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I don't see how it's unconstitutional. Only Catholics are gonna live there, and if you don't like the rules, don't live there. The Republican 02:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I can access the talk page and the history but not the actual article. Does someone know the reason for that? -- 129.13.186.1 14:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Greetings editors,
The following is a link that I wish to add to this article about the new Ave Maria, FL community. It is a page created to promote the town of Ave Maria created by a Catholic alumnus of another Catholic University having similar commonalities. This page gives information about the new town, its founder, links to the Ave Maria University and the new Private K 1-12 Grammar and Preparatory school that will soon be in operation there along with the university. It also provides information and services for purchasing a home in the new town.
www.LiveinAveMaria.com
Sincerely,
Jamesbohrer 01:28, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
James Bohrer LiveinAve.com
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 16:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
It would probably be helpful to have the zip code listed... The.helping.people.tick ( talk) 05:41, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Much of the information, including the location image, the coordinates, and the dates are correct for the city of Naples, FL. I will be clearing such information.-- Abusing ( talk) 19:05, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
This article should not be listed under "Christian communities". It should be listed under "cults". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.147.95 ( talk) 02:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Binksternet has deleted links claiming that doing so is required to comply with the following policies, but the two links in question do not violate these policies:
In this case, the commercial developer's link is appropriate for the same reasons the link to AveHerald.com and AveMariaLiving.com/dozens-of-ave-maria-links are appropriate, but the developer is NOT a governmental entity and does not control the town, which is far more broadly defined than the commercial developer (the town has thousands of residents and a thousand more people who work in town or study at the university), so the developer's website is NOT official and would not comply with the narrow rules Binksternet would like to impose for external links in this article.
It seems the policies more on point are:
These policies together anticipate as appropriate the links to the town's e-newspaper (AveHerald.com) and a site of over 100 links related to the town (AveMariaLiving.com) and the commercial developer (AveMaria.com), all of which provide a service to the town, to visitors and to those wishing to learn about the town. 74.5.191.140 ( talk) 06:40, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Text added with web addresses cited as references (rather than as links) as you suggested. Also, the adjective "controversial" was removed because this article is about the town, not about any controversies. All public figures become involved in controversies, and the primary place to write about them is in the wikipedia article about that person. 69.138.131.88 ( talk) 22:14, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm wondering what the form of government is here? Why is this labelled by Wikipedia as a "Catholic Community" but the article says it's a planned college town? I've heard some disturbing things about this town including the foibles of the "owners" (?) and his beliefs, lawsuits regarding relocation of employees, etc. I'm willing to work on it a bit, but a little confused why no info appears here already as what is being said is quite controversial. al ( talk) 00:47, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
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Shouldn't there be a section on controversies? After all, the whole concept of this town (given this is a real town and not some fenced in private property of a cult) violates several parts of the US constitution (mainly free speech and religious freedom). And lets be honest, how would America react if there was a similar community of muslim faith? 60.40.183.246 ( talk) 15:20, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
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The Lfassbender edit in the commerce section removing the mention of the Ave Herald and expanding the description of Ave Maria Neighbours seems fine to me--it looks like the Herald is no longer a going concern, as of 2017. [1] The issue is that the current references point to the Herald and to 'Ave Maria Living', a previous incarnation of Neighbours--those references should probably be updated or removed.
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I removed the word controversial as a qualifier to Tom Monaghan in the opening section. My change was reverted so I am starting a discussion here.
Adolph Hitler, Obama, Trump and the KKK are not listed as "controversial" on Wikipedia and yet somehow Tom Monaghan is? This is a subjective classification that adds no factual value and does not belong as a modifier in the article. Further - based on a quick search of other Wiki entries, there are no other times that I could find where Tom Monaghan is qualified as controversial. Bigdig23 ( talk) 17:47, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
I am planning on removing the routine coverage warning since significant edits have happened over the last month. Posting here in case there are differing views. Bigdig23 ( talk) 18:38, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
The Florida Panther article has this which seems like something obvious to include in the ecology section --
Southern Florida is a fast-developing area, and many developments such as Ave Maria near Naples, have become extremely controversial for their location in prime panther habitat, and for the roads surrounding them that kill panthers at an ever increasing rate. 57.135.233.22 ( talk) 00:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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I don't see how it's unconstitutional. Only Catholics are gonna live there, and if you don't like the rules, don't live there. The Republican 02:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I can access the talk page and the history but not the actual article. Does someone know the reason for that? -- 129.13.186.1 14:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Greetings editors,
The following is a link that I wish to add to this article about the new Ave Maria, FL community. It is a page created to promote the town of Ave Maria created by a Catholic alumnus of another Catholic University having similar commonalities. This page gives information about the new town, its founder, links to the Ave Maria University and the new Private K 1-12 Grammar and Preparatory school that will soon be in operation there along with the university. It also provides information and services for purchasing a home in the new town.
www.LiveinAveMaria.com
Sincerely,
Jamesbohrer 01:28, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
James Bohrer LiveinAve.com
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 16:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
It would probably be helpful to have the zip code listed... The.helping.people.tick ( talk) 05:41, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Much of the information, including the location image, the coordinates, and the dates are correct for the city of Naples, FL. I will be clearing such information.-- Abusing ( talk) 19:05, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
This article should not be listed under "Christian communities". It should be listed under "cults". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.147.95 ( talk) 02:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Binksternet has deleted links claiming that doing so is required to comply with the following policies, but the two links in question do not violate these policies:
In this case, the commercial developer's link is appropriate for the same reasons the link to AveHerald.com and AveMariaLiving.com/dozens-of-ave-maria-links are appropriate, but the developer is NOT a governmental entity and does not control the town, which is far more broadly defined than the commercial developer (the town has thousands of residents and a thousand more people who work in town or study at the university), so the developer's website is NOT official and would not comply with the narrow rules Binksternet would like to impose for external links in this article.
It seems the policies more on point are:
These policies together anticipate as appropriate the links to the town's e-newspaper (AveHerald.com) and a site of over 100 links related to the town (AveMariaLiving.com) and the commercial developer (AveMaria.com), all of which provide a service to the town, to visitors and to those wishing to learn about the town. 74.5.191.140 ( talk) 06:40, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Text added with web addresses cited as references (rather than as links) as you suggested. Also, the adjective "controversial" was removed because this article is about the town, not about any controversies. All public figures become involved in controversies, and the primary place to write about them is in the wikipedia article about that person. 69.138.131.88 ( talk) 22:14, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm wondering what the form of government is here? Why is this labelled by Wikipedia as a "Catholic Community" but the article says it's a planned college town? I've heard some disturbing things about this town including the foibles of the "owners" (?) and his beliefs, lawsuits regarding relocation of employees, etc. I'm willing to work on it a bit, but a little confused why no info appears here already as what is being said is quite controversial. al ( talk) 00:47, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
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Shouldn't there be a section on controversies? After all, the whole concept of this town (given this is a real town and not some fenced in private property of a cult) violates several parts of the US constitution (mainly free speech and religious freedom). And lets be honest, how would America react if there was a similar community of muslim faith? 60.40.183.246 ( talk) 15:20, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
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The Lfassbender edit in the commerce section removing the mention of the Ave Herald and expanding the description of Ave Maria Neighbours seems fine to me--it looks like the Herald is no longer a going concern, as of 2017. [1] The issue is that the current references point to the Herald and to 'Ave Maria Living', a previous incarnation of Neighbours--those references should probably be updated or removed.
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I removed the word controversial as a qualifier to Tom Monaghan in the opening section. My change was reverted so I am starting a discussion here.
Adolph Hitler, Obama, Trump and the KKK are not listed as "controversial" on Wikipedia and yet somehow Tom Monaghan is? This is a subjective classification that adds no factual value and does not belong as a modifier in the article. Further - based on a quick search of other Wiki entries, there are no other times that I could find where Tom Monaghan is qualified as controversial. Bigdig23 ( talk) 17:47, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
I am planning on removing the routine coverage warning since significant edits have happened over the last month. Posting here in case there are differing views. Bigdig23 ( talk) 18:38, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
The Florida Panther article has this which seems like something obvious to include in the ecology section --
Southern Florida is a fast-developing area, and many developments such as Ave Maria near Naples, have become extremely controversial for their location in prime panther habitat, and for the roads surrounding them that kill panthers at an ever increasing rate. 57.135.233.22 ( talk) 00:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)