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The Scope of this article is to examine in detail the background, execution and investigation of the hand chopping incident in Kerala. It is different from the existing article on T J Joseph. Later on that article can be linked to this Rick jens ( talk) 02:13, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
1-Professor hand chopped off Kerala--About 52,300 results (0.22 seconds)-- 2-Professor attacked in Kerala-About 41,200 results (0.20 seconds) -- These are just some of the combination of search results. As i mentioned the scope of this article is on the background, execution and investigation of the hand chopping incident in Kerala. I have redirected the T J Joseph article to this one.If the title need to be changed lets discuss about that. Thanks Rick jens ( talk) 02:56, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
As the originial author of the article entitled "T J Joseph", I consider the best title with the present content is something without the name of the person involved. Rather, as suggested, Attack on a professor in Kerala or something similar such as Handchopping incident in kerala appears to be more encyclopediac.-- Peopledowhattheyoughttodo ( talk) 01:28, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Rick jens ( talk) 14:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
The article has been written from a neutral point of view, representing fairly, proportionately, and as far as possible without bias. All significant views that have been published by reliable sources in the local media has also been added.
The Editer who added POV didnot mention the reasons in the talk page. I have removed the POV. I have made some changes based on the edits he has done. Please discuss Rick jens ( talk) 14:00, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
-- Sodabottle ( talk) 15:49, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Do you know what is in my bag ? Follow the basic etiquettes while editing in Wikipedia.
It’s a Christian minority institute and that does has a point as the scope of the article are the events spread around few months happened after an alleged blasphemy.
Can you menion the other uncited claims which made you to add the POV ? The editers can look at it and improve the article.
Rick jens ( talk) 19:37, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
The book Thirakkadhayude reethishasthram'(തിരക്കഥയുടെ രീതിശാസ്ത്രം) not written by P.T. Kunjumuhammed. It was authored by P.M. Binukumar. Here is the link from Bhasha institute website's catalog page 19-- Vicharam ( talk) 14:19, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
This is an initiative to clean the articles. In order to wikify and to make the articles neutral, few edits are being done. Also, as a general Wiki etiquette, the non-english references are being removed. -- Indiashines ( talk) 07:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
I have reverted back to the original version after the repeated vandalism and removal of sections on the Muslim radical organizations by some editors such as Indiashines in the pretext of clean up.
Also removed the neutrality check Rick jens ( talk) 18:27, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
I have added a speedy deletion on this article after "taliban style" for nonsense, and one more thing is that the honorable home minister kodiary balakrishnan said that there is no such courts named Darul Huda exists in parallel .
What a wonderful editing by some of the members of Muslim radical outfits in India. They are the terroor and yet sounds like they are the victims. Rick jens ( talk) 15:26, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
State Intelligence Bureau reports termed it the first brutal "Taliban style" attack allegedly executed at the instance of Darul Huda, a Sharia court said to be operational in the model of Islamic courts,[6][dead link] but this was denied by the State government which confirmed there was no information about the existence of such courts but Dar-ul-Qada,[7] an initiative of the All India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB) existed to handle civil disputes related to family and property and no proof existed that they worked on the lines of the "Taliban-model."
I invite editors to evaluate the discussion. No offence, it would be very nice if the opinions are from credible editors. Not by some one employed by Popular Front of India or Jamaat-e-Islami Hind to fork their propaganda in Wikipedia. I am adding some more media reports about the Taliban courts operated by Popular Front of India
1. From India’s premier news agency- Press Trust of India- [1]:: - Kerala Government today announced a probe into the activities of religious committees run by radical outfit, PFI, whose activists allegedly chopped off the hand of a college lecturer recently.Appropriate legal action would be taken if the Popular Front of India's committees were found to be violating the law, Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan told the assembly.Balakrishnan said it had come to government's notice that certain committees headed by religious authorities by the name 'Dar-ul Khada' were functioning to resolve civil disputes of Muslim community but no complaint had been received that they were passing "Taliban model orders".
As per information, PFI, whose activists are accused of attacking lecturer T J Joseph for preparing a question paper with alleged derogatory reference to Prophet Mohammed, had 20 "feeder organisations", he said. 2. According to Hindustan Times- [2]:: The Kerala government has instituted a probe into the "Taliban-model" Islamist courts that run as a parallel judicial system in the state. The decision follows an attack on a Malayalam lecturer in which his right hand was chopped off — allegedly on the orders of such a court — because he allegedly framed a blasphemous question for a local college exam. Several people arrested for the July 4 attack on the lecturer are members of the radical Muslim outfit People's Front of India (PFI). Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan said the government was aware that panels headed by religious authorities were operating as parallel courts. "Committees like Dar-ul-khuda (God's Court) are quite active in certain parts of the state, but no complaints have been received that they were passing Taliban-model orders," he said. The government will not allow a parallel judicial system." The Taliban is the hardline Islamist group that ruled in Afghanistan a decade ago and is still fighting for establishing its rule in that country. CM V S Achuthanandan had recently said the PFI was planning to 'Islamise' the state. At least six such groups reportedly operate as counselling centres in the state's Malabar region, once considered the base of the banned SIMI.They regularly change names to evade monitoring. Some have benevolent-sounding names such as Karuna Foundation (meaning Compassion Foundation) or Samskara Vedi (an organisation that imparts morals and values).The police said they had found several incriminating documents from the office of Karuna Foundation recently
3. According to Economic Times- [3]:: Kerala is looking into the veracity of media reports suggesting that Taliban style courts are functioning in the state, Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan told the state assembly on Tuesday. He said this in response to a submission raised by Congress legislator Aryadan Mohammed. Mohammed said the first such report of a Taliban style court appeared in Veekshenam daily this month and was followed by a series of reports in Mathrubhoomi daily. "The Popular Front of India (PFI) is primarily responsible for such Taliban model courts which I believe are functioning across the state. I will not go back on my fight against such forces, neither will my party. Organisations such as PFI, NDF (National Development Front), PDP (Peoples Democratic Party) and Jamat-e-Islami are all one and the same," said Mohammed. Replying to this, Balakrishnan said it was reported that these so called courts handle family issues, boundary disputes and also issues concerning faith. "But the government is yet to receive any complaint about such things. Whatever happens, we will not allow any such thing to happen. It has come to light that under the PFI, there are about 20 feeder organisations functioning and the government is looking into the functioning of the Imam Council also," said Balakrishnan which is said to have 4.According to IBNLive- [4]:: Kerala Government to probe functioning religious courts Thiruvananthapuram, Jul 27 (PTI) Kerala Government today announced a probe into the activities of religious committees run by radical outfit, PFI, whose activists allegedly chopped off the hand of a college lecturer recently. Appropriate legal action would be taken if the Popular Front of India's committees were found to be violating the law, Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan told the assembly. Balakrishnan said it had come to government's notice that certain committees headed by religious authorities by the name 'Dar-ul Khada' were functioning to resolve civil disputes of Muslim community but no complaint had been received that they were passing "Taliban model orders". As per information, PFI, whose activists are accused of attacking lecturer T J Joseph for preparing a question paper with alleged derogatory reference to Prophet Mohammed, had 20 "feeder organisations", he said. The PFI claims that a committee, headed by an Imam Council, to resolve personal disputes of the community was functioning with the recognition of the Muslim Personal Law Board, he said. The Minister was replying to a submission of Aryadan Muhammed (Cong) who sought a ban on the operation of "Taliban model parallel courts" in the state. Advocating strong action against PFI, Muhammed said the government should take serious note of media reports about the functioning of such courts in the state. Muhammed said PFI, National Development Front and PDP of Abdul Naser Madhani belonged to same category of outfits and should be opposed. Madhani was an accused in the 1997 Coimbatore serial bomb blasts case that claimed 58 lives but was acquitted later. He also under the scanner of Karnataka police for suspected involvement in the July 2008 Bangalore serial blasts. Chief Minister V S Achuthanandan had said last week that PFI was aiming at "Islamisation of Kerala" and stood by his remarks in the assembly yesterday.
5. According to Central Chronicle- [5]:: Stating that the government will not allow parallel courts like the 'Darul Khada', a Taliban Model Court, to function in the state, Kerala Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan today informed the State Assembly that the government was looking into reports if such parallel courts were functioning in the state. Replying to a submission, he said the functioning of such courts had not come to the notice of the government till now.Parallel courts and police could not be allowed in democracy, he said.Mr Balakrishnan said there were reports that certain committees under some religious organisations were dealing with personal grievances of the believers. It had also been reported that Taliban Model Court 'Darul Khada' was inaugurated last year in Malapuram district by All India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB) Secretary Maulana Wali Rahman, he said.Mr Balakrishnan said the Popular Front of India had claimed that such courts were under the Imam council, which was under the AIMPLB. The government was seriously looking into all the reports, he added.
Summary- 1) It is under investigation 2) There has been no denial of any link with the existing Taliban courts and hand chopping incident. On the contrary – the issue came in to light due to the hand chopping incident and according to the Kerala Minister it is under investigation. 3) That the hand chopping incident was an execution of an order of a Taliban court in Kerala was reported by most Malayalam dailies. Hence the decision came in Kerala Legislative assembly where the Minister remarked that the court run by a feeder organisation of Popular Front of India is under investigation. 4) Such an important revelation which came in almost all the major dailies should be included in the Wikipedia article. Rick jens ( talk) 14:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
There have been Taliban Mulla style edits to misrepresent the article. The entire article was redrafted to suit the propaganda launched by the Jamaat e Islami Hind newspaper Madhyamam Daily by the editors including Nmkuttiady. Though various links are provided, the matter has been twisted to suit what was printed in the radicals daily Madhyamam Daily Rick jens ( talk) 14:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
The introduction has been changed by these editors as follows, The 2010 hand chopping incident in Kerala occurred on 4 July 2010 at Muvattupuzha in the Kottayam district of Kerala, India.[3] T. J. Joseph, a professor of Malayalam at Newman College, Thodupuzha, a Christian minority institution affiliated to Mahatma Gandhi University [4] had his hand cut off at the wrist for committing blasphemy in an examination question paper set by him. All those arrested so far by the police in the ongoing investigation are activists of the Popular Front of India.[5] State Intelligence Bureau reports termed it the first brutal "Taliban style" attack allegedly executed at the instance of Darul Huda, a Sharia court said to be operational in the model of Islamic courts,[6][dead link] but this was denied by the State government which confirmed there was no information about the existence of such courts but Dar-ul-Qada,[7] an initiative of the All India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB) existed to handle civil disputes related to family and property and no proof existed that they worked on the lines of the "Taliban-model."
---had his hand cut off at the wrist for committing blasphemy in an examination question paper set by him
--- Are these Taliban Mulla editors sharia court decides this ? See the word for committing. Is that according to the Jamaat-e-Islami Hind and Popular Front of India all madman under the son named Muhammad are Prophet Muhammad ? . The petro dinar funded wahabis need some literature sense. To feed the illiterate who read the outfits daily and periodicals the entire matter has been twisted during the controversy and was printed in the radical outfits propaganda literature. Some of the editors including the named editor- Nmkuttiady, twisted the content from these periodicals in the Wikipedia article. Such actions are nothing but vandalism and gross misrepresentations. Rick jens ( talk) 14:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
--- Darul Huda is not an initiative of All India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB). India doesnot have sharia law. According to the cited reports, these courts are operated by a feeder organisation of Popular Front of India and it is clearly mentioned by detailed reports on the response of Kerala Minister. It has been twisted in article. --- The Background and the Attack has been re written as per the materials published by Jamaat-e-Islami Hind and Popular Front of India. Both of them are alleged terror networks under investigation. Rick jens ( talk) 14:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
--- I have also removed the statements added by this editor in the name of radical muslim organisations in Kerala. Most of them like Jamaat-e-Islami Hind, Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind doesnot have mass base and it is nothing but publicity stunt to include remarks about these terror networks in their sister organisations hand chopping activity. --- I have also removed publicity stunt activities of Jamaat-e-Islami Hind, Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind, Popular Front of India, Solidarity and Campus Front and their feeder organisations. --- The article is about 2010 hand chopping incident in Kerala not about the pubclicty stunt by Jamaat-e-Islami Hind, Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind, Popular Front of India, Solidarity and Campus Front and their feeder organisations. Please start a new article titled " Publicity stunt by Muslim radicals in Kerala" if the scope of such an article is with in the goals and objective of Wikipedia Rick jens ( talk) 14:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
full protection. High level of IP vandalism. The Vandalising editors are not responding to the civic requests on their edits. The entire article was misrepresented and changed to the published propaganda materails from some radical organisations. It needs to be full protected to prevent propaganda and vandalism. Rick jens ( talk) 14:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
This document is having a total inbalance in its content. The references are provided not either English or they are mentioned incorrect information. I am pointing out few POVs propaganda information in the first paragraph only. Some expert in this subject need to look into this article and need to re-write the article and As media and goverment declared, there is no evidence of having a court called "Darul-Huda". Koumudi and Mangalam brought this "Exclusive News". But the reality, koumudi says: "Home Minister Balakrishnan said it had come to government's notice that certain committees headed by religious authorities by the name 'Dar-ul Khada' were functioning to resolve civil disputes of Muslim community but no complaint had been received that they were passing "Taliban model orders". This reference is twisted and the author put his POV and author has put his propaganda materials in it. It is noted that user:Rick jens putting a lot of his POVs in this article as his only edit is related to this incident and its lelated allegation. see : [7]. It is suspected that he is a sock puppet of somebody already banned from wikipedia. This need to be also checked -- Indiashines ( talk) 05:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
The Jeevan TV sub editor has written an article in OneIndia portal and he is now apologizing on the writing of article about Talibanism. [10]. So the Talibanism need to be removed from the article. People like him has proved [11] their, right wing approach and they try to make a lobby in media promoting false propaganda to defeat the nation (and also the credibility of Wikipedia). -- Indiashines ( talk) 15:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
There are photos of the dialogue in question, but no English translation. It would be nice for the reader to be able to form his own opinion on the offensiveness of the exam question. The photos are a bit pointless for most non-Indian/non-Malayalam-speaking readers. 77.7.80.135 ( talk) 09:34, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
This article is seems that its an incident not to a group/community rather than a PERSON. And this article is completely describing the investigation and allegations against those who behind this attack.SO this is completely against the Policy of Wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Your_first_article#Things_to_avoid Attacks on a person or organization
Material that violates our biographies of living persons policy or is intended to threaten, defame, or harass its subject or another entity is not permitted. Unsourced negative information, especially in articles about living people, is quickly removed, and attack pages may be deleted immediately.
If we feel to keep this type of article in wikipedia,people should start to edit a new article like "Leg Chopping incident in Kerala / Head Cut incident in Kerala". Because ,there is no importance in this incident in the world community like 9/11. This is a local incident in the corner of the world i.e. Kerala. Also this is not an extra ordinary incident in Kerala or the world,Hand chopping is the usual incident in Kerala because of politic and religion. So my Opinion it should be remove from the Wiki as soon as possible. --Achu 07:47, 20 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fazlu2010 ( talk • contribs)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Assault on T.J. Joseph. GB fan 22:59, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
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The Scope of this article is to examine in detail the background, execution and investigation of the hand chopping incident in Kerala. It is different from the existing article on T J Joseph. Later on that article can be linked to this Rick jens ( talk) 02:13, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
1-Professor hand chopped off Kerala--About 52,300 results (0.22 seconds)-- 2-Professor attacked in Kerala-About 41,200 results (0.20 seconds) -- These are just some of the combination of search results. As i mentioned the scope of this article is on the background, execution and investigation of the hand chopping incident in Kerala. I have redirected the T J Joseph article to this one.If the title need to be changed lets discuss about that. Thanks Rick jens ( talk) 02:56, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
As the originial author of the article entitled "T J Joseph", I consider the best title with the present content is something without the name of the person involved. Rather, as suggested, Attack on a professor in Kerala or something similar such as Handchopping incident in kerala appears to be more encyclopediac.-- Peopledowhattheyoughttodo ( talk) 01:28, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Rick jens ( talk) 14:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
The article has been written from a neutral point of view, representing fairly, proportionately, and as far as possible without bias. All significant views that have been published by reliable sources in the local media has also been added.
The Editer who added POV didnot mention the reasons in the talk page. I have removed the POV. I have made some changes based on the edits he has done. Please discuss Rick jens ( talk) 14:00, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
-- Sodabottle ( talk) 15:49, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Do you know what is in my bag ? Follow the basic etiquettes while editing in Wikipedia.
It’s a Christian minority institute and that does has a point as the scope of the article are the events spread around few months happened after an alleged blasphemy.
Can you menion the other uncited claims which made you to add the POV ? The editers can look at it and improve the article.
Rick jens ( talk) 19:37, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
The book Thirakkadhayude reethishasthram'(തിരക്കഥയുടെ രീതിശാസ്ത്രം) not written by P.T. Kunjumuhammed. It was authored by P.M. Binukumar. Here is the link from Bhasha institute website's catalog page 19-- Vicharam ( talk) 14:19, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
This is an initiative to clean the articles. In order to wikify and to make the articles neutral, few edits are being done. Also, as a general Wiki etiquette, the non-english references are being removed. -- Indiashines ( talk) 07:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
I have reverted back to the original version after the repeated vandalism and removal of sections on the Muslim radical organizations by some editors such as Indiashines in the pretext of clean up.
Also removed the neutrality check Rick jens ( talk) 18:27, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
I have added a speedy deletion on this article after "taliban style" for nonsense, and one more thing is that the honorable home minister kodiary balakrishnan said that there is no such courts named Darul Huda exists in parallel .
What a wonderful editing by some of the members of Muslim radical outfits in India. They are the terroor and yet sounds like they are the victims. Rick jens ( talk) 15:26, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
State Intelligence Bureau reports termed it the first brutal "Taliban style" attack allegedly executed at the instance of Darul Huda, a Sharia court said to be operational in the model of Islamic courts,[6][dead link] but this was denied by the State government which confirmed there was no information about the existence of such courts but Dar-ul-Qada,[7] an initiative of the All India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB) existed to handle civil disputes related to family and property and no proof existed that they worked on the lines of the "Taliban-model."
I invite editors to evaluate the discussion. No offence, it would be very nice if the opinions are from credible editors. Not by some one employed by Popular Front of India or Jamaat-e-Islami Hind to fork their propaganda in Wikipedia. I am adding some more media reports about the Taliban courts operated by Popular Front of India
1. From India’s premier news agency- Press Trust of India- [1]:: - Kerala Government today announced a probe into the activities of religious committees run by radical outfit, PFI, whose activists allegedly chopped off the hand of a college lecturer recently.Appropriate legal action would be taken if the Popular Front of India's committees were found to be violating the law, Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan told the assembly.Balakrishnan said it had come to government's notice that certain committees headed by religious authorities by the name 'Dar-ul Khada' were functioning to resolve civil disputes of Muslim community but no complaint had been received that they were passing "Taliban model orders".
As per information, PFI, whose activists are accused of attacking lecturer T J Joseph for preparing a question paper with alleged derogatory reference to Prophet Mohammed, had 20 "feeder organisations", he said. 2. According to Hindustan Times- [2]:: The Kerala government has instituted a probe into the "Taliban-model" Islamist courts that run as a parallel judicial system in the state. The decision follows an attack on a Malayalam lecturer in which his right hand was chopped off — allegedly on the orders of such a court — because he allegedly framed a blasphemous question for a local college exam. Several people arrested for the July 4 attack on the lecturer are members of the radical Muslim outfit People's Front of India (PFI). Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan said the government was aware that panels headed by religious authorities were operating as parallel courts. "Committees like Dar-ul-khuda (God's Court) are quite active in certain parts of the state, but no complaints have been received that they were passing Taliban-model orders," he said. The government will not allow a parallel judicial system." The Taliban is the hardline Islamist group that ruled in Afghanistan a decade ago and is still fighting for establishing its rule in that country. CM V S Achuthanandan had recently said the PFI was planning to 'Islamise' the state. At least six such groups reportedly operate as counselling centres in the state's Malabar region, once considered the base of the banned SIMI.They regularly change names to evade monitoring. Some have benevolent-sounding names such as Karuna Foundation (meaning Compassion Foundation) or Samskara Vedi (an organisation that imparts morals and values).The police said they had found several incriminating documents from the office of Karuna Foundation recently
3. According to Economic Times- [3]:: Kerala is looking into the veracity of media reports suggesting that Taliban style courts are functioning in the state, Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan told the state assembly on Tuesday. He said this in response to a submission raised by Congress legislator Aryadan Mohammed. Mohammed said the first such report of a Taliban style court appeared in Veekshenam daily this month and was followed by a series of reports in Mathrubhoomi daily. "The Popular Front of India (PFI) is primarily responsible for such Taliban model courts which I believe are functioning across the state. I will not go back on my fight against such forces, neither will my party. Organisations such as PFI, NDF (National Development Front), PDP (Peoples Democratic Party) and Jamat-e-Islami are all one and the same," said Mohammed. Replying to this, Balakrishnan said it was reported that these so called courts handle family issues, boundary disputes and also issues concerning faith. "But the government is yet to receive any complaint about such things. Whatever happens, we will not allow any such thing to happen. It has come to light that under the PFI, there are about 20 feeder organisations functioning and the government is looking into the functioning of the Imam Council also," said Balakrishnan which is said to have 4.According to IBNLive- [4]:: Kerala Government to probe functioning religious courts Thiruvananthapuram, Jul 27 (PTI) Kerala Government today announced a probe into the activities of religious committees run by radical outfit, PFI, whose activists allegedly chopped off the hand of a college lecturer recently. Appropriate legal action would be taken if the Popular Front of India's committees were found to be violating the law, Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan told the assembly. Balakrishnan said it had come to government's notice that certain committees headed by religious authorities by the name 'Dar-ul Khada' were functioning to resolve civil disputes of Muslim community but no complaint had been received that they were passing "Taliban model orders". As per information, PFI, whose activists are accused of attacking lecturer T J Joseph for preparing a question paper with alleged derogatory reference to Prophet Mohammed, had 20 "feeder organisations", he said. The PFI claims that a committee, headed by an Imam Council, to resolve personal disputes of the community was functioning with the recognition of the Muslim Personal Law Board, he said. The Minister was replying to a submission of Aryadan Muhammed (Cong) who sought a ban on the operation of "Taliban model parallel courts" in the state. Advocating strong action against PFI, Muhammed said the government should take serious note of media reports about the functioning of such courts in the state. Muhammed said PFI, National Development Front and PDP of Abdul Naser Madhani belonged to same category of outfits and should be opposed. Madhani was an accused in the 1997 Coimbatore serial bomb blasts case that claimed 58 lives but was acquitted later. He also under the scanner of Karnataka police for suspected involvement in the July 2008 Bangalore serial blasts. Chief Minister V S Achuthanandan had said last week that PFI was aiming at "Islamisation of Kerala" and stood by his remarks in the assembly yesterday.
5. According to Central Chronicle- [5]:: Stating that the government will not allow parallel courts like the 'Darul Khada', a Taliban Model Court, to function in the state, Kerala Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan today informed the State Assembly that the government was looking into reports if such parallel courts were functioning in the state. Replying to a submission, he said the functioning of such courts had not come to the notice of the government till now.Parallel courts and police could not be allowed in democracy, he said.Mr Balakrishnan said there were reports that certain committees under some religious organisations were dealing with personal grievances of the believers. It had also been reported that Taliban Model Court 'Darul Khada' was inaugurated last year in Malapuram district by All India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB) Secretary Maulana Wali Rahman, he said.Mr Balakrishnan said the Popular Front of India had claimed that such courts were under the Imam council, which was under the AIMPLB. The government was seriously looking into all the reports, he added.
Summary- 1) It is under investigation 2) There has been no denial of any link with the existing Taliban courts and hand chopping incident. On the contrary – the issue came in to light due to the hand chopping incident and according to the Kerala Minister it is under investigation. 3) That the hand chopping incident was an execution of an order of a Taliban court in Kerala was reported by most Malayalam dailies. Hence the decision came in Kerala Legislative assembly where the Minister remarked that the court run by a feeder organisation of Popular Front of India is under investigation. 4) Such an important revelation which came in almost all the major dailies should be included in the Wikipedia article. Rick jens ( talk) 14:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
There have been Taliban Mulla style edits to misrepresent the article. The entire article was redrafted to suit the propaganda launched by the Jamaat e Islami Hind newspaper Madhyamam Daily by the editors including Nmkuttiady. Though various links are provided, the matter has been twisted to suit what was printed in the radicals daily Madhyamam Daily Rick jens ( talk) 14:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
The introduction has been changed by these editors as follows, The 2010 hand chopping incident in Kerala occurred on 4 July 2010 at Muvattupuzha in the Kottayam district of Kerala, India.[3] T. J. Joseph, a professor of Malayalam at Newman College, Thodupuzha, a Christian minority institution affiliated to Mahatma Gandhi University [4] had his hand cut off at the wrist for committing blasphemy in an examination question paper set by him. All those arrested so far by the police in the ongoing investigation are activists of the Popular Front of India.[5] State Intelligence Bureau reports termed it the first brutal "Taliban style" attack allegedly executed at the instance of Darul Huda, a Sharia court said to be operational in the model of Islamic courts,[6][dead link] but this was denied by the State government which confirmed there was no information about the existence of such courts but Dar-ul-Qada,[7] an initiative of the All India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB) existed to handle civil disputes related to family and property and no proof existed that they worked on the lines of the "Taliban-model."
---had his hand cut off at the wrist for committing blasphemy in an examination question paper set by him
--- Are these Taliban Mulla editors sharia court decides this ? See the word for committing. Is that according to the Jamaat-e-Islami Hind and Popular Front of India all madman under the son named Muhammad are Prophet Muhammad ? . The petro dinar funded wahabis need some literature sense. To feed the illiterate who read the outfits daily and periodicals the entire matter has been twisted during the controversy and was printed in the radical outfits propaganda literature. Some of the editors including the named editor- Nmkuttiady, twisted the content from these periodicals in the Wikipedia article. Such actions are nothing but vandalism and gross misrepresentations. Rick jens ( talk) 14:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
--- Darul Huda is not an initiative of All India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB). India doesnot have sharia law. According to the cited reports, these courts are operated by a feeder organisation of Popular Front of India and it is clearly mentioned by detailed reports on the response of Kerala Minister. It has been twisted in article. --- The Background and the Attack has been re written as per the materials published by Jamaat-e-Islami Hind and Popular Front of India. Both of them are alleged terror networks under investigation. Rick jens ( talk) 14:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
--- I have also removed the statements added by this editor in the name of radical muslim organisations in Kerala. Most of them like Jamaat-e-Islami Hind, Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind doesnot have mass base and it is nothing but publicity stunt to include remarks about these terror networks in their sister organisations hand chopping activity. --- I have also removed publicity stunt activities of Jamaat-e-Islami Hind, Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind, Popular Front of India, Solidarity and Campus Front and their feeder organisations. --- The article is about 2010 hand chopping incident in Kerala not about the pubclicty stunt by Jamaat-e-Islami Hind, Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind, Popular Front of India, Solidarity and Campus Front and their feeder organisations. Please start a new article titled " Publicity stunt by Muslim radicals in Kerala" if the scope of such an article is with in the goals and objective of Wikipedia Rick jens ( talk) 14:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
full protection. High level of IP vandalism. The Vandalising editors are not responding to the civic requests on their edits. The entire article was misrepresented and changed to the published propaganda materails from some radical organisations. It needs to be full protected to prevent propaganda and vandalism. Rick jens ( talk) 14:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
This document is having a total inbalance in its content. The references are provided not either English or they are mentioned incorrect information. I am pointing out few POVs propaganda information in the first paragraph only. Some expert in this subject need to look into this article and need to re-write the article and As media and goverment declared, there is no evidence of having a court called "Darul-Huda". Koumudi and Mangalam brought this "Exclusive News". But the reality, koumudi says: "Home Minister Balakrishnan said it had come to government's notice that certain committees headed by religious authorities by the name 'Dar-ul Khada' were functioning to resolve civil disputes of Muslim community but no complaint had been received that they were passing "Taliban model orders". This reference is twisted and the author put his POV and author has put his propaganda materials in it. It is noted that user:Rick jens putting a lot of his POVs in this article as his only edit is related to this incident and its lelated allegation. see : [7]. It is suspected that he is a sock puppet of somebody already banned from wikipedia. This need to be also checked -- Indiashines ( talk) 05:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
The Jeevan TV sub editor has written an article in OneIndia portal and he is now apologizing on the writing of article about Talibanism. [10]. So the Talibanism need to be removed from the article. People like him has proved [11] their, right wing approach and they try to make a lobby in media promoting false propaganda to defeat the nation (and also the credibility of Wikipedia). -- Indiashines ( talk) 15:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
There are photos of the dialogue in question, but no English translation. It would be nice for the reader to be able to form his own opinion on the offensiveness of the exam question. The photos are a bit pointless for most non-Indian/non-Malayalam-speaking readers. 77.7.80.135 ( talk) 09:34, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
This article is seems that its an incident not to a group/community rather than a PERSON. And this article is completely describing the investigation and allegations against those who behind this attack.SO this is completely against the Policy of Wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Your_first_article#Things_to_avoid Attacks on a person or organization
Material that violates our biographies of living persons policy or is intended to threaten, defame, or harass its subject or another entity is not permitted. Unsourced negative information, especially in articles about living people, is quickly removed, and attack pages may be deleted immediately.
If we feel to keep this type of article in wikipedia,people should start to edit a new article like "Leg Chopping incident in Kerala / Head Cut incident in Kerala". Because ,there is no importance in this incident in the world community like 9/11. This is a local incident in the corner of the world i.e. Kerala. Also this is not an extra ordinary incident in Kerala or the world,Hand chopping is the usual incident in Kerala because of politic and religion. So my Opinion it should be remove from the Wiki as soon as possible. --Achu 07:47, 20 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fazlu2010 ( talk • contribs)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Assault on T.J. Joseph. GB fan 22:59, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
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Though the table has a transliteration of the Malayalam text, I feel an English translation would help readers understand the controversy. Is the translation in http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9eCyKbDgzwYJ:twocircles.net/2010aug09/plot_divide_kerala_communal_lines.html&strip=1#menu-menumain-2 correct and appropriate? 82.0.78.54 ( talk) 11:52, 13 October 2022 (UTC)