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According to the CAFE article, the CAFE calculation produces a figure of 24.6 mpg for 2004. However, this does not accurately capture alternative fuel vehicles and larger exempt vehicles, though it is unclear that larger vehicles are included in what is meant by "car". The Ford Model T article says the model T had a fuel efficiency of 13 to 21 mpg. So the claim above appears to be false. It also seems to be advocating higher fuel efficiency through selective statistics, ignoring the larger cargo and passenger capacity of modern cars. It's fine for the X Prize folks to be quoted giving statistics (though they should be fact-checked) but not for Wikipedia to be advocating for them. -- Beland 15:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Phoenix Motor Cars (all text removed) no longer appears on the PAIXP web site as a team. Apparently they withdrew from the competition, perhaps due to financial pressures related to their filing for bankruptcy. -- Stephreg ( talk) 02:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Myers Motors and Motor Development International (all text removed) no longer appear on the PAIXP web site as teams. -- Stephreg ( talk) 03:15, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure Brilliant Automotive team should not be listed twice. I believe the first entry is correct, as the town of Southfield, Iowa does not exist, as found by a Google maps search. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.206.215.66 ( talk) 17:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I found an MSNBC blog from last summer that lists entrants 'Green' Teams Go for Auto Race, probably based on a list from the official site. I am going to go through these lists and try to find some 'Missing Links', and put them here. Anyone else is welcome to help -- just log in, research it, and do it! Josh-Levin@ieee.org ( talk) 15:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC) updated Josh-Levin@ieee.org ( talk) 12:00, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
We should be saying something about these entries. Our goal isn't to simply list items, but to actually say something about each of them.
Also, secondary references need to be added; the home page of a manufacturer isn't ideal.
E_dog95' Hi ' 23:51, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
And uh, WHEN exactly will the competition be held/cars be judged/prize delivered? Althepal ( talk) 02:39, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I have prototyped some tables for showing the current standings in the contest. Would this be of any interest to readers? Suggestions for formatting or other columns welcome. -- IanOsgood ( talk) 21:52, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
The name of the "Title sponsor" was added in an undiscussed rename by
Phantomofthesea (
talk ·
contribs). It was perfectly acceptable & clear w/o company name, and perhaps more common per example of
article web pg and audio story from NPR (even tho they apparently take the sponsor's "ad-free" PR money!). "[T]he official name of the competition" is not what
NC specifies. I've renamed it back.
--
Jerzy•
t 01:30, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Should all 111 entrants be listed, or should we only list those that actually progressed to the shakedown stages? I ask because I have twice reverted the SABA Motors entry ( diff for last revert). The company, which doesn't have Wikipedia article of its own, entered the X Prize but decided not to compete because of the costs, so withdrew. On that basis I don't think they are notable enough to be listed. -- Biker Biker ( talk) 13:16, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Can following section be integrated:
As with all X-prizes, the foundation issued a very hefty cash prize (several million dollars) with this award. To explain this very hefty cash prize, the foundation directed to the fact that although the expandature is great, the technology the foundation gets back for the money spend in the prize, and the research done would be of far greater value. This would have been true if no 100 MPG-car or any really usable zero-emission engine already existed, however that wasn't the case as (perhaps oddly enough) 100 mpg cars were already present.
For example, from competitions such as the Shell Eco Marathon, average car weights of 45 kg and hence fuel consumption under 100 MPG are easily achieved (i.e. up to a fuel use of 2560 km/l ) [1] [2] [3]
References
Too many future tenses for an event which has already taken place... AnonMoos ( talk) 02:32, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
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The link doesn't appear to work. The correct link appears to be [1] https://www.xprize.org/prizes/auto DecisiveSquirrel ( talk) 16:27, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
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According to the CAFE article, the CAFE calculation produces a figure of 24.6 mpg for 2004. However, this does not accurately capture alternative fuel vehicles and larger exempt vehicles, though it is unclear that larger vehicles are included in what is meant by "car". The Ford Model T article says the model T had a fuel efficiency of 13 to 21 mpg. So the claim above appears to be false. It also seems to be advocating higher fuel efficiency through selective statistics, ignoring the larger cargo and passenger capacity of modern cars. It's fine for the X Prize folks to be quoted giving statistics (though they should be fact-checked) but not for Wikipedia to be advocating for them. -- Beland 15:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Phoenix Motor Cars (all text removed) no longer appears on the PAIXP web site as a team. Apparently they withdrew from the competition, perhaps due to financial pressures related to their filing for bankruptcy. -- Stephreg ( talk) 02:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Myers Motors and Motor Development International (all text removed) no longer appear on the PAIXP web site as teams. -- Stephreg ( talk) 03:15, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure Brilliant Automotive team should not be listed twice. I believe the first entry is correct, as the town of Southfield, Iowa does not exist, as found by a Google maps search. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.206.215.66 ( talk) 17:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I found an MSNBC blog from last summer that lists entrants 'Green' Teams Go for Auto Race, probably based on a list from the official site. I am going to go through these lists and try to find some 'Missing Links', and put them here. Anyone else is welcome to help -- just log in, research it, and do it! Josh-Levin@ieee.org ( talk) 15:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC) updated Josh-Levin@ieee.org ( talk) 12:00, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
We should be saying something about these entries. Our goal isn't to simply list items, but to actually say something about each of them.
Also, secondary references need to be added; the home page of a manufacturer isn't ideal.
E_dog95' Hi ' 23:51, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
And uh, WHEN exactly will the competition be held/cars be judged/prize delivered? Althepal ( talk) 02:39, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I have prototyped some tables for showing the current standings in the contest. Would this be of any interest to readers? Suggestions for formatting or other columns welcome. -- IanOsgood ( talk) 21:52, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
The name of the "Title sponsor" was added in an undiscussed rename by
Phantomofthesea (
talk ·
contribs). It was perfectly acceptable & clear w/o company name, and perhaps more common per example of
article web pg and audio story from NPR (even tho they apparently take the sponsor's "ad-free" PR money!). "[T]he official name of the competition" is not what
NC specifies. I've renamed it back.
--
Jerzy•
t 01:30, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Should all 111 entrants be listed, or should we only list those that actually progressed to the shakedown stages? I ask because I have twice reverted the SABA Motors entry ( diff for last revert). The company, which doesn't have Wikipedia article of its own, entered the X Prize but decided not to compete because of the costs, so withdrew. On that basis I don't think they are notable enough to be listed. -- Biker Biker ( talk) 13:16, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Can following section be integrated:
As with all X-prizes, the foundation issued a very hefty cash prize (several million dollars) with this award. To explain this very hefty cash prize, the foundation directed to the fact that although the expandature is great, the technology the foundation gets back for the money spend in the prize, and the research done would be of far greater value. This would have been true if no 100 MPG-car or any really usable zero-emission engine already existed, however that wasn't the case as (perhaps oddly enough) 100 mpg cars were already present.
For example, from competitions such as the Shell Eco Marathon, average car weights of 45 kg and hence fuel consumption under 100 MPG are easily achieved (i.e. up to a fuel use of 2560 km/l ) [1] [2] [3]
References
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The link doesn't appear to work. The correct link appears to be [1] https://www.xprize.org/prizes/auto DecisiveSquirrel ( talk) 16:27, 5 November 2023 (UTC)