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you must take issue with the replaced statement that "america" is Latin for South Asia. In fact it derives from the name originally given it by 15th and 16th century map makers, who called it "Terra Australis Icognica" i.e. the Unknown Southland"
Australia,fack
as a continent, not as a state, is Australia and Oceania is Oceania, which includes several states, such as Fiji, Tonga etc. New Zealand continentally belongs to Australia, and Papua New Guinea - to Eurasia. Euarasia combines two parts of the world - Europe and Asia, which often mistakenly are thought to be different continents. 80.254.7.254 ( talk) 17:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I'd always thought of Australasia as meanign only Autralia and New Zealand. When Australia was considering federation, New Zealnd delegates attended several of our constitutional conventions and New Zealnd has the right to join the federation at any time.
The term has always meant NZ and Australia. I've never understood it to mean Papua New Guinea or any other countries. And yes I live in the south of South Island of NZ.
I think both this discussion and the Oceania clearly establishes the fact that there is disagreement about whether in fact New Zealanders consider themselves part of Australasia, etc. Rather than arguing about who's right, does anyone have any actual evidence for either side? — rodii 03:10, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
What is the difference between Oceania and Australasia? If there is one, this article should explain the difference. -Bonus Onus 14 November 2005
Australasia is equivalent to the usage of the word Europe. Europe includes Great Britain (a separate island from continental Europe as such), but is still used, in the sense of a word, much as a contintental title. Therefore, Australasia is a continent title for Australia and New Zealand. As far as I was aware, it did not include other islands. Oceania may include other islands, but is not an established geographical label for the same thing. - Paul Farquharson
Hi, in order to have the merge discussions at one place, I suggest that all discussions about the proposed merge take place at Talk:Oceania so that continuity is not lost (else, we would end up with discussions on both talkpages making it difficult to follow who is saying what). -- Gurubrahma 11:25, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Australia, New Zealand and the islands like Fiji, New Caledonia, Vanuatu etc is apart of the Oceania/Pacific regein. The Continent in that part is Australia, the only countries in the Continent Australia is the country Australia. Australia is NOT apart of asia. Papua New guinea was apart of Indonesia which is asian so Pap new guinea is ASIAN AND NOT AUSTRALIAN! —The preceding
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Consider this. What makes it asian? That's nothing more than an arbitrary classification imposed by human beings... just like the classification that makes it apart of the arbitrary geographic classification of Australasia. Far Queue 01:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Is all of Indonesia included under Australasia in anyone's definition, as the map shows? kwami 02:23, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
The good thing about the original text is that it pre-dates political correctness and hyper-sensitivity of various nations in the region who view geographical and other terms as insulting for not supporting current political borders. Apart from that it is just the opinion of the authors at the time:
I am not comfortable with the scentence, "Anthropologists, although disagreeing on details, generally support theories that call for a Southeastern Asian origin of indigenous island peoples in Australasia and neighboring subregions." - There is no real link between melanesians, aborgines and Polynesians such as the Maori, other than the very broad common starting point for these different people's migrations. Does this scentence add any useful information? Winstonwolfe 07:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Currently a number of different styles of maps are used for continents (and for the poles), for example:
I'd like to try and standardise maps across the following articles: Americas, North America, South America, Africa, Afro-Eurasia, Asia, Australasia, Eurasia, Europe and Oceania (and also, ideally, Arctic and Antarctica. My preference is for the orthographic projection currently used at Europe because:
Assuming there's consensus for this, I'll post a request at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Image workshop (unless, of course, anyone volunteers beforehand!) However, before doing that I do want to check that there is consensus for this at each article affected. Additionally, I'm posting this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography to increase the exposure - I'd rather find out if this is a stupid idea before I start requesting new images ;-)
Personally I think it would be good if the Arctic and Antarctic maps were consistent with the continent maps. I realise that the poles may have different requirements, however.
This proposal is quite a radical proposal, affecting many articles, and deals with areas I don't normally edit in. I'm therefore prepared to be slapped down if I'm stepping on toes!
Cheers, This flag once was red propaganda deeds 10:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
1. I don't know the answer to this, but the text describes Australasia as a subset of Oceania, yet the colored lands in the map for Australasia are actually more expansive than those colored on the Oceania Wikipedia article. I am not sure which are correct, but either the colors on one of the maps needs to change or the text needs to change, as they are in conflict.
2. In addition, this article says Australasia includes Papua New Guinea, but the map shows that it includes all of the island of New Guinea (including Irian Jaya) not just Papua New Guinea. Either the word "Papua" needs to be taken out, because it is misleading, or the green needs to be shrunk on the island of New Guinea.
Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.164.236.198 ( talk) 00:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
The New Zealand Oxford Dictionary published by Oxford University Press, 2005, ISBN-13: 97801955584516 makes the following statements:
Australasia
Oceania
Eddaido ( talk) 21:41, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
References
Australasia comprises Australia, New Zealand, and some neighbouring islands (see the section Derivations) It is used in a number of different context including geopolitically, physiographically, and ecologically where the term covers several several slightly different but related regions
.
With the edit of 4 March 2019 by User:Eddaido this article is now a dictionary definition. I think that village pump, and the Australian and New Zealand projects should be asked to conribute sourced content. If none is forthcoming then the content of this article should be moved to Wiki Dictionary. -- PBS ( talk) 10:31, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
According to many maps, Australasia comprises Australia, New Zealand and.... Melanesia (New Guinea island and many small islands). Maybe it is worth putting it in the intro of article. Subtropical-man ( ✉ | en-2) 17:40, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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you must take issue with the replaced statement that "america" is Latin for South Asia. In fact it derives from the name originally given it by 15th and 16th century map makers, who called it "Terra Australis Icognica" i.e. the Unknown Southland"
Australia,fack
as a continent, not as a state, is Australia and Oceania is Oceania, which includes several states, such as Fiji, Tonga etc. New Zealand continentally belongs to Australia, and Papua New Guinea - to Eurasia. Euarasia combines two parts of the world - Europe and Asia, which often mistakenly are thought to be different continents. 80.254.7.254 ( talk) 17:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I'd always thought of Australasia as meanign only Autralia and New Zealand. When Australia was considering federation, New Zealnd delegates attended several of our constitutional conventions and New Zealnd has the right to join the federation at any time.
The term has always meant NZ and Australia. I've never understood it to mean Papua New Guinea or any other countries. And yes I live in the south of South Island of NZ.
I think both this discussion and the Oceania clearly establishes the fact that there is disagreement about whether in fact New Zealanders consider themselves part of Australasia, etc. Rather than arguing about who's right, does anyone have any actual evidence for either side? — rodii 03:10, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
What is the difference between Oceania and Australasia? If there is one, this article should explain the difference. -Bonus Onus 14 November 2005
Australasia is equivalent to the usage of the word Europe. Europe includes Great Britain (a separate island from continental Europe as such), but is still used, in the sense of a word, much as a contintental title. Therefore, Australasia is a continent title for Australia and New Zealand. As far as I was aware, it did not include other islands. Oceania may include other islands, but is not an established geographical label for the same thing. - Paul Farquharson
Hi, in order to have the merge discussions at one place, I suggest that all discussions about the proposed merge take place at Talk:Oceania so that continuity is not lost (else, we would end up with discussions on both talkpages making it difficult to follow who is saying what). -- Gurubrahma 11:25, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Australia, New Zealand and the islands like Fiji, New Caledonia, Vanuatu etc is apart of the Oceania/Pacific regein. The Continent in that part is Australia, the only countries in the Continent Australia is the country Australia. Australia is NOT apart of asia. Papua New guinea was apart of Indonesia which is asian so Pap new guinea is ASIAN AND NOT AUSTRALIAN! —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
DarthCud (
talk •
contribs) .
Consider this. What makes it asian? That's nothing more than an arbitrary classification imposed by human beings... just like the classification that makes it apart of the arbitrary geographic classification of Australasia. Far Queue 01:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Is all of Indonesia included under Australasia in anyone's definition, as the map shows? kwami 02:23, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
The good thing about the original text is that it pre-dates political correctness and hyper-sensitivity of various nations in the region who view geographical and other terms as insulting for not supporting current political borders. Apart from that it is just the opinion of the authors at the time:
I am not comfortable with the scentence, "Anthropologists, although disagreeing on details, generally support theories that call for a Southeastern Asian origin of indigenous island peoples in Australasia and neighboring subregions." - There is no real link between melanesians, aborgines and Polynesians such as the Maori, other than the very broad common starting point for these different people's migrations. Does this scentence add any useful information? Winstonwolfe 07:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Currently a number of different styles of maps are used for continents (and for the poles), for example:
I'd like to try and standardise maps across the following articles: Americas, North America, South America, Africa, Afro-Eurasia, Asia, Australasia, Eurasia, Europe and Oceania (and also, ideally, Arctic and Antarctica. My preference is for the orthographic projection currently used at Europe because:
Assuming there's consensus for this, I'll post a request at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Image workshop (unless, of course, anyone volunteers beforehand!) However, before doing that I do want to check that there is consensus for this at each article affected. Additionally, I'm posting this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography to increase the exposure - I'd rather find out if this is a stupid idea before I start requesting new images ;-)
Personally I think it would be good if the Arctic and Antarctic maps were consistent with the continent maps. I realise that the poles may have different requirements, however.
This proposal is quite a radical proposal, affecting many articles, and deals with areas I don't normally edit in. I'm therefore prepared to be slapped down if I'm stepping on toes!
Cheers, This flag once was red propaganda deeds 10:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
1. I don't know the answer to this, but the text describes Australasia as a subset of Oceania, yet the colored lands in the map for Australasia are actually more expansive than those colored on the Oceania Wikipedia article. I am not sure which are correct, but either the colors on one of the maps needs to change or the text needs to change, as they are in conflict.
2. In addition, this article says Australasia includes Papua New Guinea, but the map shows that it includes all of the island of New Guinea (including Irian Jaya) not just Papua New Guinea. Either the word "Papua" needs to be taken out, because it is misleading, or the green needs to be shrunk on the island of New Guinea.
Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.164.236.198 ( talk) 00:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
The New Zealand Oxford Dictionary published by Oxford University Press, 2005, ISBN-13: 97801955584516 makes the following statements:
Australasia
Oceania
Eddaido ( talk) 21:41, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
References
Australasia comprises Australia, New Zealand, and some neighbouring islands (see the section Derivations) It is used in a number of different context including geopolitically, physiographically, and ecologically where the term covers several several slightly different but related regions
.
With the edit of 4 March 2019 by User:Eddaido this article is now a dictionary definition. I think that village pump, and the Australian and New Zealand projects should be asked to conribute sourced content. If none is forthcoming then the content of this article should be moved to Wiki Dictionary. -- PBS ( talk) 10:31, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
According to many maps, Australasia comprises Australia, New Zealand and.... Melanesia (New Guinea island and many small islands). Maybe it is worth putting it in the intro of article. Subtropical-man ( ✉ | en-2) 17:40, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 21 March 2022 and 18 May 2022. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
JustynR10 (
article contribs). Peer reviewers:
Thor2022,
Rai6827.