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There's a new poll here that would (hopefully) end all this "Indigenous" vs. "Aborigine" controversy. Feel free to vote. Zarbat 09:22, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
The system shown as 'pintupi' is identical to the systems in the north, from the Daly right across the Katherine region to the Gulf, though there are at least three sets of skin terms; Tjapangardi corresponds to Jangari in the sundown system, which corresponds to Gamarrang in the east. Similarly, Jungarrayi in the Pintupi system is the same as Jungurra in the Daly and Jimija in the centre. I have no idea how to do this, but I think this page needs a graph that shows the translation from system to system. I'm pretty certain that they're structurally identical to the Pintupi (Warlpiri) system, differing only in terminology.
"Determined by the skin of one's parents." What does THAT mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.93.17.12 ( talk) 18:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I have to chime in here, too. What does "Skin Group" mean? The article assumes that the reader knows what a "Skin Group" is. If someone would be so kind as to elaborate... Thanks! 63.167.255.156 ( talk) 01:55, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
98.248.198.214 ( talk) 04:35, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
It's not clear how to complete the kinship table for the Lardil. If you pair the lines into father/son pairs going down the table, you get matricycles of length 2, not 4 (as stated below the table). Switching lines 4 and 5 of the table would fix this, but I have no idea if that is the correct fix. Does anybody know? 157.242.204.6 ( talk) 19:51, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
This article is missing a section to explain what happens when a man or woman decides to marry someone from a forbidden skin group. What would be the consequences for them and their children? And what about people who refuse to marry? What are the social prejudices related to these situations? Thanks 201.53.236.48 ( talk) 14:06, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
I, too, do not understand the jargon 'subsection'/'skin group'/'skin name'. Wikipedia is a resource for everyone, so jargon should be avoided. Probably, only a few added words would clarify this concept. But as it stands, the following questions naturally arise, and I don't even know if they are the right questions. This talk page, and all the pages using these 'skin' concepts, are in need of an expert who can explain what they mean.
Here are some of my questions: who invented the skin system, anthropologists or native peoples? What does it have to do with a person's skin? What is a 'subsection'? What quality of a human being defines membership in a 'subsection' (or how is it known what 'subsection' a person belongs to)?
I'm not looking for answers to these specific questions, but to improvements in the articles so such questions don't arise. David Spector ( talk) 11:55, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Ogress. The basis for my revert was two-fold. Aboriginal Australian kinship is particular to Aboriginal Australians, not all Indigenous Australians, which includes Torres Strait Islander peoples. Secondly, we always spell Indigenous with an initial capital when referring to peoples of Australia (See the draft style guide here.) The article on Indigenous customary law is in need of expansion and structuring, which I don't have time for now, but it does include both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people (Eddie Mabo was from the islands). Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 03:56, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Nothing on this entire page makes a lick of sense to someone who doesn't have an anthropology degree. 188.221.176.93 ( talk) 22:29, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
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There's a new poll here that would (hopefully) end all this "Indigenous" vs. "Aborigine" controversy. Feel free to vote. Zarbat 09:22, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
The system shown as 'pintupi' is identical to the systems in the north, from the Daly right across the Katherine region to the Gulf, though there are at least three sets of skin terms; Tjapangardi corresponds to Jangari in the sundown system, which corresponds to Gamarrang in the east. Similarly, Jungarrayi in the Pintupi system is the same as Jungurra in the Daly and Jimija in the centre. I have no idea how to do this, but I think this page needs a graph that shows the translation from system to system. I'm pretty certain that they're structurally identical to the Pintupi (Warlpiri) system, differing only in terminology.
"Determined by the skin of one's parents." What does THAT mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.93.17.12 ( talk) 18:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I have to chime in here, too. What does "Skin Group" mean? The article assumes that the reader knows what a "Skin Group" is. If someone would be so kind as to elaborate... Thanks! 63.167.255.156 ( talk) 01:55, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
98.248.198.214 ( talk) 04:35, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
It's not clear how to complete the kinship table for the Lardil. If you pair the lines into father/son pairs going down the table, you get matricycles of length 2, not 4 (as stated below the table). Switching lines 4 and 5 of the table would fix this, but I have no idea if that is the correct fix. Does anybody know? 157.242.204.6 ( talk) 19:51, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
This article is missing a section to explain what happens when a man or woman decides to marry someone from a forbidden skin group. What would be the consequences for them and their children? And what about people who refuse to marry? What are the social prejudices related to these situations? Thanks 201.53.236.48 ( talk) 14:06, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
I, too, do not understand the jargon 'subsection'/'skin group'/'skin name'. Wikipedia is a resource for everyone, so jargon should be avoided. Probably, only a few added words would clarify this concept. But as it stands, the following questions naturally arise, and I don't even know if they are the right questions. This talk page, and all the pages using these 'skin' concepts, are in need of an expert who can explain what they mean.
Here are some of my questions: who invented the skin system, anthropologists or native peoples? What does it have to do with a person's skin? What is a 'subsection'? What quality of a human being defines membership in a 'subsection' (or how is it known what 'subsection' a person belongs to)?
I'm not looking for answers to these specific questions, but to improvements in the articles so such questions don't arise. David Spector ( talk) 11:55, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Ogress. The basis for my revert was two-fold. Aboriginal Australian kinship is particular to Aboriginal Australians, not all Indigenous Australians, which includes Torres Strait Islander peoples. Secondly, we always spell Indigenous with an initial capital when referring to peoples of Australia (See the draft style guide here.) The article on Indigenous customary law is in need of expansion and structuring, which I don't have time for now, but it does include both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people (Eddie Mabo was from the islands). Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 03:56, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Nothing on this entire page makes a lick of sense to someone who doesn't have an anthropology degree. 188.221.176.93 ( talk) 22:29, 7 March 2023 (UTC)