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On this page it says a rival assasininated him. On another page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ne_Win it says it was the British. Who was it???
bonfire: U Saw was found guilty of assasination. But the truth was mystry. According to the book, Aung San(I cant recall the exact title), U Saw was shot by a paramilitary who was donning uniform under General Aung San's command. He was wounded serverly and hospitalized for several months. Since then, U Saw targeted General Aung San. According to the author of the book, the paramilitary who shot U Saw was not affiliated with General Aung San's forces. The shooter also did not intend to kill U Saw; they (the shooter and people behind it) let U Saw harte General Aung San. Author concluded that Ne Win was the most responsible person behind the whole thing. I know that it is impossible to accuse someone without concrete evidence. I, myself, was not born during that time. That will be great if someone who know far more better than me could post here, but it is almost impossible because people who involved in the investigation are mostly dead.
According to a cable from Rance (Governor of Burma) to Pethwick Lawrence (the S of S for Burma in London) on the evening of the day the attack occurred, U Saw was shot at by men wearing the uniform of the PVO, Aung San's people (Pyithu Yebaw Tathpwe). I've revised the article on U Saw to summarise the account from Kin Oung's book, which remains the best - Kin Oung's investigation is thorough, and his standard of proof for any incident is two independent accounts. PiCo 12:33, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
I have heard that U Myat Hlaing, who is the editor of Shumawa Magazine and, Yangon U Ba Swe tried yo hurt U Saw, but unluckily, U Saw lately know this when he was in the prison waiting a hang. That is written in the diary of U Saw, which was handed to his daughter, Daw Babysaw. For Daw Babysaw gave it to Daw Aung San Su Kyi, for washing her father's guilty.
when you look at the bigger picture, you can clearly see that the Brit wanted to take care of AungSan. The Brit had a beef with him. I mean, first of all, he was one of the founding father of independent movement and he made a bold move by bring Jap into Burma. Yo...British hates that kind of thing. plus, the dude was only 32 when he die....You know what i saying here... AungSan was a smart ass and still young ....had potential..and he wrote several paper about how the west was dominating the world and of color people ......you know ....matter of fact, AungSan hates WhitePeople....well, British Killed him.. U Saw was a puppet of UK. he was in British Jail during ww2. he cut a deal ....because 2 weeks before Aungsan death, some burmese army officers reported that some guns from arm depot were missing....( at that time, Brits and BUmrese armys were joint guarding most of the main posts in Yangon. but English officers were in charge) and those guns numbers and U Saw group' guns .....there are crystal clear proof. u do the math. Whitemen kill another color brother...just because he knew what the European were doing and he had an ability to fight back politically, diplomatically and in civilize ways ... YES>>>> BRITS KILL Gen. Aung San. not U Saw. ask me more about Burma, i know about that country more that burmese.
Why did he have a Chinese name? Andwhat did his various names mean in Burmese? 86.166.125.182 ( talk) 00:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
The U Saw article says that low-ranking officers were involved and describes how one officer provided arms. This article refers to middle-ranking officers being "involved" in the plot - which implies more than just providing guns. -- Beardo ( talk) 15:29, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Google Books link:
The Rise and Fall of the Communist Party of Burma:
Cornell University Press link:
The Rise and Fall of the Communist Party of Burma
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Please stop changing the dates to D/M/Y. Wikipedia's policy is that whatever dating system was used first should be the dating system that is used. If you look at the history of this article, you will find that it was originally M/D/Y. Ferox Seneca ( talk) 09:45, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
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Someone put an "undue weight" tag on the "assassination" section. I assume that this was done because the section discusses possible actors in Aung San's assassination besides U Saw. U Saw was convicted with circumstantial evidence, Aung San's assassins were never caught, and from the time of Aung San's assassination until the present day many politicians, military figures, and reliable news organizations have openly discussed theories that there were other actors, the most commonly cited of which have been some faction in the British army or Ne Win. It hasn't been entirely possible to investigate these theories, since any investigators in Burma doing so after 1947 were themselves assassinated, and since the Tatmadaw closed the country and enforced strict censorship, but it is very normal for English-language historians writing about Aung San's assassination to include information about the controversy surrounding the event rather than presenting it as a simple set of factual information. All information in the section is taken from reliable sources, and is a reflection of the sources cited. I don't see any attempts from other editors to provide alternative opinions. Where is there undue weight? Ferox Seneca ( talk) 05:48, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
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What I suspect is a state-backed influence operation going on here. Stress theorist ( talk) 21:03, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
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I am coming here because I got a notification email from JordanKSM's ping. Actually, Nay doesn't exist. It's established at [ [4]]. The source cannot be found on World Catalogue or anywhere online or offline. I have quoted the resolution admin in verbatim; I've searched online and I cannot find any evidence this source exists- not even a Worldcat entry. This does seem to indicate it is not Reliable. And if its not a WP:RS this discussion is unnecessary because any information supported only by this source cannot be included. Once you have notified the involved editors and provided publication information- I will be happy to mediate this discussion. Nightenbelle (talk) 17:26, 10 May 2021 (UTC) |
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Just imagine the chance that the Wikipedia article of Aung San, a national hero in Myanmar, is heavily edited by so many Chinese users. Of course, just pure chance! Stress theorist ( talk) 11:20, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
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On this page it says a rival assasininated him. On another page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ne_Win it says it was the British. Who was it???
bonfire: U Saw was found guilty of assasination. But the truth was mystry. According to the book, Aung San(I cant recall the exact title), U Saw was shot by a paramilitary who was donning uniform under General Aung San's command. He was wounded serverly and hospitalized for several months. Since then, U Saw targeted General Aung San. According to the author of the book, the paramilitary who shot U Saw was not affiliated with General Aung San's forces. The shooter also did not intend to kill U Saw; they (the shooter and people behind it) let U Saw harte General Aung San. Author concluded that Ne Win was the most responsible person behind the whole thing. I know that it is impossible to accuse someone without concrete evidence. I, myself, was not born during that time. That will be great if someone who know far more better than me could post here, but it is almost impossible because people who involved in the investigation are mostly dead.
According to a cable from Rance (Governor of Burma) to Pethwick Lawrence (the S of S for Burma in London) on the evening of the day the attack occurred, U Saw was shot at by men wearing the uniform of the PVO, Aung San's people (Pyithu Yebaw Tathpwe). I've revised the article on U Saw to summarise the account from Kin Oung's book, which remains the best - Kin Oung's investigation is thorough, and his standard of proof for any incident is two independent accounts. PiCo 12:33, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
I have heard that U Myat Hlaing, who is the editor of Shumawa Magazine and, Yangon U Ba Swe tried yo hurt U Saw, but unluckily, U Saw lately know this when he was in the prison waiting a hang. That is written in the diary of U Saw, which was handed to his daughter, Daw Babysaw. For Daw Babysaw gave it to Daw Aung San Su Kyi, for washing her father's guilty.
when you look at the bigger picture, you can clearly see that the Brit wanted to take care of AungSan. The Brit had a beef with him. I mean, first of all, he was one of the founding father of independent movement and he made a bold move by bring Jap into Burma. Yo...British hates that kind of thing. plus, the dude was only 32 when he die....You know what i saying here... AungSan was a smart ass and still young ....had potential..and he wrote several paper about how the west was dominating the world and of color people ......you know ....matter of fact, AungSan hates WhitePeople....well, British Killed him.. U Saw was a puppet of UK. he was in British Jail during ww2. he cut a deal ....because 2 weeks before Aungsan death, some burmese army officers reported that some guns from arm depot were missing....( at that time, Brits and BUmrese armys were joint guarding most of the main posts in Yangon. but English officers were in charge) and those guns numbers and U Saw group' guns .....there are crystal clear proof. u do the math. Whitemen kill another color brother...just because he knew what the European were doing and he had an ability to fight back politically, diplomatically and in civilize ways ... YES>>>> BRITS KILL Gen. Aung San. not U Saw. ask me more about Burma, i know about that country more that burmese.
Why did he have a Chinese name? Andwhat did his various names mean in Burmese? 86.166.125.182 ( talk) 00:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
The U Saw article says that low-ranking officers were involved and describes how one officer provided arms. This article refers to middle-ranking officers being "involved" in the plot - which implies more than just providing guns. -- Beardo ( talk) 15:29, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Google Books link:
The Rise and Fall of the Communist Party of Burma:
Cornell University Press link:
The Rise and Fall of the Communist Party of Burma
http://seap.einaudi.cornell.edu/node/8445 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.73.131.126 ( talk) 05:29, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
@ The Buddhism City of Myanmar: Please stop adding uncited and questionable information. You have been reverted by multiple editors and continue to spam the same information. Please discuss challenged additions on the talk page. Ogress smash! 05:25, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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Please stop changing the dates to D/M/Y. Wikipedia's policy is that whatever dating system was used first should be the dating system that is used. If you look at the history of this article, you will find that it was originally M/D/Y. Ferox Seneca ( talk) 09:45, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
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Someone put an "undue weight" tag on the "assassination" section. I assume that this was done because the section discusses possible actors in Aung San's assassination besides U Saw. U Saw was convicted with circumstantial evidence, Aung San's assassins were never caught, and from the time of Aung San's assassination until the present day many politicians, military figures, and reliable news organizations have openly discussed theories that there were other actors, the most commonly cited of which have been some faction in the British army or Ne Win. It hasn't been entirely possible to investigate these theories, since any investigators in Burma doing so after 1947 were themselves assassinated, and since the Tatmadaw closed the country and enforced strict censorship, but it is very normal for English-language historians writing about Aung San's assassination to include information about the controversy surrounding the event rather than presenting it as a simple set of factual information. All information in the section is taken from reliable sources, and is a reflection of the sources cited. I don't see any attempts from other editors to provide alternative opinions. Where is there undue weight? Ferox Seneca ( talk) 05:48, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
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What I suspect is a state-backed influence operation going on here. Stress theorist ( talk) 21:03, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
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I am coming here because I got a notification email from JordanKSM's ping. Actually, Nay doesn't exist. It's established at [ [4]]. The source cannot be found on World Catalogue or anywhere online or offline. I have quoted the resolution admin in verbatim; I've searched online and I cannot find any evidence this source exists- not even a Worldcat entry. This does seem to indicate it is not Reliable. And if its not a WP:RS this discussion is unnecessary because any information supported only by this source cannot be included. Once you have notified the involved editors and provided publication information- I will be happy to mediate this discussion. Nightenbelle (talk) 17:26, 10 May 2021 (UTC) |
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Just imagine the chance that the Wikipedia article of Aung San, a national hero in Myanmar, is heavily edited by so many Chinese users. Of course, just pure chance! Stress theorist ( talk) 11:20, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
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