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Kerry Chance is a 32-page report rather than a book; while not intrinsically unreliable, who is she and is the fact that it was published by a presumably reputable academic press sufficient to get it over the edge? Also, am not sure about Scoop.co.nz, and have
asked elsewhere. I'll say now, though, that unless it's a resounding no from those chaps, since it's only been used a couple of times, I'll happily accept it. I'd ignore it completely on those grounds usually, but the claims it is referencing are pretty strong.Everything else looks generally OK—university presses, reputable news outlets, peer-reviewed hournals etc—but FYI, if you do take this further, with the closer scrutiny they might receive, sources such as Des informémonos and Western Cape Anti-Eviction Campaign might be questioned as to neutrality.Again, a comprehensive treatment isn't necessary for GA, but further on you might want to mine Hall et al.'s Learning and education for a better world : the role of social movements (available at the
Internet Archive; also Bryant has a lengthy piece in Alexander & Pithouse (eds.), Yonk 'indcnvo umzabalazo uyasivumela: New work from Durban (Durban, 2006) is probably essential.Formatting: Tissington needs location of publisher.
Had another look around, didn't find much. The article on
Kennedy Road, Durban has a location map I could add I suppose. It also has a picture of a hall, which might be the hall in question, but we don't know for sure. And there is a pic of an AbM banner.
Mujinga (
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10:30, 25 March 2022 (UTC)reply
I think the map would be of intrinsic use; the other two less so? The hall not, if we don't think it's the same one, and the banner if it's a different protest?
Passing now, as everything above is done and there's plenty of time for that below. Great article. Ping me to the FAC :)
SN5412914:59, 26 March 2022 (UTC)reply
The mob's motives for attack the settlement could certainly do with some more detail, possibly as part of a contextual ==Background== section; at the moment, the only reason given for the attack is that AbM was anti-Zulu.
were COPE members and that they had been killed by ANC members - can the latter "members" be avoided to save repetition? (Just as an example, we often refer to "
IRA men" as well as "
IRA members".
I think you'll want to clarify precisely why the repeated delays to the hearing indicated politicisation; I kind of know what you're getting at—that they kept stalling while
pressure was brought to bear on witnesses, for example—but it could be more explicit.
Regarding parenthesised ellipses, check with
WP:... to ensure MOS compliance, specifically, are they mak[ing] clear that it isn't original to the material being quoted?
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Kerry Chance is a 32-page report rather than a book; while not intrinsically unreliable, who is she and is the fact that it was published by a presumably reputable academic press sufficient to get it over the edge? Also, am not sure about Scoop.co.nz, and have
asked elsewhere. I'll say now, though, that unless it's a resounding no from those chaps, since it's only been used a couple of times, I'll happily accept it. I'd ignore it completely on those grounds usually, but the claims it is referencing are pretty strong.Everything else looks generally OK—university presses, reputable news outlets, peer-reviewed hournals etc—but FYI, if you do take this further, with the closer scrutiny they might receive, sources such as Des informémonos and Western Cape Anti-Eviction Campaign might be questioned as to neutrality.Again, a comprehensive treatment isn't necessary for GA, but further on you might want to mine Hall et al.'s Learning and education for a better world : the role of social movements (available at the
Internet Archive; also Bryant has a lengthy piece in Alexander & Pithouse (eds.), Yonk 'indcnvo umzabalazo uyasivumela: New work from Durban (Durban, 2006) is probably essential.Formatting: Tissington needs location of publisher.
Had another look around, didn't find much. The article on
Kennedy Road, Durban has a location map I could add I suppose. It also has a picture of a hall, which might be the hall in question, but we don't know for sure. And there is a pic of an AbM banner.
Mujinga (
talk)
10:30, 25 March 2022 (UTC)reply
I think the map would be of intrinsic use; the other two less so? The hall not, if we don't think it's the same one, and the banner if it's a different protest?
Passing now, as everything above is done and there's plenty of time for that below. Great article. Ping me to the FAC :)
SN5412914:59, 26 March 2022 (UTC)reply
The mob's motives for attack the settlement could certainly do with some more detail, possibly as part of a contextual ==Background== section; at the moment, the only reason given for the attack is that AbM was anti-Zulu.
were COPE members and that they had been killed by ANC members - can the latter "members" be avoided to save repetition? (Just as an example, we often refer to "
IRA men" as well as "
IRA members".
I think you'll want to clarify precisely why the repeated delays to the hearing indicated politicisation; I kind of know what you're getting at—that they kept stalling while
pressure was brought to bear on witnesses, for example—but it could be more explicit.
Regarding parenthesised ellipses, check with
WP:... to ensure MOS compliance, specifically, are they mak[ing] clear that it isn't original to the material being quoted?
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.