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"...argued for the historical autonomy of the Kingdom of Dalmatia, stressing that it had no connection whatsoever with Croatia. Though he admitted that the majority of the population was Slav in language, mentality and outlook, he pointed out thats is higher culture was Italian."
1) Yes. He wants the contemporary autonomy. But you should know that many Dalmatians believed that the Kingdom of Dalmatia had remained essentially autonomous in his title since the time of the ancient Romans. Even Giovanni Lucio / Ivan Lucic, strongly affirmed the concept in his "De Regno Dalmatiae et Croatiae". In a letter to his friend Da Ponte, he wrote: "se la disputa ha da stare nel titolo regio, le isole del levante non formano titolo; e se bene Sansovino dice che lo stato di terraferma, Friuli e Istria, formano un altro regno, questo è parte dell'Impero occidentale, anzi del Regno d'Italia, onde alli Veneziani resta la Dalmazia, ché, se l'affetto non mi inganna e se comincia a crivellare le cose, qui si cascarà al sicuro". I'm sorry for you, but Giovanni Lucio / Ivan Lucic never wrote in "Slavic".
2) Claiming, is better. Dalmatian Croatians of course did not agree with him.
3) Yes, it was his own opinion. But if you read something more (in the original text, maybe...), you will realize with great surprise that many Dalmatians - even of Croatian Party - said the same things, namely that the Italian culture had made civil Dalmatia. This is not an opinion of value: is an historical fact. Many Dalmatian Croatians then pursued the following policy: to awaken the spirit of the Croatian people, it should eliminate the Italians from Dalmatia, regarded as a dangerous and unwanted guest. Miho Klaic said many times: "We must eliminate any Italian influence in Dalmatia: schools and language. Then the fake Dalmatian Italians would revert to Croatians".--
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I think the IP is right. See for example Krekich, Ziliotto and Ghiglianovich.-- MacLot ( talk) 13:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Feel free to request a CU. Please, provide sources about a certain "Luj Ziliotto". "Luigi Ziliotto" was an Italian irredentist, Italian Senator, first mayor of Zadar after 1918. His name was "Luj"? Are you really sure? Who, where, when?-- MacLot ( talk) 16:24, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
I found also this source about Vincenzo Duplancich. In Croatian!-- MacLot ( talk) 16:26, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Right.-- MacLot ( talk) 16:35, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
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"...argued for the historical autonomy of the Kingdom of Dalmatia, stressing that it had no connection whatsoever with Croatia. Though he admitted that the majority of the population was Slav in language, mentality and outlook, he pointed out thats is higher culture was Italian."
1) Yes. He wants the contemporary autonomy. But you should know that many Dalmatians believed that the Kingdom of Dalmatia had remained essentially autonomous in his title since the time of the ancient Romans. Even Giovanni Lucio / Ivan Lucic, strongly affirmed the concept in his "De Regno Dalmatiae et Croatiae". In a letter to his friend Da Ponte, he wrote: "se la disputa ha da stare nel titolo regio, le isole del levante non formano titolo; e se bene Sansovino dice che lo stato di terraferma, Friuli e Istria, formano un altro regno, questo è parte dell'Impero occidentale, anzi del Regno d'Italia, onde alli Veneziani resta la Dalmazia, ché, se l'affetto non mi inganna e se comincia a crivellare le cose, qui si cascarà al sicuro". I'm sorry for you, but Giovanni Lucio / Ivan Lucic never wrote in "Slavic".
2) Claiming, is better. Dalmatian Croatians of course did not agree with him.
3) Yes, it was his own opinion. But if you read something more (in the original text, maybe...), you will realize with great surprise that many Dalmatians - even of Croatian Party - said the same things, namely that the Italian culture had made civil Dalmatia. This is not an opinion of value: is an historical fact. Many Dalmatian Croatians then pursued the following policy: to awaken the spirit of the Croatian people, it should eliminate the Italians from Dalmatia, regarded as a dangerous and unwanted guest. Miho Klaic said many times: "We must eliminate any Italian influence in Dalmatia: schools and language. Then the fake Dalmatian Italians would revert to Croatians".--
151.48.5.145 (
talk) 18:02, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I think the IP is right. See for example Krekich, Ziliotto and Ghiglianovich.-- MacLot ( talk) 13:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Feel free to request a CU. Please, provide sources about a certain "Luj Ziliotto". "Luigi Ziliotto" was an Italian irredentist, Italian Senator, first mayor of Zadar after 1918. His name was "Luj"? Are you really sure? Who, where, when?-- MacLot ( talk) 16:24, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
I found also this source about Vincenzo Duplancich. In Croatian!-- MacLot ( talk) 16:26, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Right.-- MacLot ( talk) 16:35, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
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