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Any objections to the removal of the unsourced line ..."was last seen at Salina Cruz, Mexico in 1918 and most likely drowned in the Pacific Ocean off the coast of Mexico in November 1918"? 208.76.82.4 ( talk) 06:04, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
The article most probably should have been placed in Uncyclopedia rather than Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.213.65.166 ( talk) 10:44, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
The article says Cravan became the heavyweight champion of France without having to fight a single match. Boxing was becoming fashionable at the time, especially in Paris, but Cravan's creditable position as a champ is very doubtful. From what I've read, he proclaimed himself "European champion" for a single match against Jack Johnson during the war - and of course he was knocked out cold without any trouble. Johnson refers to this match in his autobiography and recalls that it was a quickie. 73.36.62.119 ( talk) 16:40, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
It seems the idea of Cravan and his friends in arranging the match was to sort of state "you can be anything that you want to be" in much the same way as some rockers and rappers do today: if you claim you're a boxing champ then you are, at least for now. Cravan's general attitudes and style clearly prefigure rock showmanship. Does anyone have any references that show he had ever been recognized as a title holder, or even done serious matches? Strausszek ( talk) 20:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
His parents were British, and he feared being drafted by the British during the first WW.-- Kjalarr ( talk) 13:19, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
This article reeks of originally researched hagiography. Anyone up for a bit of editing? 73.36.62.119 ( talk) 16:40, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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Any objections to the removal of the unsourced line ..."was last seen at Salina Cruz, Mexico in 1918 and most likely drowned in the Pacific Ocean off the coast of Mexico in November 1918"? 208.76.82.4 ( talk) 06:04, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
The article most probably should have been placed in Uncyclopedia rather than Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.213.65.166 ( talk) 10:44, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
The article says Cravan became the heavyweight champion of France without having to fight a single match. Boxing was becoming fashionable at the time, especially in Paris, but Cravan's creditable position as a champ is very doubtful. From what I've read, he proclaimed himself "European champion" for a single match against Jack Johnson during the war - and of course he was knocked out cold without any trouble. Johnson refers to this match in his autobiography and recalls that it was a quickie. 73.36.62.119 ( talk) 16:40, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
It seems the idea of Cravan and his friends in arranging the match was to sort of state "you can be anything that you want to be" in much the same way as some rockers and rappers do today: if you claim you're a boxing champ then you are, at least for now. Cravan's general attitudes and style clearly prefigure rock showmanship. Does anyone have any references that show he had ever been recognized as a title holder, or even done serious matches? Strausszek ( talk) 20:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
His parents were British, and he feared being drafted by the British during the first WW.-- Kjalarr ( talk) 13:19, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
This article reeks of originally researched hagiography. Anyone up for a bit of editing? 73.36.62.119 ( talk) 16:40, 10 May 2021 (UTC)