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"Atrociraptor is most closely related to Deinonychus." Based on whose opinion? Atrociraptor is classified in the Dromaeosaurinae; Deinonychus belongs to the Velociraptorinae. Perhaps somebody got their names mixed up, and this was meant to state that it is most closely related to Dromaeosaurus?
75.210.173.183 (
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Has Atrociraptor actually been referred to dromaeosaurinae, or was that done as original research based on its relationship to Deinonychus (which has tended to jump between subfamilies is studies recently)?
Dinoguy2 (
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Can't find hardly anything online that talks about Atrociraptor, at least not its taxonomic status. DinoData claims it is velociraptorine but I'm a little leery of using DD as a definitive source with nothing to back it up... although, if it is in fact most closely related to Deinonychus then the taxobox needs to be revised--obviously it cannot be most closely related to something in an entirely different family.
75.211.103.38 (
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The thing is, Deinoncyhus has variously been referred to both dromaeosaurinae and velociraptorinae. So even if somebody assigned Atociraptor to dromaeosaurinae, they'd probably place Deinonychus there as well. Subfamily classification is extremely variable, especially in dromaeosaurs, which seem to shuffle subfamilies with every new study. I think it's not a great idea to list subfamilies in the taxoboxes at all, but somebody went around adding them a few months ago. I've removed it from here, barring a published referral. Also, you keep referring to "family"--make sure you're not confused on this point--both Atrociraptor and Deinoncychus are most certainly dromaeosaurids, just not necessarily dromaeosaurines.
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"Atrociraptor is most closely related to Deinonychus." Based on whose opinion? Atrociraptor is classified in the Dromaeosaurinae; Deinonychus belongs to the Velociraptorinae. Perhaps somebody got their names mixed up, and this was meant to state that it is most closely related to Dromaeosaurus?
75.210.173.183 (
talk) 08:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Has Atrociraptor actually been referred to dromaeosaurinae, or was that done as original research based on its relationship to Deinonychus (which has tended to jump between subfamilies is studies recently)?
Dinoguy2 (
talk) 00:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Can't find hardly anything online that talks about Atrociraptor, at least not its taxonomic status. DinoData claims it is velociraptorine but I'm a little leery of using DD as a definitive source with nothing to back it up... although, if it is in fact most closely related to Deinonychus then the taxobox needs to be revised--obviously it cannot be most closely related to something in an entirely different family.
75.211.103.38 (
talk) 05:33, 14 September 2008 (UTC)reply
The thing is, Deinoncyhus has variously been referred to both dromaeosaurinae and velociraptorinae. So even if somebody assigned Atociraptor to dromaeosaurinae, they'd probably place Deinonychus there as well. Subfamily classification is extremely variable, especially in dromaeosaurs, which seem to shuffle subfamilies with every new study. I think it's not a great idea to list subfamilies in the taxoboxes at all, but somebody went around adding them a few months ago. I've removed it from here, barring a published referral. Also, you keep referring to "family"--make sure you're not confused on this point--both Atrociraptor and Deinoncychus are most certainly dromaeosaurids, just not necessarily dromaeosaurines.
Dinoguy2 (
talk) 07:59, 14 September 2008 (UTC)reply