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In this edit @ Kendall-K1: excised a passage with the edit summary "not what the source says; also WP:SYNTH". They excised the enboldened part of the following sentence: "On September 30, 1961, while serving at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, after a drinking bout where he consumed at least 8 martinis, Jackson fatally shot Rubén López Sabariego, a Cuban worker at Guantanamo, and unsuccessfully attempted to hide his body in a shallow grave."
I request Kendall-K1 return here and explain their concerns in greater detail. In particular, what part of that passage do they think was SYNTH? Are they challenging the number of martinis Jackson drank, prior to the killing? I think if Kendall-K1 had a concern over the specific phrase "drinking bout" he or she should have suggested a different term, rather than excising the whole passage.
How many martinis did Jackson drink that night? GITMO authorities eventually learned of the killing, but no proper inquiry was held. Presumably the bartender(s) that night would have been asked how many he consumed. In the Royal Navy, where officers are allowed to drink in the wardroom, the CO monitors their alcohol consumption. But Jackson's XO, and accomplice, wrote that he and Jackson consumed six martinis each, before he had had enough, and went to bed. He left Jackson at the bar, still drinking.
His XO would describe, later, how a Provost Marshall woke him, and drove him to assist Jackson, who had kept drinking.
The XO gave a long and detailed account, in 1963, as he sought help from his Congressman to be court-martialled for his junior and peripheral role in the killing. He thought it was unfair that Jackson was protected, because he was a former Medal of Honor awardee -- even though the killing was entirely Jackson's fault, while he received a less than honorable discharge, that denied him veteran's benefits, and impaired his ability to find a job.
The XO's account differs markedly from that offered in Idaho Statesman, and I personally found it a lot more credible. In particular the XO describes Jackson confessing to killing Sabariego after he dragged him to the Cuban side of the fence. Jackson had no authority to give Sabariego orders, on Cuban soil; he had no authority to carry a weapon, on Cuban soil; he didn't even have any authority to be on Cuban soil.
Note, the article had correctly said 6 martinis -- the number recorded in the Lipman reference, until five days before Kendall-K1 excised the passage, claiming it was inaccurate. Geo Swan ( talk) 09:18, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
The Guantanamo section currently reads
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In this edit @ Kendall-K1: excised a passage with the edit summary "not what the source says; also WP:SYNTH". They excised the enboldened part of the following sentence: "On September 30, 1961, while serving at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, after a drinking bout where he consumed at least 8 martinis, Jackson fatally shot Rubén López Sabariego, a Cuban worker at Guantanamo, and unsuccessfully attempted to hide his body in a shallow grave."
I request Kendall-K1 return here and explain their concerns in greater detail. In particular, what part of that passage do they think was SYNTH? Are they challenging the number of martinis Jackson drank, prior to the killing? I think if Kendall-K1 had a concern over the specific phrase "drinking bout" he or she should have suggested a different term, rather than excising the whole passage.
How many martinis did Jackson drink that night? GITMO authorities eventually learned of the killing, but no proper inquiry was held. Presumably the bartender(s) that night would have been asked how many he consumed. In the Royal Navy, where officers are allowed to drink in the wardroom, the CO monitors their alcohol consumption. But Jackson's XO, and accomplice, wrote that he and Jackson consumed six martinis each, before he had had enough, and went to bed. He left Jackson at the bar, still drinking.
His XO would describe, later, how a Provost Marshall woke him, and drove him to assist Jackson, who had kept drinking.
The XO gave a long and detailed account, in 1963, as he sought help from his Congressman to be court-martialled for his junior and peripheral role in the killing. He thought it was unfair that Jackson was protected, because he was a former Medal of Honor awardee -- even though the killing was entirely Jackson's fault, while he received a less than honorable discharge, that denied him veteran's benefits, and impaired his ability to find a job.
The XO's account differs markedly from that offered in Idaho Statesman, and I personally found it a lot more credible. In particular the XO describes Jackson confessing to killing Sabariego after he dragged him to the Cuban side of the fence. Jackson had no authority to give Sabariego orders, on Cuban soil; he had no authority to carry a weapon, on Cuban soil; he didn't even have any authority to be on Cuban soil.
Note, the article had correctly said 6 martinis -- the number recorded in the Lipman reference, until five days before Kendall-K1 excised the passage, claiming it was inaccurate. Geo Swan ( talk) 09:18, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
The Guantanamo section currently reads
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