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is this a possible inspiration for eisengard in lord of the rings, if only the name, and if so, should this be included? JRR Tolkien did take a lot of inspiration from norse mythology after all -ross616- ( talk) 00:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Tokerboy, the location and relative positioning of Urd/Asgard is a deeply vexed question in the field of Norse cosmogeny:
In some descriptions one of Yggdrasil's roots extended into Asgard and under it, Urd's well. The gods were said to have court at the well every day riding there "up over Bifrost".
One of the problems with certain descriptions of the cosmology is why would the gods ride up over Bifrost if Urd's well was in Asgard? It seems logical that Urd's well was in the netherworld, that Asgard was in the branches of the world tree, and that the gods rode down Bifrost instead of up. user:sjc
"The walls surrounding Asgard were built by a giant (often mistakenly identified as Hrimthurs), in return for which he was to receive in payment the hand of Freya in marriage and the sun and the moon. This was agreed provided that the work was completed within six months. In order to avoid the payment, Loki lured away Hrimthurs' magic horse, Svadilfari, by transforming himself into a mare and luring the horse away. The job was not completed on time and the gods evaded the payment."
Granted, in 21st century America when people think Asgard, most think of, if anything, the race from Stargate, but this is supposed to be an article about the realm of Norse gods. Nevertheless, over two thirds of this article is about the fictional, clone-race when it shouldn't mention them at all. If one would like to know about Stargate's Asgard, then he or she can do so through the Asgard disambiguation page. I think the sections Asgard in Stargate SG-1 and Asgard in fiction should be completely deleated from this page.
~JC
- Done - User:Kingdon
In the section Popular Culture the sentence referencing the golem from the game Wild Arms 3 was organized... uniquely, so I altered it for ease of reading-- Arynknight 01:27, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Also added a link to this same sentence.-- Arynknight 01:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
There's an unnecessary amount on Wagner in the opening paragraphs. Franknotes 00:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I think that Odin is an acient shamanic figure. He talks in verse, gather inteligence from ravens, has a ship that can be rolled up like a tablecloth ( flying carpet ???? ) and has a possessions in Turkland. Very interesting. kokturks used runic alphabet like the pagan Goths. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.255.159.190 ( talk) 21:10, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Under the section "Other spellings" it says that in Danish and Swedish Asgård and Aasgaard is common. I don't know about Swedish but I doubt it. In Danish a double-a is an old form of the sound å which would make it sound funny in my ears. I'm a native Dane, raised with the stories about the old gods in both school and and media. Now even Hollywood is making their own versions. But I never heard anyone say Aasgaard/Åsgård. Maybe the first double-a was a mistake. In that case you would probably be able to find the spelling Asgaard in older texts but we don't use double-a anymore and I've never ever seen double-a in Swedish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.110.44.130 ( talk) 11:43, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
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Only one in-text cite/references, so Start. With more refs, easily a C and possibly a B. ErikTheBikeMan ( talk) 19:47, 20 September 2008 (UTC) |
Last edited at 19:47, 20 September 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 08:24, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
The suggestion that part or all of the Ragnarök myth as described by Snorri is due to Christian influence should be sourced, and even if sourced, it shouldn't be presented as the only view.-- 94.155.68.202 ( talk) 04:52, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
As part of my academic curriculum, I am required to expand and contribute to any Wikipedia article in the Stub category. I've adhered to the Wikipedia guidelines and standards when contributing t this article. I hope my edits should prove useful and relevant. Please, let me know if you have any feedback or comments. I will be happy to review the relevant sections of the article. :Yours.kkuznets: ( talk) 18:41, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
Currently the page reads:
The way it's worded suggests that it was specifically named that way to evoke notions of orderliness. But, the word also appears in Utgard, supposedly the anti-Asgard, and Mitgard, as well as a slew of real-world locations. It looks like someone is reading way too much into a simple word.__ Gamren ( talk) 18:36, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
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Hi everyone, I rewrote this article a few months back in line with it being a real mess. I now think it is less of a mess. Are you happy with the removing of the request for it to be rewritten? If not, what do you think it needs changing? Ingwina ( talk) 06:58, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 14:50, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
is this a possible inspiration for eisengard in lord of the rings, if only the name, and if so, should this be included? JRR Tolkien did take a lot of inspiration from norse mythology after all -ross616- ( talk) 00:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Tokerboy, the location and relative positioning of Urd/Asgard is a deeply vexed question in the field of Norse cosmogeny:
In some descriptions one of Yggdrasil's roots extended into Asgard and under it, Urd's well. The gods were said to have court at the well every day riding there "up over Bifrost".
One of the problems with certain descriptions of the cosmology is why would the gods ride up over Bifrost if Urd's well was in Asgard? It seems logical that Urd's well was in the netherworld, that Asgard was in the branches of the world tree, and that the gods rode down Bifrost instead of up. user:sjc
"The walls surrounding Asgard were built by a giant (often mistakenly identified as Hrimthurs), in return for which he was to receive in payment the hand of Freya in marriage and the sun and the moon. This was agreed provided that the work was completed within six months. In order to avoid the payment, Loki lured away Hrimthurs' magic horse, Svadilfari, by transforming himself into a mare and luring the horse away. The job was not completed on time and the gods evaded the payment."
Granted, in 21st century America when people think Asgard, most think of, if anything, the race from Stargate, but this is supposed to be an article about the realm of Norse gods. Nevertheless, over two thirds of this article is about the fictional, clone-race when it shouldn't mention them at all. If one would like to know about Stargate's Asgard, then he or she can do so through the Asgard disambiguation page. I think the sections Asgard in Stargate SG-1 and Asgard in fiction should be completely deleated from this page.
~JC
- Done - User:Kingdon
In the section Popular Culture the sentence referencing the golem from the game Wild Arms 3 was organized... uniquely, so I altered it for ease of reading-- Arynknight 01:27, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Also added a link to this same sentence.-- Arynknight 01:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
There's an unnecessary amount on Wagner in the opening paragraphs. Franknotes 00:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I think that Odin is an acient shamanic figure. He talks in verse, gather inteligence from ravens, has a ship that can be rolled up like a tablecloth ( flying carpet ???? ) and has a possessions in Turkland. Very interesting. kokturks used runic alphabet like the pagan Goths. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.255.159.190 ( talk) 21:10, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Under the section "Other spellings" it says that in Danish and Swedish Asgård and Aasgaard is common. I don't know about Swedish but I doubt it. In Danish a double-a is an old form of the sound å which would make it sound funny in my ears. I'm a native Dane, raised with the stories about the old gods in both school and and media. Now even Hollywood is making their own versions. But I never heard anyone say Aasgaard/Åsgård. Maybe the first double-a was a mistake. In that case you would probably be able to find the spelling Asgaard in older texts but we don't use double-a anymore and I've never ever seen double-a in Swedish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.110.44.130 ( talk) 11:43, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
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Only one in-text cite/references, so Start. With more refs, easily a C and possibly a B. ErikTheBikeMan ( talk) 19:47, 20 September 2008 (UTC) |
Last edited at 19:47, 20 September 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 08:24, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
The suggestion that part or all of the Ragnarök myth as described by Snorri is due to Christian influence should be sourced, and even if sourced, it shouldn't be presented as the only view.-- 94.155.68.202 ( talk) 04:52, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
As part of my academic curriculum, I am required to expand and contribute to any Wikipedia article in the Stub category. I've adhered to the Wikipedia guidelines and standards when contributing t this article. I hope my edits should prove useful and relevant. Please, let me know if you have any feedback or comments. I will be happy to review the relevant sections of the article. :Yours.kkuznets: ( talk) 18:41, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
Currently the page reads:
The way it's worded suggests that it was specifically named that way to evoke notions of orderliness. But, the word also appears in Utgard, supposedly the anti-Asgard, and Mitgard, as well as a slew of real-world locations. It looks like someone is reading way too much into a simple word.__ Gamren ( talk) 18:36, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 17 January 2023 and 12 May 2023. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
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article contribs). Peer reviewers:
Jgarcia30911.
— Assignment last updated by Rockethound ( talk) 22:08, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
Hi everyone, I rewrote this article a few months back in line with it being a real mess. I now think it is less of a mess. Are you happy with the removing of the request for it to be rewritten? If not, what do you think it needs changing? Ingwina ( talk) 06:58, 15 May 2023 (UTC)