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Some reasons, perhaps, that the V8 was not the sales success it could have been:
1) Brand counts for a lot in this market segment with Mercedes, BMW & Jaguar all having a loyal customer base who would have possibly been reluctant to change to a non-established (in that segment) brand.
2) The V8 offered features not particularly sought after in that segment i.e. 4WD and a galvanised bodyshell were not then market expectations for that vehicle class, therefore buyers may have been reluctant to pay for these. Furthermore, that class of car was expected to offer high refinement (ride quality & low noise (NVH)) and a high quality interior which the V8 did not compete against the established sellers.
LewisR
00:44, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Don't think it's neutral enough to just state in the article that the audi in many respects was a better car than Lexus LS400, Mercedes S-Class and BMW 7-Series. It should be explained further. The fact that it had four wheel drive is not a good arguement alone to support such claim. The Lexus LS400, for instance, had superior engine technology, smoothness and durability to the audi V8, hence there are different advantages with each car in this class. Therefore, stating that the audi is superior requires a lot more explaination. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.213.255.35 ( talk) 15:11, 3 August 2008 (UTC) Deleted all of those statements. SHAMAN 20:48, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to create nice table with production figures by year like it's here:
Mercedes-Benz W126#Production figures, but have no data, doees anyone now how to find such information?
Another thing is to find exact dimensions of normal and long wheelbase version, unfortunately sources on the internet vary in that matter, perhaps someone know where to find original owner's manual?
Shaman (
talk) 10:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)Done.
SHAMAN
20:45, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Jappalang ( talk) 03:48, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
The principle of Wikipedia is
verifiable information from
reliable sources. Typically, this means that the sources of information for automobiles are motoring publications (books and magazines), or from widely acknowledged experts in the field (people often quoted by those said publications for their opinions). Most of the sources in this article are not reliable by those means. Fansites (AudiV8.com, Audistory.24max), a site that states "The specifications for this 1993 Audi V8 Lang car are presented for your information only and no guarantees as to their accuracy can be given. Use this data entirely at your own risk." (carfolio), and a wiki (AudiFans) are just a few striking examples of this (theere are others still). Please look for published reviews and reports on the vehicle for this article. Several uncited information (such as "Interesting fact is that those DTM cars retained walnut wood trim on doors and dashboard. They are currently preserved and are exhibited in Audi Forum museums in Inglostadt and Neckarsulm, racing on occasion at special events.") are
original research (not substantiated by reliable sources). It is pointless to review text content when the information could be unsubstantiated and may have to be removed. Some of the images seems to have been transferred from wiki to wiki, and no trail (transfer history) is provided to verify that the original licensing has been followed.
Jappalang (
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03:48, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Suri 100 ( talk · contribs) 11:32, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
I am reviewing this article. I put the article on hold for following reasons:-
Status:- On hold. So i am keeping this article on hold for 7 days.
After these issues are addressed, i will further do review. Suri 100 ( talk) 11:45, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
I am putting the article for a second opinion as i have less expertise in dealing with the technicalities with this article. The article would be reviewed further soon. Suri 100 ( talk) 06:31, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your patience in waiting for me to return. My overall impression is that this article does a good job of detailing the various parts of the Audi V8, but I don't believe the "main aspects" of the subject are yet covered as required by the GA criteria. There's almost no discussion of the car's development process, reception, sales, or role in Audi's history. The Audi V8's reception by reviewers, for example, is relevant and readily available in articles like this one. I'm also concerned with the quality of the sourcing throughout the article; most of the information appears to be sourced to self-published Audi fan sites, rather than reliable secondary sources. Other sources include a bulletin board thread and a user-submitted photograph, which clearly don't pass muster. The catalog numbers of various parts, in contrast, seem to me a level of detail unneeded for an encyclopedia article (a problem under criterion 3b). Some minor work should also be done for layout to address the large number of small sections.
Since the nominator doesn't appear to have edited the article yet aside from responding to the comment above, I'm going to close this review for now and suggest that more work be done before renomination. I'd start out by gathering reliable sources on the subject--how do publications like newspapers, magazines, or reference works describe the car? That will give this a stronger start. Thanks for your work on this so far, and good luck in rewriting and renominating it! Please let me know if you have any questions or if there's any other way I can offer assistance. -- Khazar2 ( talk) 23:35, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
More detailed comments:
The article claims the "one-off experimental Avant (estate) version" is no longer on display at the Audi Forum in Ingolstadt, but this is incorrect. I was just there today and saw it on the large rotating carousel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.5.47.1 ( talk) 21:02, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
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Some reasons, perhaps, that the V8 was not the sales success it could have been:
1) Brand counts for a lot in this market segment with Mercedes, BMW & Jaguar all having a loyal customer base who would have possibly been reluctant to change to a non-established (in that segment) brand.
2) The V8 offered features not particularly sought after in that segment i.e. 4WD and a galvanised bodyshell were not then market expectations for that vehicle class, therefore buyers may have been reluctant to pay for these. Furthermore, that class of car was expected to offer high refinement (ride quality & low noise (NVH)) and a high quality interior which the V8 did not compete against the established sellers.
LewisR
00:44, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Don't think it's neutral enough to just state in the article that the audi in many respects was a better car than Lexus LS400, Mercedes S-Class and BMW 7-Series. It should be explained further. The fact that it had four wheel drive is not a good arguement alone to support such claim. The Lexus LS400, for instance, had superior engine technology, smoothness and durability to the audi V8, hence there are different advantages with each car in this class. Therefore, stating that the audi is superior requires a lot more explaination. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.213.255.35 ( talk) 15:11, 3 August 2008 (UTC) Deleted all of those statements. SHAMAN 20:48, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to create nice table with production figures by year like it's here:
Mercedes-Benz W126#Production figures, but have no data, doees anyone now how to find such information?
Another thing is to find exact dimensions of normal and long wheelbase version, unfortunately sources on the internet vary in that matter, perhaps someone know where to find original owner's manual?
Shaman (
talk) 10:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)Done.
SHAMAN
20:45, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Jappalang ( talk) 03:48, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
The principle of Wikipedia is
verifiable information from
reliable sources. Typically, this means that the sources of information for automobiles are motoring publications (books and magazines), or from widely acknowledged experts in the field (people often quoted by those said publications for their opinions). Most of the sources in this article are not reliable by those means. Fansites (AudiV8.com, Audistory.24max), a site that states "The specifications for this 1993 Audi V8 Lang car are presented for your information only and no guarantees as to their accuracy can be given. Use this data entirely at your own risk." (carfolio), and a wiki (AudiFans) are just a few striking examples of this (theere are others still). Please look for published reviews and reports on the vehicle for this article. Several uncited information (such as "Interesting fact is that those DTM cars retained walnut wood trim on doors and dashboard. They are currently preserved and are exhibited in Audi Forum museums in Inglostadt and Neckarsulm, racing on occasion at special events.") are
original research (not substantiated by reliable sources). It is pointless to review text content when the information could be unsubstantiated and may have to be removed. Some of the images seems to have been transferred from wiki to wiki, and no trail (transfer history) is provided to verify that the original licensing has been followed.
Jappalang (
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03:48, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Suri 100 ( talk · contribs) 11:32, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
I am reviewing this article. I put the article on hold for following reasons:-
Status:- On hold. So i am keeping this article on hold for 7 days.
After these issues are addressed, i will further do review. Suri 100 ( talk) 11:45, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
I am putting the article for a second opinion as i have less expertise in dealing with the technicalities with this article. The article would be reviewed further soon. Suri 100 ( talk) 06:31, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your patience in waiting for me to return. My overall impression is that this article does a good job of detailing the various parts of the Audi V8, but I don't believe the "main aspects" of the subject are yet covered as required by the GA criteria. There's almost no discussion of the car's development process, reception, sales, or role in Audi's history. The Audi V8's reception by reviewers, for example, is relevant and readily available in articles like this one. I'm also concerned with the quality of the sourcing throughout the article; most of the information appears to be sourced to self-published Audi fan sites, rather than reliable secondary sources. Other sources include a bulletin board thread and a user-submitted photograph, which clearly don't pass muster. The catalog numbers of various parts, in contrast, seem to me a level of detail unneeded for an encyclopedia article (a problem under criterion 3b). Some minor work should also be done for layout to address the large number of small sections.
Since the nominator doesn't appear to have edited the article yet aside from responding to the comment above, I'm going to close this review for now and suggest that more work be done before renomination. I'd start out by gathering reliable sources on the subject--how do publications like newspapers, magazines, or reference works describe the car? That will give this a stronger start. Thanks for your work on this so far, and good luck in rewriting and renominating it! Please let me know if you have any questions or if there's any other way I can offer assistance. -- Khazar2 ( talk) 23:35, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
More detailed comments:
The article claims the "one-off experimental Avant (estate) version" is no longer on display at the Audi Forum in Ingolstadt, but this is incorrect. I was just there today and saw it on the large rotating carousel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.5.47.1 ( talk) 21:02, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
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