — Dihydrogen Monoxide 03:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
*Refs 1 and 2 need full {{
cite web}} style formatting
*"participating school chorus and studying piano" - Need an "in" before "school"
*"Axl publicly stated that he was sexually abused by his biological father. [3][3][5]" - Refer to him as "Rose", not "Axl". Also you don't need to repeat ref #3. And, there shouldn't be a space between the full stop and the ref.
*"Axl's mother remarried when he was a small child." - Again, Rose not Axl
*"Rose as a habitual criminal in his late teenage years. [8]When he was 17" - There should be a space after the ref and not before it
*"Once in Los Angeles, Rose began performing with various local bands, including Rapidfire[16], Rose, L.A. Guns[17] and Hollywood Rose." - Put all the refs at the end of the sentence
*"for the reported wages of $8/hour. [15]" - Ref placement
*"In various reports in the press, he was referred to as the "Howard Hughes of rock" [20] and "rock's greatest recluse." [19]" - Moves ref to end of sentence, ensure no space between full stop and refs.
*Ref 24 needs proper formatting
*"$6,000 in fines and was released and the Summer European tour continued as scheduled. [27]" - ...and again
*"in New York City. [15]" - Ref placement
*"(NWA) as using the word in a positive context. [8]" - Placement
*Many refs need access dates
*"for which he was arrested in 1992. [36] The case eventually" - Placement
*"(voted by VH1 as one of the "50 Most Shocking Moments in Rock and Roll")" - Ref?
*Ref 38 needs formatting, as do 39 and 40
*"and she appeared in the video for the song. [41]" - Fix spacing, and ref's formatting
*"and that he would kill himself if she did not marry him. [43]" - Spacing
*"the suit was eventually settled out of court. [19]" - And again
*"The lawsuits were settled out of court. [43]" - Spacing
*"the ex-wife of fashion designer Tommy Hilfiger's brother,[47].[48]" - Remove full stop (.)
*"in which Stradlin allegedly harassed and assaulted Neil's wife, Sharise. [50]" - Spacing
*Ref 52 needs formatting...54 too, and 55
*""They totally mess things up and then they sit back and look at what they messed up and then try to figure out how they can fix it, whereas we mess things up and just dwell on it and make it even worse."" - Ref for quote
*Ref 58 needs publisher/author etc...
*"but on May 13, 2006" - wlink the date here
*"and that he had not made any of the statements attributed to him. [62]" - And again
*"The audio of this speech is often referred to as Axl's Blues as the rest of the band play a blues jam as he speaks. [68][69] [70]" - Ref spacing/placement
*"In addition, Bon Jovi keyboardist David Bryan publicly criticized Rose and his late arrivals at concerts in another 2006 interview. [73]" - Ref placement
Reviewed version: [4]
Good luck, — Dihydrogen Monoxide 03:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
OK...as far as I can see, everything's been addressed. The one point that hasn't been is the one about Stephanie Seymour, but I don't think there's ever been a clear answer as to why they broke up...they were together and then they were not and then they were in court, and not much was said publicly on either side. I'm going to leave this for a few more hours/day so I can look at it again one more time before leaving that note. :) DanielEng ( talk) 07:23, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Doesn't exist, I changed the genre back to Hard Rock in the info box. Also I removed Guitar=Slash from the infobox. This isn't the guns 'n roses artical and even if it was it would be outdated... MarthsBullet ( talk) 23:33, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Interesting, no mention of the popular (apparent rumour) that he chose the name Axl Rose because it was an anagram of Oral Sex.
Gemfyre ( talk) 15:16, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Axl Rose was trying to keep people from editing his Wikipage, that aint ganna happen, we got alot of dirt on you buddy and you are going to be exposed.
Keep this page unlocked —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.238.90.15 ( talk) 05:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Please provide evidence of what you say is true, that Axl Rose is trying to keep people from editing the page.-- Stripedtiger ( talk) 05:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Is anyone going to add anything on the Vancouver riots? Some guy lost the top half section of his teeth the cops went on a beating spree. http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1458577/20021108/guns_n_roses.jhtml -- 154.5.233.189 ( talk) 16:46, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
The cited source seems a bit ambiguous about his birth name: "I wasn't told I had a real father until I was seventeen. My real father was my stepdad, as far as I knew. But I found some insurance papers, and then I found my mom's diploma, with the last name Rose. So I was never born Bill Bailey. I was born William Rose. I am W. Rose because William was an asshole." It is hard to tell from this whether he didn't consider himself William Bailey or whether his birth certificate actually said "Rose". Anyone have a more definitive citation? - TheDaveRoss ( talk) 03:07, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
He clearly didn't like his abusive step dad right off the bat because Bailey was abusive towards him, his mom and his step brother and sister. Rose was wondering why Sharon, his mom, hasn't divorced Bailey long time ago. But when he found out that William Bruce Rose Sr. was his biological dad, he rebelled in earnest against his upbringing, including the strict religious education and he started having trouble with the law. Eventually, he left Indiana bitter against the Midwest and didn't want to have anything to do with either one of his parents, let alone his step dad. So he changed his name back to "Rose", but since he hated his biological father as well, he adopted "W." rather than "William". "AXL" is after one of his early bands, I was told. —Preceding unsigned comment added by William24Crawley ( talk • contribs) 18:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Is there any reference that Axl plays guitar? -- 190.43.189.218 ( talk) 02:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
A little piece of trivia that I think should be added. In the television series, Meerkat Manor, two Meerkats are named after him. One named Axel, the other Rose. Is this worthyu enough to be mentioned? Ledgo ( talk) 14:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A50sJU3UJVE Not only he is a baritone, but a bass-baritone. 189.83.113.119 ( talk) 19:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Axl Rose is a fuckin tenor.I'm a baritone and i high one i can say and i can't even reach some roses songs not because i'm not trained but because i was born like that.So don't write something because someone told it to show that he is not just the hard rock singer.Baritones can't sing high b's in full voice only a few can and those one's are ten times better vocalists than Axl Rose.
-- poppunk rocks ( talk) 12:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC) Guys please i don't want to cry.Axl Rose is a tenor 100%.My music teacher sings 30 years in opera and he can't sing high b notes.Axl Rose hits them with ease on full voice. -- poppunk rocks ( talk) 12:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)Αcording to the wikipedia article on baritones a baritone is capable of singing from low f to high g notes.Although this can be extended at either end only verdi baritones can hit those high b notes full voiced.So Axl Rose must be either a tenor or Verdi baritone and Verdi he is not.
-- 85.74.224.233 ( talk) 10:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)I said about the WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE.Is it wrong too?
Vocal classification, to the weak extent it can be applied to rock music, is about tessitura, not range. Just because Axl can hit tenor notes, doesn't mean that's his most comfortable voice to sing in. 77.101.46.138 ( talk) 12:16, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
I agree about Axl Rose being a "Tenor". It is more credible in my opinion that Axl is a tenor with a remarkable range, rather than a very very gifted Baritone. I'm not saying he isn't a skillful singer, but a Baritone singing that high for so many years?? Surely, some of you haven't heard of Robert Plant.
In the book "reckless roads" it is said, that before Axl started singing with his "trademark voice" his normal singing voice was baritone... he really has an incredible vocal range, and it can really be heard on the new album... on "Shackler's Revenge" he sings the verse in bass, and in "street of dreams" he sings a part of the song in falsetto... CHECK OUT THE VIDEO AT THE TOP-- Arneandre ( talk) 21:23, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
I find that pages about one or the other character tend to be pretty biased in favour of the character the article is about. I.e. in an article about Pamela Anderson, her divorce from Tommy Lee is depicted as a result of "gross abuse" and the one about Tommy Lee is the other way around -- and I saw it again in this article when it comes to Rose's feud with Vince Neil. Maybe something could be done to straighten this problem out? I know this is a minor talk page to cite such a great problem in; but we've got to start somewhere! -After all, being biased isn't exactly very encyclopedic... Nizingur ( talk) 17:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)Nizingur
Considering the controversy of the song "One in a million," shouldn't Axl's attack on immigrants who "come to our country" and "spread some f**kin disease" etc. be included? 75.7.28.219 ( talk) 17:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
the article said that he was part of LA buns, but he was actually the frontman for Hollywood Rose, which merged with LA buns, didnt it? cuz then tracii buns left? some help here would be appreciated. (info from slashs book) 99.251.217.54 ( talk) 22:37, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
He's a tenor.-- 141.209.214.34 ( talk) 05:39, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
I was just reading the article when I remembered something I've heard years ago. This being the fact that 'Axl Rose' is an anagram of 'Oral Sex'. I highly doubt that this was intentional, but it is fun to point out. I also highly doubt that it would be article worthy, as it could be seen as mean or unnecessary. What I am wondering however is this: "If the name was intentional, and somehow, somebody got a reference that it was true, would it be notable to mention on the article." Now, I haven't read the whole article myself, so I don't know if it might be hinted somewhere there already. All in all, I just want to find an answer to this: "If a reference were found, and held true, that a certain aspect of a person or place were somehow negative, would it be Wikipedia worthy?" I think that, no, it shouldn't be, but I know others who may think the other way. I'm not trying to settle some form of dispute here, as there is none. I merely wish to find the answer from other Wikipedians. Any comment or view would be greatly appreciated.
-Peace Out!-
mÆniac Ask! 22:37, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Interesting - even when citing a source you can't rely on people who edit these pages. When discussing the Montreal riot after the GNR concert it says that Axl left the stage after 50 minutes and then cites a source - the source says he left after 15 minutes. Incidentally, despite the quote - no refunds were offered to fans.
Hello, in the paragraph below, it should read that the release date for the album is the Sunday prior to Thanksgiving Day, if, in fact, the release date is November 23, 2008.
On October 22, 2008, a new release date was officially announced for Chinese Democracy: November 23, 2008 (the Sunday after Thanksgiving Day). The album will be exclusively released through North America's largest chain of electronics stores, Best Buy. [1]
Thanks.
Smithtodda ( talk) 21:16, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Didn't Axl state that he wnated to get the AFD lineup back together on december 4th? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.198.113.60 ( talk) 01:50, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Actually, he denied that on december 13th Casino321 ( talk) 17:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Is it true that Axl Rose has been missing for over a month? If so, it would be worth mentioning in the article, and adding him to Category:Disappeared People Zazaban ( talk) 03:50, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
According to his new interview with Billboard, Axl pretty much says the Grim Reaper will have to collect either him or Slash first before there's any reunion between the two. -- Crackthewhip775 ( talk) 03:37, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I don't know if anyone cares enough, but... My mother-in-law is Steve Bailey's sister (Axl Roses' Aunt), she said that half of the bio. info is terribly inaccurate. She mentioned specifically that Bill never sang at their church. You should take everything Bill says with a grain of salt, he has never been known for his great honesty. Just for the record :-P On a totally separate note, by wife and I have some excellent personal photos from his childhood and also later if they could be of any use, not sure. Like old school photos and junk. Or if someone wants to buy them, they are certainly for sale. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.45.203 ( talk) 07:16, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Great idea man, if your telling the truth, that is. Mcjm4796 ( talk) 16:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
When you talk of Rose, you can not leave out the influences of one Andrew Gallagher. On a vacation to the greater Chicago area in the mid 70s, young William befriended Andrew. Andrew, a renown whistler from the now defunked Gallagher/Hodges SnapWhistle duo, taught William these skills. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.197.19.244 ( talk) 23:12, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
It says that axl believed his father was a genoan gigolo. I looked that up at the source and it was true. In an interview he said he believed his father was a genoan gigolo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.102.123 ( talk) 11:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
that picture just doesnt say "Axl" to me :( i think we should change it to the once used in the booklet for Chinese Democracy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocknroll47 ( talk • contribs) 00:24, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Just noticed that the article as it was contradicted itself on the matter of Axl's birth name. The header paragraph claimed he was born William Bruce Bailey Jr. (the Jr. part didn't even make sense because his step-father was Stephen Bailey, not William) but the first paragraph of the Biography section states that he was born William Bruce Rose. To my knowledge the 2nd version is correct, and the article linked to as a reference in the header actually seems to substantiate this, so I've edited the first paragraph to hopefully clarify the situation, however I'm not entirely sure of the clarity of the wording so if anyone would like to clean it up a little it would be appreciated. Danikat ( talk) 18:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
It makes no sence that it says in the article that Axl was born with the last-name from a man his mother meets 2 years after axls birth... someone please correct this... thank you...
Please sign your posts, and can anyone read the next section please. Mcjm4796 ( talk) 16:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm wondering if someone can censor the swear words in the quotes on this page and in other Guns 'N' Roses articles, not get rid of them, just diguise them, with these..... *********.... could you do that please, I'm sure it will make many people happy, you don't have to, I just think it would be nice if the swear words were covered up. Mcjm4796 ( talk) 16:19, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
If you believe a quote has been added for no other reason than to add swear words to the article then you could replace it with an alternative that says the same thing but doesn't include swearing. But if you're thinking of anything in the section on One In A Million then you're probably out of luck. Trying to explain the controversy caused by that song without using the words in question would be almost impossible and almost certinally get reverted because it'd actually lead to a less informative article. Danikat ( talk) 17:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
It says that Rose (in the intro) wants to destroy GNR while furthering his solo career. sounds pretty POV to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.220.125.86 ( talk) 05:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
We need a new one as the as the previous was deleted from commons. The Infobox is looking very plain at the moment. Jeffrey Mall ( talk • contribs) - 21:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
i found this http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vaqCjVyoA_c/SzE-z8iF4AI/AAAAAAAADIs/Os7OgMsUHLw/s400/awdc9h.jpg i would put it in but sadly i don't know how. can someone do it for me? Rocknroll47 ( talk) 18:49, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
His name is W. Axl Rose, he had it legally changed, stop changing it back to William Bruce Rose better known by his stage name Axl Rose. "Rose legally changed his name to "W. Axl Rose" in 1986" - Taken from the article, now stop changing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.58.57.10 ( talk) 20:59, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
What's with the Bruce thing anyway? I was a huge GNR fan first time around and I can't recall "Bruce" ever being part of any of his names? It's currently in the article but as I don't actually know I'm not going to change it. Jules ( talk) 15:06, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Various people wittering on above about why the "oral sex" anagram shouldn't be mentioned, but very clearly it should. Why? Well, many people are under the impression that the anagram was deliberate, and influenced his choice of name. If there is no evidence that it was deliberate, and it is believed by those who know about these things to have been accidental, then this needs to be explicitly mentioned. At the moment, far from learning anything informative on this topic, one is simply left wondering why the issue isn't mentioned. Is it an oversight? Was it improperly censored? 86.140.131.117 ( talk) 12:58, 7 February 2010 (UTC).
Something should be added about Axl's hair loss. He got a bad hair transplant that basically turned his head into a mass of scars and skin. So now he wears a cheap-looking toupe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gyro When ( talk • contribs) 11:37, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
"Following this, in a surprising move, Rose performed "November Rain" with Elton John"... surprising whom? If it's related to the previous sentence (which I think it is), then this should be worded slightly differently. – Kerαunoςcopia◁ galaxies 09:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
as this was negative unsourced material on a living person bio. Such material must be sourced from verifiable information from a reliable 3rd party source with a reputation for fact checking. Dloh cierekim 13:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
For such a detailed article, on a musical legend, I think it is very important that a main picture for the article is added. I am unsure as to how you make a picture viable for upload on Wikipedia due to the copyright rules etc. Could someone please do this? Dylan ( talk) 17:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Sure, here are a couple of ideas.
For more information take a look at WP:Images. Cheers, Shearonink ( talk) 18:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
The riot was actually July 22, 1991, at an outdoor venue (not an arena) near (not in) St. Louis. Can't edit since this is locked.
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=59
Bbison ( talk) 22:11, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Been on the album pages in order to list his credit as it was on the records - at least on the records I've got - which was 'W. Axl Rose' and not merely 'Axl Rose'. IMO the title for this page should also be 'W. Axl Rose' with 'Axl Rose' redirecting here, since that is his full name by deed poll. I know he's referred to in the media simply as 'Axl Rose' but 'W. Axl Rose' is his full correct name and thus should be put on here. However as the page is semi-protected I cannot do this. 94.194.13.221 ( talk) 13:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't even have a band, but I am sure my band is better than yours. Especially since you dumped Stevey. Yes I am attempting to create a fued with Axl. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.102.20.3 ( talk) 00:59, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
This article is oddly structured. First, the main section is titled "Biography", but then there's also a separate "Personal life" section—how is that not a part of his biography?
Second, the "Controversy" section gives undue weight to negative aspects of his life and career. It also creates an imbalanced view, since the preceding "Biography" section is now all-positive, with all the negative content having been extracted and placed in its own section. It also ruins the chronology of events (but maybe that's my personal hang-up).
I propose merging the content of "Controversy" into "Biography". His drug use (or lack thereof) in no way requires its own section and should be integrated into "Personal life". "Events surrounding Chinese Democracy" should be integrated into the section that actually discusses the release of ChiDem, "Hiatus, touring, and Chinese Democracy (1995–present)". With a little work, "'One in a Million'" and "Riots, rants, and legal troubles" can be seamlessly integrated into "Success with Guns N' Roses (1985–1994)". Please voice your objections to my proposal. If I don't hear any, I'll get started on the change in a couple of days.
Cheers, Prayer for the wild at heart ( talk) 11:54, 1 June 2011 (UTC).
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Why does it say Axl Rose was born an idiot and mention he's an idiot more than once in this Wikipedia entry?
Tazthepom ( talk) 16:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Axl Rose is clearly credited for playing guitar on the song "Dead Horse." I placed it under the instruments tab. Also, in 'Slash,' by Slash, he states that the orchestra in 'November Rain' and the trumpets and other effects in 'Live and Let Die,' were all synthesizers, played by Axl Rose. This is an electronic instrument, and I added it. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Runswithpotatos ( talk • contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 11:05, 12 July 2009
I'm gonna feel extremely stupid if this is actually false, but, is this a reliable source? http://msnbc.website/axl-rose-found-dead-hollywood-home.html -- Matt723star ( talk) 07:31, 3 December 2014 (UTC)